Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread ken
On 01/23/2016 06:20 PM, Alice Wonder wrote: Sometimes the direction of UI development in gnome really angers me. For example, when selecting a font for the gedit text editor - there is no way to ask it to only show monospace fonts. It's a fricken text editor, that should be the default -

Re: [CentOS] Intel Xorg driver for Intel HD graphics

2016-01-24 Thread Jerry Geis
> i915.preliminary_hw_support=1 Adding this to the boot - does not make it work on straight 7.2 I saw information about this - but it is mentioned on the page I included that this was no longer needed with the files listed in the link. The kernel 4.4 installs and runs fine on the NUC5C. Its

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Jan 24, 2016, at 6:40 PM, Peter Duffy wrote: > The thing which always gets me about systemd is not the thing itself, > but the way it was rolled out. When I first installed Red Hat 7, if a > window had appeared telling me about systemd and asking me if I wanted > to use

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Alice Wonder
On 01/24/2016 06:37 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: Why? Why is it automatic that a text editor should be automatically monospace? (Sure, I use gedit with a monospace font, but that doesn't mean it's not useful with a proportional font). Because text editors are used to edit plain text files where

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Lamar Owen
On 01/23/2016 06:20 PM, Alice Wonder wrote: Sometimes the direction of UI development in gnome really angers me. I'll have to be one who has to say that I really am not bothered by GNOME 3. It is better out of the box than GNOME 2 ever was, at least in my opinion, especially that

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Micky
> Seriously, who is in charge with the UI design in gnome? > > Whoever it is needs to be fired. > > /rant > Most of them were already fired or left cause of under-funding. Like other OSS projects, they are severely understaffed. ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread John Hodrien
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016, Mark LaPierre wrote: I'm forced to use MS Windows 7 at work. They have rolled in so much smart phone/tablet stuff that it makes the desktop even more of a pain to use than Windows XP was. Examples include, you can have your applications any color you want as long as it's

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Mike Williams
I used gnome for years. Until gnome 3. It struck me a huge step in the wrong direction, and made me have to fish around to do things that used to be easy. I've used mate, xfce, and kde since then, all of which I find more user friendly. Gnome devs seem to think that they are empowered to tell

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 24.01.2016 um 00:32 schrieb Yamaban : > On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 00:20, Alice Wonder wrote: > >> Sometimes the direction of UI development in gnome really angers me. >> >> For example, when selecting a font for the gedit text editor - there is no >> way to ask it to only show

[CentOS] Google Chrome and CentOS 6?

2016-01-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
Hi all, Just recently I started getting the dreaded message about my CentOS 6.7 x64-installation wasn't going to be supported anymore by Google Chrome. "This computer will soon stop receiving Google Chrome updates because this Linux system will no longer be supported." Doing some google

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Alice Wonder
On 01/24/2016 11:31 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John Hodrien Sent: den 24 januari 2016 12:47 To: CentOS mailing list Cc: Mark LaPierre Subject: Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent My opinion is that

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Alice Wonder
On 01/24/2016 10:23 PM, Hal Wigoda wrote: Isn't this basically a volunteer effort? At one point I believe they were funded by Novel, not sure who is funding the project now. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Hal Wigoda
That's right. Novell acquired SCO. On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:29 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: > On 01/24/2016 10:23 PM, Hal Wigoda wrote: > >> Isn't this basically a volunteer effort? >> > > At one point I believe they were funded by Novel, not sure who is funding > the project

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Alice Wonder
On 01/24/2016 11:46 PM, Alice Wonder wrote: On 01/24/2016 11:31 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John Hodrien Sent: den 24 januari 2016 12:47 To: CentOS mailing list Cc: Mark LaPierre Subject: Re:

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Hal Wigoda
Isn't this basically a volunteer effort? On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 9:58 PM, Micky wrote: > > Seriously, who is in charge with the UI design in gnome? > > > > Whoever it is needs to be fired. > > > > /rant > > > > Most of them were already fired or left cause of

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/24/2016 10:23 PM, Hal Wigoda wrote: Isn't this basically a volunteer effort? Gnome has a foundation, with directors and stuff.Wikipedia says the Gnome project is funded by various companies, primarily Red Hat. But I also see some blogs by core people that its sort of drifting

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
> -Original Message- > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On > Behalf Of John Hodrien > Sent: den 24 januari 2016 12:47 > To: CentOS mailing list > Cc: Mark LaPierre > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent > > My opinion is that there's a silent majority

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Always Learning
On Sun, 2016-01-24 at 16:45 +, Peter Duffy wrote: > It would be very interesting to know how many other users are still on > CentOS/Red Hat 6 as a result of reluctance to enjoy all the - erm - > improvements in 7. Every new system I implement goes on C6. Hearing others' problems on C7

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 01/24/16 03:16, ken wrote: > On 01/23/2016 06:20 PM, Alice Wonder wrote: >> Sometimes the direction of UI development in gnome really angers me. >> >> For example, when selecting a font for the gedit text editor - there is >> no way to ask it to only show monospace fonts. >> >> It's a fricken

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Peter Duffy
On Sat, 2016-01-23 at 20:27 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:05:02 -0500 > Mark LaPierre wrote: > > > The main reason I'm still using, nearly obsolete, CentOS 6 is because I > > don't want to have to deal with Gnome 3. > > Install Mate on Centos 7 and you never have to touch

[CentOS] Intel Xorg driver for Intel HD graphics

2016-01-24 Thread Jerry Geis
I found this page: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2015q4-intel-graphics-stack-release I have an Intel NUC5C with "Intel HD" graphics and I'm trying to use CentOS 7.2 I downloaded the files suggested: cairo-1.14.4.tar.xz libva-1.6.2.tar.bz2 mesa-11.0.4.tar.xz

[CentOS] bash: Samba: command not found

2016-01-24 Thread Henry McLaughlin
I have installed Sernet Samba however after installation I cannot confirm the version: samba -V bash: samba: command not found ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] bash: Samba: command not found

2016-01-24 Thread David Nelson
Assuming the install really worked, it sounds like it gets placed in some location that isn't in your default path. Perhaps some sub-directory in /opt? > On Jan 24, 2016, at 11:05, Henry McLaughlin wrote: > > I have installed Sernet Samba however after installation I

Re: [CentOS] bash: Samba: command not found

2016-01-24 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 24, 2016 1:05 pm, Henry McLaughlin wrote: > I have installed Sernet Samba however after installation I cannot confirm > the version: > > samba -V > bash: samba: command not found It is always a good idea to give details about your machine. At leas, version of centos. You can try

Re: [CentOS] bash: Samba: command not found

2016-01-24 Thread Joey
I dont use samba since a few of year but i dont remember to a command like "samba" smbstatus, smbclient, smbd etc. were the commands ... Am 24.01.2016 um 20:05 schrieb Henry McLaughlin: > I have installed Sernet Samba however after installation I cannot confirm > the version: > > samba -V >

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sun, January 24, 2016 10:45 am, Peter Duffy wrote: > On Sat, 2016-01-23 at 20:27 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:05:02 -0500 >> Mark LaPierre wrote: >> >> > The main reason I'm still using, nearly obsolete, CentOS 6 is because >> I >> > don't want to have to deal with Gnome

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Joacim Melin
> On 24 Jan 2016, at 17:45, Peter Duffy wrote: > > On Sat, 2016-01-23 at 20:27 -0600, Frank Cox wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:05:02 -0500 >> Mark LaPierre wrote: >> >>> The main reason I'm still using, nearly obsolete, CentOS 6 is because I >>> don't want to have to

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Matt Garman
I haven't used gnome3, or any Linux desktop in earnest for a long time... But I used to be semi-obsessed with tweaking and configuring various Linux desktops. And back when I was doing that, there were dozens of desktop programs available, from super lightweight bare bones window managers, to full

Re: [CentOS] Intel Xorg driver for Intel HD graphics

2016-01-24 Thread Earl A Ramirez
What happen if you append i915.preliminary_hw_support=1 to the kernel argument? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Intel Xorg driver for Intel HD graphics

2016-01-24 Thread Ned Slider
You haven't explained the problem you are trying to solve. I assume your hardware is not supported? Which version of which package does not support your hardware? At what version was support added? On 24/01/16 18:42, Jerry Geis wrote: > I found this page: >

Re: [CentOS] bash: Samba: command not found

2016-01-24 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 08:21:56PM +0100, Joey wrote: > I dont use samba since a few of year but i dont remember to a command > like "samba" You will have various services that need to be started. If it's CentOS-7x then it's somewhere in systemd, I've forgotten where they put all possible

Re: [CentOS] Intel Xorg driver for Intel HD graphics

2016-01-24 Thread John R Pierce
On 1/24/2016 10:42 AM, Jerry Geis wrote: I found this page: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2015q4-intel-graphics-stack-release I have an Intel NUC5C with "Intel HD" graphics and I'm trying to use CentOS 7.2 All intel embedded graphics is "HD", but there have been a lot of

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Peter Duffy
On Sun, 2016-01-24 at 12:01 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Well, there is Linux distribution which is systemd-free. And that > distribution I predict will live for decently long time. It is "Devuan" - > a fork of Debian, stripped off systemd and friends... well, I should have > said: composed

Re: [CentOS] Just need to vent

2016-01-24 Thread Alice Wonder
On 01/24/2016 03:40 PM, Peter Duffy wrote: The thing which always gets me about systemd is not the thing itself, but the way it was rolled out. When I first installed Red Hat 7, if a window had appeared telling me about systemd and asking me if I wanted to use it, or stick with the old init