Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-11 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2015-01-10 at 13:03 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: On 1/10/2015 12:56 PM, F. Mendez wrote: We need that same with IPv6 since we have a /48 and we need to have all IPv6s available for usage. Do you realize that a ipv6 /48 is a septillion IP addresses? thats

Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/11/2015 01:16 AM, Jason S. Evans wrote: On 2015-01-10 23:31, Robert Nichols wrote: On 01/10/2015 07:39 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: Anyone else seeing this? This is happening on a straight Desktop install of CentOS 6.6 fully updated. I have made no changes other than installing Thunderbird.

Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/11/2015 10:08 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Robert Nichols rnicholsnos...@comcast.net wrote: On 01/11/2015 01:42 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: Are you referring to this thread by any chance? http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2014-December/148445.html The

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Sven Kieske
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.01.2015 03:42, James B. Byrne wrote: What does systemd buy the enterprise that sysinit did not provide? Well (re)starting services in a reliable way? Ensuring that services are up and running? About which sysinit are you talking btw? The

Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/11/2015 01:42 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Mark LaPierre marklap...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/10/15 20:39, Robert Nichols wrote: Anyone else seeing this? This is happening on a straight Desktop install of CentOS 6.6 fully updated. I have made no changes other than

Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-11 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Robert Nichols rnicholsnos...@comcast.net wrote: On 01/11/2015 01:42 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: Are you referring to this thread by any chance? http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2014-December/148445.html The upstream bugzilla referenced in there is now

Re: [CentOS] Help with IPv6 /48 block

2015-01-11 Thread Mike McCarthy, W1NR
The normal usage for a /48 block is to divide it into /64 sub-networks and use DHCP to issue addresses to each subnet from the corresponding /64 segment. I would recommend taking the IPv6 certification course from Hurricane Electric at https://ipv6.he.net/certification/ as a start. Mike

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 01/11/2015 01:04 PM, Sven Kieske wrote: On 11.01.2015 19:05, Valeri Galtsev wrote: That sounds like you have collected and counted votes pro and against systemd. How could it sound like I collected votes? I don't care about votes when it comes to technical superiority. As far as

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Always Learning
On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 20:04 +0100, Sven Kieske wrote to Valeri Galtsev I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any of the design goals of systemd and any of the shortcomings of old init systems. Design goals ? Compatibility with and/or minimum disruption to existing

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/11/2015 03:02 PM, Always Learning wrote: On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 20:04 +0100, Sven Kieske wrote to Valeri Galtsev I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any of the design goals of systemd and any of the shortcomings of old init systems. Design goals ?

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 11, 2015 2:05 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/11/2015 03:02 PM, Always Learning wrote: On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 20:04 +0100, Sven Kieske wrote to Valeri Galtsev I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research any of the design goals of systemd and any of

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/11/2015 03:09 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 2:05 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/11/2015 03:02 PM, Always Learning wrote: On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 20:04 +0100, Sven Kieske wrote to Valeri Galtsev I can't take this serious as it seems you didn't research

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 11, 2015 11:22 am, Sven Kieske wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.01.2015 03:42, James B. Byrne wrote: What does systemd buy the enterprise that sysinit did not provide? Well (re)starting services in a reliable way? Ensuring that services are up and

Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 11, 2015 10:08 am, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:21 AM, Robert Nichols rnicholsnos...@comcast.net wrote: On 01/11/2015 01:42 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: Are you referring to this thread by any chance?

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Sven Kieske
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11.01.2015 19:05, Valeri Galtsev wrote: That sounds like you have collected and counted votes pro and against systemd. How could it sound like I collected votes? I don't care about votes when it comes to technical superiority. As far as

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote: You guys can't just ignore the advantages of systemd and even ignore the points like they don't exist. Anyone who already has 'enterprise' software already running on a distribution without systemd (e.g. any earlier

Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-11 Thread Bill Maltby (C4B)
On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 19:42 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 07:07:38PM -0500, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: snip Well, that's the limit of my offerings. I'm still trying to find the thing I used back in C5(?) that raised the panels when the mouse hovered over it for X

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-01-11, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Indeed. Or another system altogether (sihg). I'm just extending your thought half a step farther ;-) Or going even farther, if you like CentOS but not systemd, do the work to get CentOS working without it. Unhappy Debian users are

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: PS I guess I just mention it. I'm quite happy about CentOS (or RedHat if I look back). One day I realized how happy I am that I chose RedHat way back, - that was when all Debian (and its clones like Ubuntu,...) admins were

Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-11 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 05:12:48PM -0500, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 19:42 -0500, Fred Smith wrote: On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 07:07:38PM -0500, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: snip Well, that's the limit of my offerings. I'm still trying to find the thing I used back in

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 11, 2015 5:16 pm, Keith Keller wrote: On 2015-01-11, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Indeed. Or another system altogether (sihg). I'm just extending your thought half a step farther ;-) Or going even farther, if you like CentOS but not systemd, do the work

Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/11/2015 04:19 PM, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 21:02 -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: I presume you're talking about panels with Autohide set. If you have the GUI gconf-editor installed, it's under apps/panel/global/panel_show_delay. You can also set it from the command

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 01/11/2015 08:50 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/11/2015 09:38 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 8:29 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/11/2015 09:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith Keller wrote: On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev

Re: [CentOS] logrotate script not working

2015-01-11 Thread SilverTip257
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, Got a quick question and I hope this is an easy one! In my /etc/logrotate.conf file I have the following entry: # rotate all of the apache logs -- we'll rotate them here /var/log/mysqld.log { weekly

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/11/2015 09:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith Keller wrote: On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: PS I guess I just mention it. I'm quite happy about CentOS (or RedHat if I look back). One day I realized how happy I am that I

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/11/2015 09:38 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 8:29 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/11/2015 09:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith Keller wrote: On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: PS I guess I just

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith Keller wrote: On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: PS I guess I just mention it. I'm quite happy about CentOS (or RedHat if I look back). One day I realized how happy I am that I chose RedHat way back, - that was when all

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Always Learning
On Sun, 2015-01-11 at 17:00 -0500, Jonathan Billings wrote: I know conspiracy theories are fun but your argument is simply absurd and insulting. At least try to assemble a convincing argument other than ad hominem and change = bad. Disruption = BAD Gentle change / gradual change = GOOD

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 11, 2015 8:29 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/11/2015 09:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith Keller wrote: On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: PS I guess I just mention it. I'm quite happy about CentOS (or

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 08:02:26PM +, Always Learning wrote: Design goals ? Compatibility with and/or minimum disruption to existing systems ? It was arrogant change with absolutely no regard for the existing Centos/RHEL users. That *is* a strange design goal (or 'objective' in

Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-11 Thread Bill Maltby (C4B)
On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 21:02 -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: On 01/09/2015 06:07 PM, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: I'm still trying to find the thing I used back in C5(?) that raised the panels when the mouse hovered over it for X seconds. With C6 I can't find it anymore and it switches way too

Re: [CentOS] Thunderbird randomly segfaults at startup

2015-01-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 01/11/2015 12:13 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: Oh, boy. We do seem to have to treat Linux like Windows these days and _reboot_ after any update, not only kernel or glibc update. So much for Unix-like, sigh ;-( When you are trying to track down unexplained and only semi-repeatable behavior, you

Re: [CentOS] C-6, Gnome question

2015-01-11 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 07:49:02PM -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: On 01/11/2015 04:19 PM, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote: On Fri, 2015-01-09 at 21:02 -0600, Robert Nichols wrote: I presume you're talking about panels with Autohide set. If you have the GUI gconf-editor installed, it's under

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 01/11/2015 10:25 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 01/11/2015 08:50 PM, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/11/2015 09:38 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 8:29 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 01/11/2015 09:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith

Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki navibar Newsletter reference

2015-01-11 Thread Fabian Arrotin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/01/15 02:25, PatrickD Garvey wrote: Every wiki page contains a link to http://wiki.centos.org/Newsletter/Latest in the navibar at the top and bottom of the page. Currently that redirects to http://wiki.centos.org/Newsletter/1005 which is

Re: [CentOS] Zone file not written to slave DNS server

2015-01-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/11/2015 9:28 PM, Emmett Culley wrote: I have mostly succeeded in getting master and slave DNS servers operational. Mostly, because the zone file is not written when a zone is updated on the master server when the notify and transfer process happens. The slave DNS server gets the changes

[CentOS] Zone file not written to slave DNS server

2015-01-11 Thread Emmett Culley
I have mostly succeeded in getting master and slave DNS servers operational. Mostly, because the zone file is not written when a zone is updated on the master server when the notify and transfer process happens. The slave DNS server gets the changes to the modified zone, but the slave zone