Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-13 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
In the context of RHEL clones, I think we should use term "EL" instead of "CentOS", that is now trademark owned by RH. On 12/13/20 8:36 PM, Nikolaos Milas wrote: > On 13/12/2020 1:05 μ.μ., Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> Just an update, name of the project will be "Lenix", and I missedin >>

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-13 Thread Nikolaos Milas
On 13/12/2020 1:05 μ.μ., Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Just an update, name of the project will be "Lenix", and I missedin announcement that unlike CentOS they plan to publish all the build tools and environment so other clones can be built even if they stray, a very commendable approach. Sounds

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-13 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
> Someone is smarter then Red Hat/IBM, "Carpe Diem": > > Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux > > (https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-community-driven-rhel-fork-by-cloudlinux) > > CentOS is a fork of Red Hat Enterp

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Simon Matter
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:07 PM Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > >> Le 11/12/2020 à 17:14, Phelps, Matthew a écrit : >> > My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker, >> apart >> > from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be >> for a >> > while. >> >> I've

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 18:06:36 +0100 Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > I've just had a conversation with one of the Oracle Linux guys. I can't really > quote him publicly, but since I've already had some good experiences with OL > ten years ago (when I installed the local motorway company's servers), I guess

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Victor Pereira
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:07 PM Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 11/12/2020 à 17:14, Phelps, Matthew a écrit : > > My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker, apart > > from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be for a > > while. > > I've just had a

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 11/12/2020 à 17:14, Phelps, Matthew a écrit : > My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker, apart > from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be for a > while. I've just had a conversation with one of the Oracle Linux guys. I can't really quote

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Victor Pereira
On the other hand, I believe and seeing the glass half full, that this is good to stir the waters a bit since it has been a long time since we saw new Forks of Operating Systems that could be so important and that make the communities work together again in something common without going through a

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 11.12.20 um 17:30 schrieb Victor Pereira: On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Phelps, Matthew wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne wrote: Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Phelps, Matthew
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:30 AM Victor Pereira wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Phelps, Matthew > wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne > > wrote: > > > > > Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, > > > with the original goals of

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Victor Pereira
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Phelps, Matthew wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne > wrote: > > > Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, > > with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH then > > IBM) as a stable,

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Phelps, Matthew
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne wrote: > Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, > with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH then > IBM) as a stable, enterprise OS, I'm putting my support behind Rocky > rockylinux.org and would

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Richard B. Pyne
Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH then IBM) as a stable, enterprise OS, I'm putting my support behind Rocky rockylinux.org and would urge others to do the same. I've been around the Linux world

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Tom Bishop
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 7:53 AM Scott Robbins wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 01:09:46PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Dec, 2020 at 07:48:25 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: > > > > > One assumes however, that this wouldn't happen with OEL, though one > never > > > knows. > > > > OEL =

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 11/12/2020 à 14:09, Liam O'Toole a écrit : > OEL = Oracle Enterprise Linux? There is no reason in heaven or hell to trust > them. As far as I'm concerned, they're the good guys now. :o) -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site :

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 01:09:46PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec, 2020 at 07:48:25 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: > > One assumes however, that this wouldn't happen with OEL, though one never > > knows. > > OEL = Oracle Enterprise Linux? There is no reason in heaven or hell to >

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 11 Dec, 2020 at 07:48:25 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:21:35PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Dec, 2020 at 13:12:26 -0600, Tom Bishop wrote: > > > +1 > > > Looks like between Springdale, Rocky and CloudLinux there will be options. > > > Such a bad

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:21:35PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec, 2020 at 13:12:26 -0600, Tom Bishop wrote: > > +1 > > Looks like between Springdale, Rocky and CloudLinux there will be options. > > Such a bad decision that RH made to do this... > > True. I just hope that the various

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 10 Dec, 2020 at 13:12:26 -0600, Tom Bishop wrote: > +1 > Looks like between Springdale, Rocky and CloudLinux there will be options. > Such a bad decision that RH made to do this... True. I just hope that the various alternatives will pool their resources. History has shown that RHEL

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-10 Thread Tom Bishop
munity-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux > > ( > https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-community-driven-rhel-fork-by-cloudlinux > ) > > CentOS is a fork of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) and undoubtedly a > popular choice to deploy on production servers because of

[CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Someone is smarter then Red Hat/IBM, "Carpe Diem": Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux (https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-community-driven-rhel-fork-by-cloudlinux) CentOS is a fork of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) and undoubt