Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > updatedb is not a daemon or package. It's run by cron automatically in the > night once you install slocate. > > Kai In CentOS 5.x, and RHEL 5.x, it's in the "mlocate" package. ___ CentOS mailing l

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-28 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Always Learning wrote on Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:18:26 +: > Appears not to have been installed. No trace of anything in /var/lib > either. It's not clear what you want to express. If you didn't install mlocate there will be no locate or updatedb, of course. Kai ___

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-28 Thread Kai Schaetzl
updatedb is not a daemon or package. It's run by cron automatically in the night once you install slocate. Kai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-28 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 15:36 +, John Hodrien wrote: > If it's installed, it should have a cron job here: > > /etc/cron.daily/mlocate.cron > > The package is called mlocate, as has already been mentioned in this thread. Appears not to have been installed. No trace of anything in /var/lib eit

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-28 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 16:36 +0100, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: > yes it is: /etc/cron.daily/mlocate.cron No trace. That is probably why it never worked for me. With best regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-28 Thread cpolish
Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > One *does* have to remember the "mlocate" package's limitations. It > doesn't browse network mounted directories, it doesn't browse /tmp or > look for other excluded targets, and it runs with the nightly cron > jobs. So if you're looking for files in /var/tmp/ or an NFS

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-28 Thread Todd Denniston
Always Learning wrote, On 01/28/2011 10:25 AM: > On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 14:50 +, John Hodrien wrote: > >> All configurable via /etc/updatedb.conf if your local needs differ. > > How does one remove it ? > > yum erase updated ? > > It is not present in any CRON. > There is a new cron

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-28 Thread John Hodrien
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Always Learning wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 14:50 +, John Hodrien wrote: > >> All configurable via /etc/updatedb.conf if your local needs differ. > > How does one remove it ? > > yum erase updated ? > > It is not present in any CRON. If it's installed, it shoul

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-28 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Always Learning wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 14:50 +, John Hodrien wrote: > >> All configurable via /etc/updatedb.conf if your local needs differ. > > How does one remove it ? > > yum erase updated ? > > It is not present in any CRON. yes it is: /etc/cron.daily/mlocate.cron _

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-28 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 14:50 +, John Hodrien wrote: > All configurable via /etc/updatedb.conf if your local needs differ. How does one remove it ? yum erase updated ? It is not present in any CRON. -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. __

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-28 Thread John Hodrien
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > One *does* have to remember the "mlocate" package's limitations. It > doesn't browse network mounted directories, it doesn't browse /tmp or > look for other excluded targets, and it runs with the nightly cron > jobs. So if you're looking for files in

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-28 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:56 AM, John Hodrien wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Always Learning wrote: > >> Thanks for the explanation. Now I know why locate never usually worked >> for me - it hadn't updated. >> >> find is fast, especially when I restrict the search paths. > > But locate is faster st

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-26 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Always Learning wrote: > Thanks for the explanation. Now I know why locate never usually worked > for me - it hadn't updated. > > find is fast, especially when I restrict the search paths. But locate is faster still, in all but the smallest of cases. I'd only tend to use fin

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-26 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 09:58 -0500, Brian Mathis wrote: > You may not be aware of the "locate" command? Nightly there is a job > that runs (updatedb) that scans the disk and saves file locations. > Locate searches this database instead of you have to do a 'find'. The > only thing it won't get ar

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-26 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 05:37:48AM +, Always Learning wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 13:27 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > > > Surely you mean stuff from the rising sun Illumos and OpenIndiana! > > Nope. Not convinced by what I read about them. > > Still have my unused Open Solaris disk

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-26 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 14:25 -0800, Benjamin Smith wrote: > >> On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:20:34 am Always Learning wrote: >> > Then one day a big bad wolf called Oracle of very expensive Oracle SQL >> > fame swallowed Red Hat, like t

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-26 Thread Brian Mathis
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Always Learning wrote: [...] > .fs >        # /bin/bash >        find /data -iwholename *$1 >        find /ax -iwholename *$1 >        find /bx -iwholename *$1 >        find /cx -iwholename *$1 > > Obviously with the chmod +x.  The last one makes searching times mu

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-26 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 18:44 +1100, Les Bell wrote: > Paul, if you want a basic explanation of the rationale behind the Linux > Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, you might enjoy this article from a course I > wrote years ago - it's a little dated, but still applicable today. > > http://www.lesbell.c

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On >Behalf Of Brian Mathis >Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 7:03 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - >ATH9K disast

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
>-Original Message- >From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On >Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us >Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 7:00 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - >ATH9

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Les Bell
Always Learning wrote: >> Thanks for the good advice. I wondered why the installer gave those choices. Now it makes sense. All my production data resides on /data and I tend to leave the standard directories alone << Paul, if you want a basic explanation of the rationale behind the Linux Files

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 01:37 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 13:27 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > >> Surely you mean stuff from the rising sun Illumos and OpenIndiana! > > Nope. Not convinced by what I read about them. > > Still have my unused Open Solaris disks from

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 14:49 -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Benjamin Smith wrote: > > > On my hard disk, I have my /home, /boot, and / directories each on their > > own partitions, and when I'm upgrading my Fedora, I just format / and > /boot, > > and leave /home alone. Although I've transfered

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 13:29 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:41 PM, Barry Brimer wrote: > > My RHEL 6 machine (fully updated) has kernel 2.6.32-71.14.1. > Alright, that's it, I want Centos 6 now! Me too. Yes please Mr Centos. -- With best regards, Paul. Eng

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 21:29 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: > On 01/25/11 8:49 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > Cobol was the second language I leaned in 1967 from a hardware > > manufacturer's tutor who didn't have a clue. The first was Easycoder (an > > assembler type) which I loved. > do you mean a

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 13:27 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > Surely you mean stuff from the rising sun Illumos and OpenIndiana! Nope. Not convinced by what I read about them. Still have my unused Open Solaris disks from 2008.05 and my single CD of Red Hat Linux v.6 from 1999. :-) -- With be

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:41 PM, Barry Brimer wrote: > Quoting Always Learning: > >> >> On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 13:12 -0500, Robert Heller wrote: >> >>> At Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:49:39 + CentOS mailing list >> wrote: >> Anyone any idea what kernel version Centos 6 will have ? > > My RHE

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread John R Pierce
On 01/25/11 8:49 PM, Always Learning wrote: > Cobol was the second language I leaned in 1967 from a hardware > manufacturer's tutor who didn't have a clue. The first was Easycoder (an > assembler type) which I loved. do you mean autocoder? that was the 'assembler' on the IBM 1400 series _

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 11:55 AM, Always Learning wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 14:25 -0800, Benjamin Smith wrote: > >> On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:20:34 am Always Learning wrote: >>> Then one day a big bad wolf called Oracle of very expensive Oracle SQL >>> fame swallowed Red Hat, li

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, January 26, 2011 05:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On 1/25/2011 2:49 PM, Rob Kampen wrote: >> >> So what happens when one does the monthly tuesday patches for windoze >> and your security door controller running on SQLserver (micro$oft) >> fails. Back out all the patches - inform micro$

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 13:46 -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Always Learning wrote: > > > Thanks for the Ubuntu recommendation. I tend to buy the DVD's and > > install from them. I have VBox running Win98SE on a Centos desktop > > because I want to run software and applications from 1992 (my own

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Barry Brimer
Quoting Always Learning : > > On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 13:12 -0500, Robert Heller wrote: > > > At Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:49:39 + CentOS mailing list > wrote: > > > > Anyone any idea what kernel version Centos 6 will have ? My RHEL 6 machine (fully updated) has kernel 2.6.32-71.14.1. __

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 13:12 -0500, Robert Heller wrote: > At Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:49:39 + CentOS mailing list > wrote: > > Anyone any idea what kernel version Centos 6 will have ? > Probably whatever Fedora Core 12 (?) has. Whether this will work on > your friend's laptop is uncertain.

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 14:25 -0800, Benjamin Smith wrote: > On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:20:34 am Always Learning wrote: > > Then one day a big bad wolf called Oracle of very expensive Oracle SQL > > fame swallowed Red Hat, like they swallowed MySQL, Solaris, Open Office > > and Visual Box. Th

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Benjamin Smith
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:20:34 am Always Learning wrote: > Then one day a big bad wolf called Oracle of very expensive Oracle SQL > fame swallowed Red Hat, like they swallowed MySQL, Solaris, Open Office > and Visual Box. The long term future for these is uncertain. Whaaa...? Facts would s

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Max Hetrick
On 01/25/2011 03:49 PM, Rob Kampen wrote: > So what happens when one does the monthly tuesday patches for windoze > and your security door controller running on SQLserver (micro$oft) > fails. Back out all the patches - inform micro$oft - wait - wait some > more - never get a response - call the se

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Benjamin Smith
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 01:45:34 pm Always Learning wrote: > Give me the good old 6502 any day and its mainframe predecessor with a > 36 bit word which was 4 Ascii or 6 BCD characters. http://www.6502.org/tools/emu/ Done? -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread m . roth
Les Bell wrote: > Les Mikesell wrote: >>> > Running XP as a server??? > << > There are lots of bloatware Windows products which use MS SQL server as an > embedded database, Les. My personal favourite was the software for a TV > tuner card (Pinnacle) which used SQL Server to store its program sched

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 16:01 -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > processing power of a mid-nineties Cray supercomputer... and they run like > an 8088 (ok, maybe an 80286), just for all the eye candy: style, not > content. Give me the good old 6502 any day and its mainframe predecessor with a 36 bit

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Les Bell
Les Mikesell wrote: >> Running XP as a server??? << There are lots of bloatware Windows products which use MS SQL server as an embedded database, Les. My personal favourite was the software for a TV tuner card (Pinnacle) which used SQL Server to store its program schedule. Bloatware of the firs

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/25/2011 2:49 PM, Rob Kampen wrote: > > So what happens when one does the monthly tuesday patches for windoze > and your security door controller running on SQLserver (micro$oft) > fails. Back out all the patches - inform micro$oft - wait - wait some > more - never get a response - call the sec

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread m . roth
compdoc wrote: > My first 'real' computer was a Fat Mac, so I still love a good GUI. And > Windows has a nice GUI. Windows was ok. Oh, sorry, Windows 3.x. One reason I dispise Window (post 3.x) is the incredibly stupid design decision to put the GUI into ring 0. Something goes wrong with the GUI,

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread m . roth
Mark wrote: > On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:45 AM, wrote: > : >> * These notes brought to you in behalf of the Professional Organization >> of English Majors, who want to remind you that it's == it is, and is not >> the possessive whatchamacallit, "its", as in it's got a shoe on its foot. >> > So, "

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Mark
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 11:45 AM, wrote: : > * These notes brought to you in behalf of the Professional Organization of > English Majors, who want to remind you that it's == it is, and is not the > possessive whatchamacallit, "its", as in it's got a shoe on its foot. > So, "it is got a shoe on i

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Rob Kampen
Max Hetrick wrote: On 01/25/2011 03:04 PM, Brian Mathis wrote: I need to call you on this one. "Windozie" (implying some kind of decent user interface) and "stability" are not mutually exclusive, as your comment suggests. In the old days you may have had to choose, but that's long past. W

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Benjamin Smith
On Tuesday, January 25, 2011 12:21:35 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > I've got 7 on my work laptop, and my lady's got Vista at home. I *despise* > both of them: they do their best to hide what you need to do, if it's > anything other than looking at pictures, playing music, email, and web. > And, IMO,

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread compdoc
I do IT for local businesses in Denver. I build workstations and servers, do hardware upgrades, networking, VPNs, firewalls, virtual machines - anything a business might need. Windows and linux. Any tech worth his salt will have learned how windows works and how to repair it. It is possible to rep

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Don Krause
Windows CAN be plenty stable... I used a very stable windows box just like this one this morning! http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19991001 On Jan 25, 2011, at 12:23 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > compdoc wrote: >> Any version of Windows is stable - its only when ppl start adding the >>

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Max Hetrick
On 01/25/2011 03:04 PM, Brian Mathis wrote: > I need to call you on this one. "Windozie" (implying some kind of > decent user interface) and "stability" are not mutually exclusive, as > your comment suggests. In the old days you may have had to choose, > but that's long past. Windows 7 is very

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread m . roth
compdoc wrote: > Any version of Windows is stable - its only when ppl start adding the > pretty > butterfly screen savers, or open email attachments that things go wrong. > > It is very vulnerable, especially IE, but with a little education, > preventive steps, and decent backups, the majority of b

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread m . roth
Gene Brandt wrote: > On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 15:04 -0500, Brian Mathis wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Gene Brandt >> wrote: >> > >> > Chiming in I find CentOs VERY stable. I need this for my User >> community (Wife and Daughter) It has to look and work the same always. >> For the new peo

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread compdoc
Any version of Windows is stable - its only when ppl start adding the pretty butterfly screen savers, or open email attachments that things go wrong. It is very vulnerable, especially IE, but with a little education, preventive steps, and decent backups, the majority of businesses in the world tha

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:45:44 -0500 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > Always Learning wrote: > > Mark Roth wrote: > > > >> You do understand the relationship of CentOS to RHEL, right? > > > > Right :-) > > > > Once upon a time Red Hat was free. Then they decided to exist purely on > > Actually, yo

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Gene Brandt
Where did I say that! "From what I remember it had a Windozie feel" In MY opinion ( only an opinion) Winblows will never be stable. -- Thanks, Gene Brandt SCSA 8625 Carriage Road River Ridge, LA 70123 home 504-737-4295 cell 504-452-3250 Family Web Page | My Web Page | LinkedIn | Facebook

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Gene Brandt wrote: > > Chiming in I find CentOs VERY stable. I need this for my User community (Wife > and Daughter) It has to look and work the same always. For the new people to > Linux I've noted that NT admins can very easily install ubuntu and get it > runn

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Keith Roberts
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > To: CentOS mailing list > From: m.r...@5-cent.us > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K > disaster > > Always Learning wrote: > >> After 8 hours on Saturday I coul

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread m . roth
Benjamin Smith wrote: > On my hard disk, I have my /home, /boot, and / directories each on their > own partitions, and when I'm upgrading my Fedora, I just format / and /boot, > and leave /home alone. Although I've transfered it a few times between hard Yep. ALWAYS have /home on its own partition

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote: > Mark Roth wrote: > >> You do understand the relationship of CentOS to RHEL, right? > > Right :-) > > Once upon a time Red Hat was free. Then they decided to exist purely on Actually, you were supposed to buy the CDs, which I did (I really suppose I can get rid of my 5.2, 6

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Benjamin Smith
For years, I've been using Fedora Core for my desktop/laptop systems and CentOS for my servers. It's a good balance, because upgrading Fedora Core takes about an hour or so, plus a day or two of occasional interruptions to shake out various drivers and stuff. Also, I don't have to keep two diffe

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Gene Brandt
Chiming in I find CentOs VERY stable. I need this for my User community (Wife and Daughter) It has to look and work the same always. For the new people to Linux I've noted that NT admins can very easily install ubuntu and get it running (for awhile). From what I remember it had a Windozie feel. Com

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
Mark Roth wrote: > You do understand the relationship of CentOS to RHEL, right? Right :-) Once upon a time Red Hat was free. Then they decided to exist purely on support fees. Meanwhile a bunch of supporters invented a downstream variant called Centos. They worked very hard to remove all the Re

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote: > Thanks for the Ubuntu recommendation. I tend to buy the DVD's and > install from them. I have VBox running Win98SE on a Centos desktop > because I want to run software and applications from 1992 (my own DOS > Cobol database) which also runs in DosBox, 1993 (my customised A

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/25/2011 12:18 PM, Always Learning wrote: > >> An alternative I've used is to install VMware Workstation on top of >> Windows and install Linux into a VM. Running fullscreen the practical >> difference is nil. Then you by and large get the laptop hardware support >> gratis from the windows laye

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
Brian Mathis wrote: > CentOS is great for servers, I agree. I have 2 VPS and two desktop servers on it. > but absolutely not for a new person > you're trying to get to try Linux. This approach actually hurts Linux > since people think "oh I tried Linux and it sucked". The only thing that 'su

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote: > Mark wrote:- > >> About 5 years ago, I had to install a wireless card in my tower, and >> it's an ATH9xx, I *think* - I can check this evening, if that's relevant. I >> was running SuSE, and had to find drivers from madwifi. A few minutes of >> googling found... >>

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
Jerry Franz wrote: > For a new laptop your best hope for a successful native install is > probably Ubuntu 10.10. Laptops in particular are difficult platforms for > hardware support and CentOS5 is not 'cutting edge'. If you want CentOS > on it to work well, you will probably need to wait for C

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:49:39 + CentOS mailing list wrote: > > > I persuaded a reluctant friend to buy a new computer. I enthusiastically > extolled the joys and benefits of Centos and promised to install it on > his new machine - dual booting with Micro$oft Windoze 7. > > His super-duper

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
Mark wrote:- > About 5 years ago, I had to install a wireless card in my tower, and it's > an ATH9xx, I *think* - I can check this evening, if that's relevant. I was > running SuSE, and had to find drivers from madwifi. A few minutes of > googling found... >

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Brian Mathis
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > I persuaded a reluctant friend to buy a new computer. I enthusiastically > extolled the joys and benefits of Centos and promised to install it on > his new machine - dual booting with Micro$oft Windoze 7. > > His super-duper new laptop a

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote: > After 8 hours on Saturday I could sometimes see hubs in the > neighbourhood but could not connect to my own hub using WPA2. > > iwlist wlan0 scan > > produced technical details of local hubs - but still could not connect. > NetworkManager sometimes froze. > > Spent m

Re: [CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Jerry Franz
On 01/25/2011 09:49 AM, Always Learning wrote: > I persuaded a reluctant friend to buy a new computer. I enthusiastically > extolled the joys and benefits of Centos and promised to install it on > his new machine - dual booting with Micro$oft Windoze 7. [...] For a new laptop your best hope for a

[CentOS] Recommendation for a Linux alternative to Centos - ATH9K disaster

2011-01-25 Thread Always Learning
I persuaded a reluctant friend to buy a new computer. I enthusiastically extolled the joys and benefits of Centos and promised to install it on his new machine - dual booting with Micro$oft Windoze 7. His super-duper new laptop arrived. Acer, AMD 4 core, fast etc. but not as nice looking as my im