m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:37:29 -0500:
And here's two thoughts that just struck me: first, they have no way to
apply to be whitelisted.
I think there are ways, they do maintain a whitelist. Maybe Hostmonster is
just not good enough to get on it. Did you consider that?
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on Thu, 5 Dec 2013 16:47:37 -0500:
I keep hoping, perhaps foolishly, that others who get hit with this will
add their voice, and that the list might go to using some other source to
block spam.
Oh, yeah, until the day where that list adds Hostmonster as well and
Kai Schaetzl wrote:
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on Thu, 5 Dec 2013 14:37:29 -0500:
And here's two thoughts that just struck me: first, they have no way to
apply to be whitelisted.
I think there are ways, they do maintain a whitelist. Maybe Hostmonster is
just not good enough to get on it. Did
The list pays very well. It's just that your hosting provider is
regularly or irregularly on it. That's the only reason you think it
doesn't pay. Not a good reason. It pays for everybody else on this
list except you. Consider that. It may even pay for you, just that you
don't notice (less
I've been blocked twice this morning, and removed myself once - the first
time, by the time I got to work and looked at the list, it was already
gone. My hosting provider works with those jerks at manitu. I've ranted a
number of times over the years at why their method is a *lousy* method for
Actually, Manitu, also known as NIXSpam, is quite a good list. I've been
using only this one and Spamhaus for years. Very good FP:Spam ratio.
I, too, had an issue with the list lately and contacted the maintainer of
the project who gave me a good explanation of why Facebook servers may be
On 05/12/13 18:19, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Actually, Manitu, also known as NIXSpam, is quite a good list. I've been
using only this one and Spamhaus for years. Very good FP:Spam ratio.
I, too, had an issue with the list lately and contacted the maintainer of
the project who gave me a good
On 05.12.2013 18:19, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Actually, Manitu, also known as NIXSpam, is quite a good list. I've
been
using only this one and Spamhaus for years. Very good FP:Spam ratio.
RBLs should at most be used in Spamassassin to increase the score,
otherwise you risk losing legit email!
Ned Slider wrote:
On 05/12/13 18:19, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Actually, Manitu, also known as NIXSpam, is quite a good list. I've been
using only this one and Spamhaus for years. Very good FP:Spam ratio.
I, too, had an issue with the list lately and contacted the maintainer
of the project who
Ned Slider wrote:
On 05/12/13 18:19, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Actually, Manitu, also known as NIXSpam, is quite a good list. I've been
using only this one and Spamhaus for years. Very good FP:Spam ratio.
snip
Simple fact in the second decade of the 21st century is their server,
their rules. If
On 05/12/13 19:37, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Ned Slider wrote:
On 05/12/13 18:19, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Actually, Manitu, also known as NIXSpam, is quite a good list. I've been
using only this one and Spamhaus for years. Very good FP:Spam ratio.
snip
Simple fact in the second decade of the 21st
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote:
It's not difficult to prevent
outgoing spam,
The rest of the world begs to differ... If it were easy to stop spam
there wouldn't be any spam.
As you've found out, twice now, it's highly effective and gets people's
On 05/12/13 19:25, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Ned Slider wrote:
On 05/12/13 18:19, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Actually, Manitu, also known as NIXSpam, is quite a good list. I've been
using only this one and Spamhaus for years. Very good FP:Spam ratio.
I, too, had an issue with the list lately and
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote:
You are collateral damage. No one cares.
It's not that no one else cares. It is just that everyone else has
given up the fight and been forced to move to large mail hubs that can
afford to keep themselves whitelisted. Marc
Ned Slider wrote:
On 05/12/13 19:37, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Ned Slider wrote:
On 05/12/13 18:19, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Actually, Manitu, also known as NIXSpam, is quite a good list. I've
been using only this one and Spamhaus for years. Very good FP:Spam
ratio.
snip
Simple fact in the second
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote:
You are still completely missing the point. It doesn't matter what YOU
think makes sense.
No, I think that _is_ his point.
It's totally irrelevant. I run a mail server. My
server, my rules.
Yes, running a mail server
Nux! wrote:
On 05.12.2013 18:19, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Actually, Manitu, also known as NIXSpam, is quite a good list. I've
been using only this one and Spamhaus for years. Very good FP:Spam ratio.
RBLs should at most be used in Spamassassin to increase the score,
otherwise you risk losing
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:10 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
So, you're offering to pay the difference between the, what is it, $6/mo
that I pay, and a commercial rate?
I think you could afford what it would cost to originate your mail
from a gmail or ymail account. Even though I agree with your
On 05/12/13 20:02, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote:
It's not difficult to prevent
outgoing spam,
The rest of the world begs to differ... If it were easy to stop spam
there wouldn't be any spam.
No, the rest of the world mostly just
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote:
It's not difficult to prevent
outgoing spam,
The rest of the world begs to differ... If it were easy to stop spam
there wouldn't be any spam.
No, the rest of the world mostly just don't care. It's not difficult for
Ned Slider wrote:
On 05/12/13 20:02, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote:
snip
No, the rest of the world mostly just don't care. It's not difficult for
an ISP/provider to block outgoing spam. Many ISPs manage to run clean
operations and
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 03:30:11PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
So, justify your assertion with counter-evidence.
Please do so in a venue that is relevant to this on-going pissing
contest if you would be so kind. Thank you.
John
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 3:23 PM, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote:
So, justify your assertion with counter-evidence.
Please do so in a venue that is relevant to this on-going pissing
contest if you would be so kind. Thank you.
You mean a venue that chooses to use the specific
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 03:26:45PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
You mean a venue that chooses to use the specific service being
discussed with the specific results being discussed? Hmmm...
It stopped being that quite some time back. Like the last time this
occured. Or the time before that.
John R. Dennison wrote:
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 03:26:45PM -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
You mean a venue that chooses to use the specific service being
discussed with the specific results being discussed? Hmmm...
It stopped being that quite some time back. Like the last time this
occured.
On 05.12.2013 20:15, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Nux! wrote:
On 05.12.2013 18:19, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Actually, Manitu, also known as NIXSpam, is quite a good list. I've
been using only this one and Spamhaus for years. Very good FP:Spam
ratio.
RBLs should at most be used in Spamassassin to
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