On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 5:12 PM Leon Fauster via CentOS
wrote:
> Right now, I am seeing a lot of requests in the Rocky forum, to add
> new shiny stuff to the distribution and the answer to most of this
> is (more or less); "we (Rocky) are a 1:1 rebuild of upstream and we can
> not add new stuff
On 08.07.21 19:53, Gionatan Danti wrote:
Il 2021-07-08 16:46 Leon Fauster via CentOS ha scritto:
Maybe "we" could fill this gap? Describe this state of EPEL? Did you
requested such missing packages? From the early on (EL8.0) I requested
such EPEL packages, some fedora maintainers branched there
Understood.
like all previous trends in technology, that too will change, the
landscape is always changing..
I'm an idealist, there is no way in hell I would ever accept anything
from Amazon or Microsoft, never...would rather fail than surrender
principles
On Thu, 2021-07-08 at 15:37
On Thu, Jul 8, 2021 at 3:32 PM mario juliano grande-balletta <
mario.balle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The motivations behind Rocky Linux are noble indeed, altruistic and
> back to community.
> But, accepting support from Amazon, Google, and especially Microsoft
> tastes like vomit in my mouth.
The motivations behind Rocky Linux are noble indeed, altruistic and
back to community.
But, accepting support from Amazon, Google, and especially Microsoft
tastes like vomit in my mouth. Nothing in the world I despise and
disrespect more than anything related to Microsoft.
Get better sponsors,
On 8/7/2021 8:53 μ.μ., Gionatan Danti wrote:
That said, lets face in: current CentOS is not really a community, at
least in the sense that a community can steer the project direction.
Nobody polled for Stream or asked about it. Stream simply happened due
to an unilateral Red Hat decision.
Il 2021-07-08 16:46 Leon Fauster via CentOS ha scritto:
Maybe "we" could fill this gap? Describe this state of EPEL? Did you
requested such missing packages? From the early on (EL8.0) I requested
such EPEL packages, some fedora maintainers branched there packages
into
EPEL8. Even a request for
> Am 08.07.2021 um 17:38 schrieb Nikolaos Milas :
>
> On 8/7/2021 6:19 μ.μ., Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>> ...
>> Of course, tastes differ, but still, only those who tasted both things can
>> have fairly say what is better to one's own taste.
>> ...
>> But even as part of our infrastructure fled
On Thu Jul 08 12:32:53 PM, mark wrote:
> I'm reminded of a column in SysAdmin, a long time ago. Seems the woman who
> wrote? contributed? to the column Daemons and Dragons was wearing a t-shirt
> with the logo, and she was traveling with some folks in the US South. She
> went in to pick up some
On 7/8/21 11:38 AM, Nikolaos Milas wrote:
On 8/7/2021 6:19 μ.μ., Valeri Galtsev wrote:
...
Of course, tastes differ, but still, only those who tasted both things
can have fairly say what is better to one's own taste.
...
But even as part of our infrastructure fled to FreeBSD...
...
As a
On 8/7/2021 5:46 μ.μ., Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote:
Μaybe "we" could fill this gap? Describe this state of EPEL? Did you
requested such missing packages? From the early on (EL8.0) I requested
such EPEL packages, some fedora maintainers branched there packages into
EPEL8. Even a request for a
On 8/7/2021 6:53 μ.μ., Valeri Galtsev wrote:
THAT must have been part of the reason for mscot. Also, they call
mascot Beasty (as in diminutive from :"beast"). And if you pronounce
the abbreviation of Berkeley Software Distribution (the one FreeBSD is
successor of): BSD, and then "beasty" they
Personally, I have always been a fan of the BSD distributions and have
always kept at least 1 virtual machine running a flavor of
BSD. However, I am not religious, and have no attachment to anything
supernatural or metaphysical or any other pseudo-spiritual thing.
I just think with the changes
Le 2021-07-08 17:38, Nikolaos Milas a écrit :
On 8/7/2021 6:19 μ.μ., Valeri Galtsev wrote:
...
Of course, tastes differ, but still, only those who tasted both things
can have fairly say what is better to one's own taste.
...
But even as part of our infrastructure fled to FreeBSD...
...
As
On 7/8/21 10:38 AM, Nikolaos Milas wrote:
On 8/7/2021 6:19 μ.μ., Valeri Galtsev wrote:
...
Of course, tastes differ, but still, only those who tasted both things
can have fairly say what is better to one's own taste.
...
But even as part of our infrastructure fled to FreeBSD...
...
As a
On 7/8/21 10:38 AM, Nikolaos Milas wrote:
On 8/7/2021 6:19 μ.μ., Valeri Galtsev wrote:
...
Of course, tastes differ, but still, only those who tasted both things
can have fairly say what is better to one's own taste.
...
But even as part of our infrastructure fled to FreeBSD...
...
As a
On 8/7/2021 6:19 μ.μ., Valeri Galtsev wrote:
...
Of course, tastes differ, but still, only those who tasted both things
can have fairly say what is better to one's own taste.
...
But even as part of our infrastructure fled to FreeBSD...
...
As a side note:
l never used FreeBSD, even though
On 7/8/21 8:55 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 08:39:19AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
Well, I fled servers from CentOS to FreeBSD almost a decade ago. And
actually not From CentOS per se, but from Linux. One of the reasons
was: every 45 days on average: glibc or kernel
On 08.07.21 14:38, Gionatan Danti wrote:
Il 2021-07-08 13:22 Nikolaos Milas ha scritto:
If some people want to leave the RHEL ecosystem for Debian or FreeBSD,
that's OK. But for those who want to stay in the RHEL world, Rocky
Linux stands as a rock-solid solution. This opinion does not reject
On Thu, 8 Jul 2021, Jonathan Billings wrote:
Long uptimes are a thing of the past. Build redundancy into your
infrastructure so you can handle reboots.
+1
Beyond building redundancy, I'd suggest building the culture that sees
regular maintenance windows as a provider of, not a drag on,
On Thu, Jul 08, 2021 at 08:39:19AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> Well, I fled servers from CentOS to FreeBSD almost a decade ago. And
> actually not From CentOS per se, but from Linux. One of the reasons
> was: every 45 days on average: glibc or kernel update —> reboot. One
> of my friends
> On Jul 8, 2021, at 6:22 AM, Nikolaos Milas wrote:
>
> On 7/7/2021 8:17 μ.μ., Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>> And I feel safe running (and planning to run for long future to come) quite
>> reputable ones with long history of such: FreeBSD (servers), Debian (number
>> crunchers, workstations).
>
Soon, we will all have to find a way to work with other distributions,
or work together to create and maintain new distributions that focus on
micro/small/medium business. Eventually, this will be the only way to
keep virtualization and hybrid cloud available. Everyone smells money
and RedHat is
Il 2021-07-08 13:22 Nikolaos Milas ha scritto:
If some people want to leave the RHEL ecosystem for Debian or FreeBSD,
that's OK. But for those who want to stay in the RHEL world, Rocky
Linux stands as a rock-solid solution. This opinion does not reject
other CentOS clones, but emphasizes the
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On 7/7/2021 8:17 μ.μ., Valeri Galtsev wrote:
And I feel safe running (and planning to run for long future to come)
quite reputable ones with long history of such: FreeBSD (servers),
Debian (number crunchers, workstations).
I feel totally safe and confident with the fully community-driven
On 08/07/2021 09:09, Mark Rousell wrote:
> I'm not affiliated with Navy Linux but it seems to me there's nothing
> inconsistent there. They say it was set up as a community project on
> January 4, 2021 and a foundation (a common component of community
> projects) was formed on June 14, 2021.
>
>
On 07/07/2021 17:52, Jon Pruente wrote:
> That furthers what I wrote earlier. That says:
> > Date of formation: June 14, 2021
>
> Yet the about page ( https://navylinux.org/about/ ) was changed to say:
>> Navy Linux and The Navy Linux Project is an on-going community project
> founded by Navy
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