Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future

2020-12-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/17/20 5:54 PM, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote: It's purely a developer's distro. Has Chris Wright ever recommended CentOS for any purpose other than development and testing? Shall I explain difference between a developer's distro and the one suitable for production servers (a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future

2020-12-17 Thread Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS
On 16.12.2020 22:50, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 12/15/20 9:59 PM, Joshua Kramer wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 7:41 PM Johnny Hughes wrote: >> >>> $250K is not even close. That is one employee, when you also take into >>> account unemployment insurance, HR, medical insurance etc. now multiply

[CentOS-announce] CEEA-2020:5450 CentOS 7 microcode_ctl Enhancement Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Enhancement Advisory 2020:5450 Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHEA-2020:5450 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5462 CentOS 7 insights-client BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2020:5462 Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2020:5462 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) Source:

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5455 CentOS 7 adcli BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2020:5455 Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2020:5455 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2020:5443 Moderate CentOS 7 gd Security Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2020:5443 Moderate Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2020:5443 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-es] CentOS Governing Board: Do not destroy CentOS by using it as a RHEL upstream

2020-12-17 Thread Peter Q.
Bonjour, Je viens de signer la pétition "CentOS Governing Board: Do not destroy CentOS by using it as a RHEL upstream" et je souhaitais savoir si vous voudriez nous aider en ajoutant votre signature. Notre objectif est d'atteindre 10 000 signatures et nous avons besoin de plus de soutiens. Pour

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5438 CentOS 7 autofs BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2020:5438 Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2020:5438 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5433 CentOS 7 iscsi-initiator-utils BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2020:5433 Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2020:5433 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5442 CentOS 7 compat-unixODBC234 BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5448 CentOS 7 opensc BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2020:5448 Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2020:5448 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5461 CentOS 7 lvm2 BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2020:5461 Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2020:5461 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5465 CentOS 7 389-ds-base BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5436 CentOS 7 gnome-settings-daemon BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5460 CentOS 7 icedtea-web BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2020:5460 Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2020:5460 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5464 CentOS 7 ImageMagick BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2020:5464 Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2020:5464 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5456 CentOS 7 bind BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5457 CentOS 7 rpmdevtools BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5458 CentOS 7 realmd BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2020:5434 Moderate CentOS 7 targetcli Security Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5452 CentOS 7 subscription-manager BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2020:5453 Moderate CentOS 7 pacemaker Security Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5454 CentOS 7 pulseaudio BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5451 CentOS 7 scap-security-guide BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5444 CentOS 7 virt-who BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2020:5435 Moderate CentOS 7 python-rtslib Security Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CESA-2020:5439 Moderate CentOS 7 samba Security Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5432 CentOS 7 vim BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5459 CentOS 7 sssd BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2020:5459 Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2020:5459 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5440 CentOS 7 pcp BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
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[CentOS-announce] CEBA-2020:5447 CentOS 7 java-11-openjdk BugFix Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2020:5447 Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2020:5447 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2020:5566 Important CentOS 7 openssl Security Update

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2020:5566 Important Upstream details at : https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2020:5566 The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename ) x86_64:

Re: [CentOS-es] cloudlinux hará un clon de CentOS

2020-12-17 Thread Aland Laines
Como lo están pintando en la nota, es algo bueno para todos nosotros, esperemos este año que viene para las pruebas de todas las opciones que saldrán. Lo que nos lleva a la realidad [image: SGINFO Perú] Aland Laines Calonge IT Consultant | SGINFO Perú phone: +51 959 288 507 email:

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.3 bugs

2020-12-17 Thread d tbsky
Peter Huebner > Crazy, in Oracle Linux, it cames today as new package together with > net-snmp-libs in repo AppStream also. Considering Oracle Linux has RHEL > as upstream (not CentOS), the missing problem must be originated at > RHEL. but net-snmp-perl is include in

Re: [CentOS] Questions about Stream

2020-12-17 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 17.12.20 um 22:30 schrieb Johnny Hughes: On 12/17/20 3:14 PM, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: Am 17.12.20 um 21:13 schrieb Johnny Hughes: On 12/17/20 12:11 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:26:50PM +0300, Andrey wrote: Consider the scenario: a bug or security issue found

Re: [CentOS] Questions about Stream

2020-12-17 Thread edward via CentOS
On 2020-12-17 13:30, Johnny Hughes wrote: Red Hat is going to an open development model for RHEL using CentOS Stream. will it be something similar  hp is doing with clearOS development? https://www.clearos.com/products/clearos-editions/clearos-7-compare-editions

Re: [CentOS] Questions about Stream

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/17/20 3:14 PM, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: > Am 17.12.20 um 21:13 schrieb Johnny Hughes: >> On 12/17/20 12:11 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:26:50PM +0300, Andrey wrote: Consider the scenario: a bug or security issue found in both Stream and current

Re: [CentOS] Questions about Stream

2020-12-17 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 17.12.20 um 21:13 schrieb Johnny Hughes: On 12/17/20 12:11 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:26:50PM +0300, Andrey wrote: Consider the scenario: a bug or security issue found in both Stream and current RHEL. It was fixed in RHEL in a few days. How fast it will be fixed in

Re: [CentOS] Questions about Stream

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/17/20 12:11 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:26:50PM +0300, Andrey wrote: >> Consider the scenario: a bug or security issue found in both Stream >> and current RHEL. It was fixed in RHEL in a few days. How fast it >> will be fixed in Stream? Obviously, it needs some

Re: [CentOS-es] cloudlinux hará un clon de CentOS

2020-12-17 Thread David González Romero
Había otra interesante... ClearOS https://www.clearos.com/ Saludos, David El mar, 15 dic 2020 a las 2:14, Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez, Mg. via CentOS-es () escribió: > Les conozco, les uso. Que les vaya bien! > > >

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-17 Thread David González Romero
El lun, 14 dic 2020 a las 14:36, Rene L.A. () escribió: > Tal vez debamos, nosotros, los usuarios, reflexionar sobre ciertos temas. > 1) ¿Habrá algún proyecto que mantenga en el largo plazo sin la > contribución de la mayoría de los usuarios? > Pienso que no. > Es que esa es la política o

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-17 Thread Japheth Cleaver
On 12/17/2020 9:29 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On 12/13/20 3:25 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:05:42 +0100 Rainer Duffner wrote: It’s also not often the case that you can split this kind of work into a thousand work-packages and have everybody just work 1/2 hour a day on it. not

Re: [CentOS] Questions about Stream

2020-12-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 03:26:50PM +0300, Andrey wrote: > Consider the scenario: a bug or security issue found in both Stream > and current RHEL. It was fixed in RHEL in a few days. How fast it > will be fixed in Stream? Obviously, it needs some time to port the > fix to newer version of package.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future

2020-12-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On 12/16/20 5:09 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: Hi Lamar, glad to interact w/ you on the list. We both have been doing this for a long time. Yes, indeed. (Xenix V7 on a TRS-80 Model 16 in 1988..., I STILL use my vi skills from that time i my life!) I was not thrilled about this decision and it

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On 12/14/20 10:52 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote: ... The main issue against using Fedora in production environments is the short lifecycle. Forcing an upgrade, and all the associated testing, auditing, etc. of the base version every year or so is not tenable for most organizations. Indeed. 

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.3 bugs

2020-12-17 Thread Peter Huebner
Am Freitag, den 18.12.2020, 00:50 +0800 schrieb d tbsky: > > On 12/17/20 3:47 AM, Simon Matter wrote: > > > > Hi: > > > >     just try to install CentOS 8.3. I use two sata disks and > > > > create > > > > mdadm raid1 with LVM. Normally when I want to reinstall this > > > > system, > > > >

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On 12/13/20 3:25 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:05:42 +0100 Rainer Duffner wrote: It’s also not often the case that you can split this kind of work into a thousand work-packages and have everybody just work 1/2 hour a day on it. not like Debian for instance No, not at all

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.3 bugs

2020-12-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On 12/17/20 11:59 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: The compose takes place on pungi and the process has several config files, etc. Composing CentOS Linux 8 is significantly differ than other releases, and it is more complicated. We do fix things as soon as we see them. Glad to see net-snmp-perl back

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future

2020-12-17 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 17.12.20 um 17:38 schrieb Nicolas Kovacs: Le 15/12/2020 à 10:09, Thomas Bendler a écrit : If you have to deal with proprietary software, OEL is currently the only cost-free option you have (if an RHEL clone is wanted). The advantage with OEL is that most proprietary software supports OEL

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.3 bugs

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/17/20 10:50 AM, d tbsky wrote: >> On 12/17/20 3:47 AM, Simon Matter wrote: Hi: just try to install CentOS 8.3. I use two sata disks and create mdadm raid1 with LVM. Normally when I want to reinstall this system, anaconda should recognize the raid1/lvm so I can

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.3 bugs

2020-12-17 Thread d tbsky
> On 12/17/20 3:47 AM, Simon Matter wrote: > >> Hi: > >> just try to install CentOS 8.3. I use two sata disks and create > >> mdadm raid1 with LVM. Normally when I want to reinstall this system, > >> anaconda should recognize the raid1/lvm so I can reformat it. > >> anaconda at CentOS 8.3

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future

2020-12-17 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 15/12/2020 à 10:09, Thomas Bendler a écrit : > If you have to deal with proprietary software, OEL is currently the only > cost-free > option you have (if an RHEL clone is wanted). The advantage with OEL is that > most proprietary software supports OEL out-of-the-box, you don't have to do >

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/16/20 6:07 PM, Peter Eckel wrote: > Hi Johnny, > >> $250K is not even close. That is one employee, when you also take into >> account unemployment insurance, HR, medical insurance etc. now multiply >> that by 8. Now, outfit those 8 employees to work from home .. all over >> the world,

Re: [CentOS] Questions about Stream

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/17/20 6:26 AM, Andrey wrote: > > OK, we realized that the changes are final, and must somehow deal with > it. Before making final decisions we need some answers. > > 1. What about bugs and security issues? The FAQ says: "Security issues > will be updated in CentOS Stream after they are

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.3 bugs

2020-12-17 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 12/17/20 3:47 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >> Hi: >> just try to install CentOS 8.3. I use two sata disks and create >> mdadm raid1 with LVM. Normally when I want to reinstall this system, >> anaconda should recognize the raid1/lvm so I can reformat it. >> anaconda at CentOS 8.3 failed to do the

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-17 Thread Skylar Thompson
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 05:25:16PM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > ... snip ... > Today, CentOS is a release stage after Stage 5 described above. The CentOS > maintainers begin work on a minor release after that release is available to > RHEL consumers, and the process of rebuilding those packages

Re: [CentOS] MTU report question

2020-12-17 Thread Strahil Nikolov via CentOS
seems so ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?

2020-12-17 Thread Valeri Galtsev
> On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:35 AM, Thomas Bendler wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 1:42 AM Nate Duehr wrote: > >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Matti Pulkkinen" >>> As someone who is considering moving to OL, I wonder if you could >> elaborate clearly on what specific concerns you

[CentOS] Questions about Stream

2020-12-17 Thread Andrey
OK, we realized that the changes are final, and must somehow deal with it. Before making final decisions we need some answers. 1. What about bugs and security issues? The FAQ says: "Security issues will be updated in CentOS Stream after they are solved in the current RHEL release."

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.3 bugs

2020-12-17 Thread ed via CentOS
interesting...i thought rhel 8.3 and centos 8.3 were identical and should functionthe same? unless i'm misreading. On 2020-12-17 01:00, d tbsky wrote:ld Hi: just try to install CentOS 8.3. I use two sata disks and create mdadm raid1 with LVM. Normally when I want to reinstall this system,

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8.3 bugs

2020-12-17 Thread Simon Matter
> Hi: > just try to install CentOS 8.3. I use two sata disks and create > mdadm raid1 with LVM. Normally when I want to reinstall this system, > anaconda should recognize the raid1/lvm so I can reformat it. > anaconda at CentOS 8.3 failed to do the job. I tried Scientific Linux > 7.9 and RHEL

Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?

2020-12-17 Thread Thomas Bendler
On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 1:42 AM Nate Duehr wrote: > -- Original Message -- > From: "Matti Pulkkinen" > >As someone who is considering moving to OL, I wonder if you could > elaborate clearly on what specific concerns you have, without the > insinuation and analogy? Oracle's proposition

[CentOS] CentOS 8.3 bugs

2020-12-17 Thread d tbsky
Hi: just try to install CentOS 8.3. I use two sata disks and create mdadm raid1 with LVM. Normally when I want to reinstall this system, anaconda should recognize the raid1/lvm so I can reformat it. anaconda at CentOS 8.3 failed to do the job. I tried Scientific Linux 7.9 and RHEL 8.3, both