On 08/17/2009 03:46 PM, Brian Mathis wrote:
I requested access to edit the Wiki last week, but as I only have
minor edits to contribute thus far, it has not been granted.
Apparently I need to write a dissertation before rights are granted --
proving that I'm not a spammer seems to not be
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
Phil Schaffner wrote:
...
Thanks, please also consider changing the title. Nothing about it tells
you that the instructions are for first time install only. Perhaps
adding instructions for switching to console during install time will
reinforce that fact
Brian Mathis wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Phil
Schaffnerphilip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov wrote:
... but left /dev/sda and /dev/sdb in
place as changing to /dev/sdX|Y looked very awkward to me.
...
Phil
That's exactly the point of using something like X/Y. It stands out
and looks
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Phil
Schaffnerphilip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov wrote:
Brian Mathis wrote:
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Phil
Schaffnerphilip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov wrote:
... but left /dev/sda and /dev/sdb in
place as changing to /dev/sdX|Y looked very awkward to me.
...
Phil
Phil Schaffner wrote:
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
Phil Schaffner wrote:
...
Thanks, please also consider changing the title. Nothing about it tells
you that the instructions are for first time install only. Perhaps
adding instructions for switching to console during
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Phil
Schaffnerphilip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov wrote:
... but left /dev/sda and /dev/sdb in
place as changing to /dev/sdX|Y looked very awkward to me.
...
Phil
That's exactly the point of using something like X/Y. It stands out
and looks awkward, which draws
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
1) The Title of the article says How to Setup a Software RAID on CentOS 5
2) My successor is a real HK bred and born person so his command of the
English language is like most such persons; that is to say, very poor.
3) Regarding not letting him within ten
Max Hetrick wrote:
Someone added a very bright disclaimer, so all should be good in the
future. I do agree with others that using /dev/sdX would probably be
wise as well in documentation, but that doesn't fix the true root of the
problem. People really should watch cutting and pasting, or
Again, Max, well said ;)
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:53 AM, Max Hetrick maxhetr...@verizon.net wrote:
Max Hetrick wrote:
Someone added a very bright disclaimer, so all should be good in the
future. I do agree with others that using /dev/sdX would probably be
wise as well in
Max Hetrick wrote:
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
1) The Title of the article says How to Setup a Software RAID on CentOS 5
2) My successor is a real HK bred and born person so his command of the
English language is like most such persons; that is to say, very poor.
3) Regarding not
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:38:00 -0400
Brian Mathis brian.mat...@gmail.com
It also helps to understand how people read instructions. When
they look at a page, they see {big blob of useless introduction
text}, then they see
James B. Byrne wrote:
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:38:00 -0400
Brian Mathis brian.mat...@gmail.com
It also helps to understand how people read instructions. When
they look at a page, they see {big blob of useless introduction
Max Hetrick wrote:
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SoftwareRAIDonCentOS5
has:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=64
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=64
Will the joker who put in this particular gem without any warnings or a
clear
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SoftwareRAIDonCentOS5
has:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=64
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=64
Will the joker who put in this particular gem without any warnings or a
clear explanation for those who need a clueby4 with regards to file
systems
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:41:10PM +0800, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SoftwareRAIDonCentOS5
has:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=64
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=64
Will the joker who put in this particular gem without any
I would agree with Max. Doing things you don't know requires you to have a
bit of knowledge before proceeding like warnings in a few configuration
files to not to go ahead and doom your production systems if you clearly
don't understand what any configuration may have been for.
It said what it did
Ray Van Dolson wrote:
Dumb people will find ways to be dumb no matter how much you dumb
things down... :)
You can't teach or bottle common sense... ;)
Even with no warnings on the document, the first sentence states this is
for install time.
Anyone that has ever installed an OS should know
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SoftwareRAIDonCentOS5
has:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=64
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=64
Will the joker who put in this particular gem without any warnings or a
clear explanation for those who
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SoftwareRAIDonCentOS5
has:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=64
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=64
Will the joker who put in this particular gem without any warnings or a
clear explanation for those who
On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 10:56 -0400, Max Hetrick wrote:
Ray Van Dolson wrote:
Dumb people will find ways to be dumb no matter how much you dumb
things down... :)
You can't teach or bottle common sense... ;)
Even with no warnings on the document, the first sentence states this is
for
On Wednesday 12 August 2009, Ray Van Dolson ra...@bludgeon.org wrote:
My successor at my previous job has gleefully followed those
instructions (he seriously needs a clueby4 which is why he bothers to
actually read HowTos) and on a production box (who wants pop-corn and
soda? Sorry, the er
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org
[mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Alan Hodgson
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 12:21
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dangerous Software Raid instructions on Wiki
On Wednesday 12 August 2009, Ray
At Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:41:10 +0800 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
wrote:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SoftwareRAIDonCentOS5
has:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=64
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=64
Will the joker who put in this particular gem without any
Alan Hodgson wrote:
Let me be even more clear - if your successor doesn't know what dd does, or
what drives correspond to /dev/sda and /dev/sdb in the box he's working on,
he has no business being within 10 feet of a production server without
careful supervision.
What physically
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Alan Hodgsonahodg...@simkin.ca wrote:
I think this seriously highlights the need to hire competent system
administrators.
The reason you want to wipe the beginning of the drive is that some
fake-raid controllers write crap to the drive and if you leave it
Brian Mathis wrote:
This thread seriously highlights the sort of attitudes that are
causing major issues in IT in general, and have been for years.
Whenever someone makes a mistake, we point fingers and call them
stupid. We haughtily proclaim that only people who know what they
are doing
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SoftwareRAIDonCentOS5
has:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=64
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=64
Will the joker who put in this particular gem without any warnings or a
clear explanation for those who
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Max Hetrickmaxhetr...@verizon.net wrote:
Brian Mathis wrote:
This thread seriously highlights the sort of attitudes that are
causing major issues in IT in general, and have been for years.
Whenever someone makes a mistake, we point fingers and call them
Max Hetrick wrote:
Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote:
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SoftwareRAIDonCentOS5
has:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=64
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=64
Will the joker who put in this particular gem without any warnings or a
clear
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