Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-12-05 Thread Amos Shapira
On 06/12/2007, Matt Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I could probably bet you that you doing this on VM's is what's causing > the problem. Grab some cheap old hardware and try setting this up on > real machines. It will work. The problem is that we don't have spare hardware lying around (we

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-12-05 Thread Matt Shields
On Dec 5, 2007 5:23 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 06/12/2007, Dave Augustus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you can try with non-Xen kernels, you should get better results. > > Does this mean that you tried Xen kernels and DomU and it failed, then > switched to non-Xen kernels

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-12-05 Thread Amos Shapira
On 06/12/2007, Ross Cavanagh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sure you've done this, but did you install kmod-drbd-xen ? I had > missed installing this when trying to run drbd with heartbeat v2 under > xen the first time I was testing it. Yes it's installed :) I got DRBD up and running in no time

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-12-05 Thread Ross Cavanagh
Amos Shapira wrote: On 06/12/2007, Dave Augustus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you can try with non-Xen kernels, you should get better results. Does this mean that you tried Xen kernels and DomU and it failed, then switched to non-Xen kernels on the same setup and it succeeded? Thanks

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-12-05 Thread Amos Shapira
On 06/12/2007, Dave Augustus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you can try with non-Xen kernels, you should get better results. Does this mean that you tried Xen kernels and DomU and it failed, then switched to non-Xen kernels on the same setup and it succeeded? Thanks, --Amos

RE: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-12-02 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Amos Shapira wrote: > > On 02/12/2007, Dave Augustus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We are in the middle of migrating to a new colo and I first > heard about > > Cluster Suite with the release of 5. > > > > Our old colo used 2 different 2-node clusters using > hearbeat version 1. We had > > a 2-

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-12-02 Thread Amos Shapira
On 02/12/2007, Dave Augustus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We are in the middle of migrating to a new colo and I first heard about > Cluster Suite with the release of 5. > > Our old colo used 2 different 2-node clusters using hearbeat version 1. We had > a 2-node cluster in Active/passive for the LV

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-12-01 Thread Dave Augustus
On Friday 30 November 2007, Amos Shapira wrote: > Hello, > > I'm beginning to give up on making Linux-HA's heartbeat work for my > environment (CentOS x86_64) and am wondering what other option have I got > to help me: > 1. Use IPVS to maintain a cluster of virtual servers, either master/slave > or

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 30/11/2007, Matt Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Take Xen out of the picture until you learn how heartbeat and > ipvsadm/ldirectord actually work. You could be having network issues > because you are hosting it on a virtual server instead of on a real > server. So it's kinda hard to troub

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Matt Shields
On Nov 30, 2007 6:53 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 30/11/2007, Matt Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Take Xen out of the picture until you learn how heartbeat and > > ipvsadm/ldirectord actually work. You could be having network issues > > because you are hosting it on a v

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Matt Shields
On Nov 30, 2007 6:40 PM, Matt Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 30, 2007 6:28 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 30/11/2007, Matt Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > LVS is a group of tools that do a lot of different things, the two > > > that you are interested in

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Matt Shields
On Nov 30, 2007 6:28 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 30/11/2007, Matt Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > LVS is a group of tools that do a lot of different things, the two > > that you are interested in are: > > > > - heartbeat - provides failover if you have two nodes (active/

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 30/11/2007, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What isn't working with heartbeat? Basically it just doesn't start properly on the secondary node. I describe all my trials and tribulations in the following thread on Linux-HA Users: http://lists.linux-ha.org/pipermail/linux-ha/2007-N

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 30/11/2007, Matt Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > LVS is a group of tools that do a lot of different things, the two > that you are interested in are: > > - heartbeat - provides failover if you have two nodes (active/active > or active/passive) > - ipvsadm/ldirectord - provides load balancin

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 30/11/2007, John R Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Matt Shields wrote: > > With a GUI that actually makes it more difficult to manage. Learn to > use the command line tools and config files, it's so much easier. > > > > > then why in Gaea's name did they make the heartbeat config files

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 30/11/2007, Matt Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 30, 2007 3:57 PM, John R Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Matt Shields wrote: > > > Dump the cluste suite and use the LinuxVirtualServer.org packages. > > > > isn't that heartbeat and stuff repackaged? > > > > With a GUI that actu

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 30/11/2007, Matt Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yup. We use LVS for all types of failover senarios. We use it for > redundant firewall/vpn servers which use heartbeat for failing over So you are using the same heartbeat that doesn't work for me? Or are you refering to another package wh

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Matt Shields
On Nov 30, 2007 4:12 PM, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John R Pierce wrote: > > > > Matt Shields wrote: > > > Dump the cluste suite and use the LinuxVirtualServer.org packages. > > > > isn't that heartbeat and stuff repackaged? > > Visiting the web site it appears to be a load-bala

RE: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Robert - elists
then why in Gaea's name . gaea? whoa nellie, I got first dibs on preaching Jesus here ;-> Get in line. :-) - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread John R Pierce
Matt Shields wrote: With a GUI that actually makes it more difficult to manage. Learn to use the command line tools and config files, it's so much easier. then why in Gaea's name did they make the heartbeat config files XML ??   while XML -can- be human read, its a freekin' mess t

RE: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
John R Pierce wrote: > > Matt Shields wrote: > > Dump the cluste suite and use the LinuxVirtualServer.org packages. > > isn't that heartbeat and stuff repackaged? Visiting the web site it appears to be a load-balancer, not that that wouldn't be useful in some scenarios, but it isn't really "clus

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Matt Shields
On Nov 30, 2007 3:57 PM, John R Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt Shields wrote: > > Dump the cluste suite and use the LinuxVirtualServer.org packages. > > isn't that heartbeat and stuff repackaged? > With a GUI that actually makes it more difficult to manage. Learn to use the command line

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread John R Pierce
Matt Shields wrote: Dump the cluste suite and use the LinuxVirtualServer.org packages. isn't that heartbeat and stuff repackaged? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Matt Shields
On Nov 30, 2007 3:21 PM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 30/11/2007, Matt Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dump the cluste suite and use the LinuxVirtualServer.org packages. > > You won't have a gui, but it will be better in the long run. We're > > using that for quite a few clu

RE: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Amos Shapira wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm beginning to give up on making Linux-HA's heartbeat work > for my environment (CentOS x86_64) and am wondering what > other option have I got to help me: > 1. Use IPVS to maintain a cluster of virtual servers, either > master/slave or load-balanced. > 2.

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Amos Shapira
On 30/11/2007, Matt Shields <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dump the cluste suite and use the LinuxVirtualServer.org packages. > You won't have a gui, but it will be better in the long run. We're > using that for quite a few clusters and handling about 30MBit/s on > each of the clusters, I think it's

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread John R Pierce
Amos Shapira wrote: Hello, I'm beginning to give up on making Linux-HA's heartbeat work for my environment (CentOS x86_64) and am wondering what other option have I got to help me: 1. Use IPVS to maintain a cluster of virtual servers, either master/slave or load-balanced. 2. Use DRBD in maste

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Matt Shields
On Nov 30, 2007 4:30 AM, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm beginning to give up on making Linux-HA's heartbeat work for my > environment (CentOS x86_64) and am wondering what other option have I got to > help me: > 1. Use IPVS to maintain a cluster of virtual servers, either

Re: [CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Robert Slade
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 09:30 +, Amos Shapira wrote: > Hello, > > I'm beginning to give up on making Linux-HA's heartbeat work for my > environment (CentOS x86_64) and am wondering what other option have I > got to help me: > 1. Use IPVS to maintain a cluster of virtual servers, either > master/

[CentOS] Replacement for Linux-HA (heartbeat) - RedHat cluster?

2007-11-30 Thread Amos Shapira
Hello, I'm beginning to give up on making Linux-HA's heartbeat work for my environment (CentOS x86_64) and am wondering what other option have I got to help me: 1. Use IPVS to maintain a cluster of virtual servers, either master/slave or load-balanced. 2. Use DRBD in master/slave fashion to keep a