[CentOS] An odd X question

2015-06-25 Thread m . roth
I've got a headless server running CentOS 7. I've got a user who wants to run some graphical software on it, and view using x forwarding. What I don't have clear is how to set this up. I've just installed xorg-x11-server-[Xorg, common]. I assume I need to run X, but I don't see running this in

Re: [CentOS] An odd X question

2015-06-25 Thread Stuart Barkley
On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 at 15:55 -, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I've got a headless server running CentOS 7. I've got a user who wants to run some graphical software on it, and view using x forwarding. What I don't have clear is how to set this up. I've just installed xorg-x11-server-[Xorg,

Re: [CentOS] An odd X question

2015-06-25 Thread Pete Geenhuizen
On 06/25/15 15:55, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I've got a headless server running CentOS 7. I've got a user who wants to run some graphical software on it, and view using x forwarding. What I don't have clear is how to set this up. I've just installed xorg-x11-server-[Xorg, common]. I assume I

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2015:1185 Moderate CentOS 6 nss-util Security Update

2015-06-25 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2015:1185 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-1185.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386:

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2015:1185 Moderate CentOS 7 nss-util Security Update

2015-06-25 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2015:1185 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-1185.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2015:1185 Moderate CentOS 7 nss Security Update

2015-06-25 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2015:1185 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-1185.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2015:1185 Moderate CentOS 6 nss Security Update

2015-06-25 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2015:1185 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2015-1185.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386:

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 124, Issue 13

2015-06-25 Thread centos-announce-request
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2015:1180 CentOS 6 kdebase-workspace BugFix Update

2015-06-25 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2015:1180 Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2015-1180.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) i386:

[CentOS] Trying to update a CentOS 7.1 docker image, getting errors on yum update regarding iputils

2015-06-25 Thread Kenneth Wolcott
Hi All; Is there a corrupt iputils rpm located on one or more of the CentOS update file servers? Here's an excerpt of the output of my yum update -y command: Updating : iputils-20121221-6.el7_1.1.x86_64 17/44Error unpacking rpm package iputils-20121221-6.el7_1.1.x86_64 error:

[CentOS] loading centos on a Sun Gen opereron x86

2015-06-25 Thread Dan Hyatt
I am trying to load centos on a gen opteron x86 but since the boxes are out of support, I am unable to find firmware for it. Any suggestions on where I might find the drivers? Thanks, Dan ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Lamar Owen
On 06/25/2015 01:20 PM, Chris Adams wrote: ...It's basically a way to assemble one arbitrary set of block devices and then divide them into another arbitrary set of block devices, but now separate from the underlying physical structure. Regular partitions have various limitations (one big

Re: [CentOS] /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Stuart Barkley
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 at 09:27 -, Robert Heller wrote: Another advantage of having /boot on its own partition is supporting multiple linux flavors that is, it is possible to 'share' /boot between CentOS, Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, etc. if one wants to, although it is really easier to pick one

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Lamar Owen
On 06/23/2015 01:54 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: So the story ended up with lots of people in upgrading griefs purely because they couldn't resize the separate /boot partition, and it was separate because LVM was present, and LVM was present with the goal of making partition resizing easy! A

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Jason Warr
On 6/24/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck Campbell wrote: Is there an easy to follow howto for normal LVM administration tasks. I get tired of googling every-time I have to do something I don't remember how to do regarding LVM, so I usually just don't bother with it at all. I believe it has some benefit

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:03:18 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Wed, June 24, 2015 16:11, Chuck Campbell wrote: Is there an easy to follow howto for normal LVM administration tasks. I get tired of googling every-time I have to do something I don't remember how to

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread James B. Byrne
On Wed, June 24, 2015 16:11, Chuck Campbell wrote: Is there an easy to follow howto for normal LVM administration tasks. I get tired of googling every-time I have to do something I don't remember how to do regarding LVM, so I usually just don't bother with it at all. I believe it has some

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread m . roth
James B. Byrne wrote: On Wed, June 24, 2015 16:11, Chuck Campbell wrote: Is there an easy to follow howto for normal LVM administration tasks. I get tired of googling every-time I have to do something I don't remember how to do regarding LVM, so I usually just don't bother with it at all.

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Steve Clark
On 06/25/2015 11:03 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: On Wed, June 24, 2015 16:11, Chuck Campbell wrote: Is there an easy to follow howto for normal LVM administration tasks. I get tired of googling every-time I have to do something I don't remember how to do regarding LVM, so I usually just don't

Re: [CentOS-es] Vpn pptpd

2015-06-25 Thread Javier Aquino
Hola César, Para una VPN site-to-site te recomiendo OpenVPN o LibreSWan. En mi caso, tengo una vpn con LibreSWAN entre mi oficina y otras 10 en diferentes paises y nunca he tenido inconvenientes salvo por problemas con el internet. Saludos y éxitos en tu proyecto. *JAVIER AQUINO* Jefe de TI

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Tue, 2015-06-23 at 11:15 -0500, Jason Warr wrote: On 6/23/2015 10:33 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Inside / (which is mostly always ext4), 100% of the time. :-) That said, I prefer virtual machines over multiboot environments, and I absolutely despise LVM --- that cursed thing is never

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread m . roth
Robert Heller wrote: At Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:03:18 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Wed, June 24, 2015 16:11, Chuck Campbell wrote: Is there an easy to follow howto for normal LVM administration tasks. I get tired of googling every-time I have to do something I don't

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Adam Tauno Williams awill...@whitemice.org said: There may be numerous commands... but isn't it pretty obvious what each one of them do? Often lvtabtab is plenty of hinting to get to the right thing. And each of the commands uses the same syntax for options. The key thing

[CentOS-es] Vpn pptpd

2015-06-25 Thread César Martinez
Saludos amigos listeros, acudo a ustedes con una consulta, quiero implementar una VPn con pptp entre dos servidores Linux para unir dos oficinas distantes, cada una tiene un proveedor de internet diferente y van a tener un servidor Linux centos con una ip publica fija , he usado pptpd pero

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2015-06-25 at 11:50 -0400, Robert Heller wrote: At Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:03:18 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote:HA! You only really need to learn *one* command: the man command. The man provides 'enlightenment' for all other commands: man vgdisplay man lvdisplay

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:49:57AM -0500, Jason Warr wrote: On 6/24/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck Campbell wrote: Is there an easy to follow howto for normal LVM administration tasks. I get tired of googling every-time I have to do something I don't remember how to do regarding LVM, so I usually

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, June 25, 2015 11:59 am, Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:49:57AM -0500, Jason Warr wrote: On 6/24/2015 3:11 PM, Chuck Campbell wrote: Is there an easy to follow howto for normal LVM administration tasks. I get tired of googling every-time I have to do something I

[CentOS] /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Chris Murphy
Timothy Murphy gayleard at eircom.net Tue Jun 23 12:49:08 UTC 2015 Do most people today have /boot on a separate partition, or do they (you) have it on the / partition ? Different distros have different defaults. There's no actual right or wrong here. Pretty much anything you can think of can

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread John R Pierce
On 6/25/2015 8:50 AM, Robert Heller wrote: man vgdisplay man lvdisplay man lvcreate man lvextend man lvresize man lvreduce man lvremove man e2fsck man resize2fs man xfs_growfs -- john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] rsyncing directories - sanity check

2015-06-25 Thread Tim Dunphy
Have you considered just resizing the volumes? That'd probably be my preference. But in my role at this company I don't have the direct access to do that. I'd probably have to open up a ticket to another department and have it done when 'they get around to it'. In say 3 or 4 weeks. On my own

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:18:04 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: Robert Heller wrote: At Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:03:18 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Wed, June 24, 2015 16:11, Chuck Campbell wrote: Is there an easy to follow howto for normal LVM

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread m . roth
John R Pierce wrote: On 6/25/2015 11:12 AM, James A. Peltier wrote: You forgot man this opinion thread is getting really long No manual entry for this opinion thread is getting really long That's obviously not the case: it's *all* manual entry of text g mark

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | On 6/25/2015 8:50 AM, Robert Heller wrote: | man vgdisplay | man lvdisplay | man lvcreate | man lvextend | man lvresize | man lvreduce | man lvremove | man e2fsck | man resize2fs | | man xfs_growfs You forgot man this opinion thread is getting really long

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:05:13PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, June 25, 2015 11:59 am, Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:49:57AM -0500, Jason Warr wrote: AFAIK, your page exists forever. This is how I first learned LVM: from your page. (Not that I use LVM much,

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, June 25, 2015 12:18 pm, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Robert Heller wrote: At Thu, 25 Jun 2015 11:03:18 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Wed, June 24, 2015 16:11, Chuck Campbell wrote: Is there an easy to follow howto for normal LVM administration tasks. I get

Re: [CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread John R Pierce
On 6/25/2015 11:12 AM, James A. Peltier wrote: You forgot man this opinion thread is getting really long No manual entry for this opinion thread is getting really long -- john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz ___ CentOS mailing list

[CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Chris Murphy
Gordon Messmer gordon.messmer at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 01:42:13 UTC 2015 I wondered the same thing, especially in the context of someone who prefers virtual machines. LV-backed VMs have *dramatically* better disk performance than file-backed VMs. I did a bunch of testing of Raw, qcow2, and

[CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Chris Murphy
Mike - st257 silvertip257 at gmail.com Tue Jun 23 16:40:47 UTC 2015 On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Jason Warr jason at warr.net wrote: I'm curious what has made some people hate LVM so much. I have been using it for years on thousands of No clue. My experiences with LVM have been

Re: [CentOS] An odd X question

2015-06-25 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thu, 25 Jun 2015 15:55:41 -0400 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: mark and why is it called xorg-x11-server, when in X terminology, it's the client?* * Which I always thought was bass-ackward, but... You should think of it this way: the program that wants something drawn on the screen is a

[CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Chris Murphy
Chris Adams linux at cmadams.net Wed Jun 24 19:06:19 UTC 2015 Btrfs may eventually obsolete a lot of uses of LVM, but that's down the road. LVM is the emacs of storage. It'll be here forever. Btrfs doesn't export (virtual) block devices like LVM can, so it can't be a backing for say iSCSI. And

[CentOS] LVM hatred, was Re: /boot on a separate partition?

2015-06-25 Thread Chris Murphy
Chris Adams linux at cmadams.net Wed Jun 24 13:14:34 UTC 2015 There are plenty of people that have documented the performance differences, just Google it. This is consistent with what I've experienced. Minimal difference. http://web-docs.gsi.de/~tstibor/iozone/qcow.vs.lvm/ -- Chris Murphy

Re: [CentOS] rsyncing directories - sanity check

2015-06-25 Thread Alexandru Chiscan
Hello Tim, On 06/24/2015 07:42 PM, Tim Dunphy wrote: rsync: writefd_unbuffered failed to write 4 bytes to socket [sender]: Broken pipe (32) rsync: write failed on /opt/var/log/lastlog: No space left on device (28) lastlog is a VERY large SPARSE file and when you rsync it it looses the