Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-05 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Friday 03 December 2010 21:13:37 Keith Roberts wrote: ... Having made regular backups to the hard drive, I then as I feel is appropriate, make CD/DVD backups from the backup drive. Just be careful with CD/DVDs since data quality and persistence over time is questionable. /Peter I've

[CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread Keith Roberts
There was a similar thread about which is the best FS for Centos. I'm using ext3, and wondered if XFS would be more 'data safe' than ext3. I had a 100GiB ext3 partition, and it took up 1.75GiB for FS administration purposes. I reformatted it to XFS, and it only used 50.8MB! I now have a

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread Peter Kjellström
On Friday 03 December 2010 13:55:28 Keith Roberts wrote: There was a similar thread about which is the best FS for Centos. I'm using ext3, and wondered if XFS would be more 'data safe' than ext3. 'data safe' is certainly not something easy to define. Short answer: no XFS is not better than

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread Rainer Traut
Am 03.12.2010 13:55, schrieb Keith Roberts: There was a similar thread about which is the best FS for Centos. I'm using ext3, and wondered if XFS would be more 'data safe' than ext3. I had a 100GiB ext3 partition, and it took up 1.75GiB for FS administration purposes. I reformatted it to

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 14:20 +0100, Peter Kjellström wrote: On Friday 03 December 2010 13:55:28 Keith Roberts wrote: There was a similar thread about which is the best FS for Centos. I'm using ext3, and wondered if XFS would be more 'data safe' than ext3. 'data safe' is certainly not

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread cpolish
On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 08:31:12AM -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 14:20 +0100, Peter Kjellström wrote: On Friday 03 December 2010 13:55:28 Keith Roberts wrote: There was a similar thread about which is the best FS for Centos. I'm using ext3, and wondered if

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread Akemi Yagi
2010/12/3 Peter Kjellström c...@nsc.liu.se: What about the XFS admin tools - do these get installed when you format a partition as XFS from anaconda, or are they a seperate rpm package, installed later? They are in a separate rpm (xfsprogs, repository: extras). There is a good chance that

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 3, 2010, at 9:25 AM, cpol...@surewest.net wrote: On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 08:31:12AM -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 14:20 +0100, Peter Kjellström wrote: On Friday 03 December 2010 13:55:28 Keith Roberts wrote: There was a similar thread about which is the best

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread Matty
On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Keith Roberts ke...@karsites.net wrote: There was a similar thread about which is the best FS for Centos. I'm using ext3, and wondered if XFS would be more 'data safe' than ext3. If your work load doesn't dictate the use of XFS, I would personally stick with

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread John Jasen
From personal experience, the last three times I ran XFS on large volumes (4+ TB), they all became irrecoverably corrupted in some way or another. The final occasion resulted in XFS being permanently banned from that establishment. -- -- John E. Jasen (jja...@realityfailure.org) -- Deserve

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread Keith Roberts
Thanks to everyone that answered, for all the replies to my questions about XFS. I've taken note of the points raised, and gone with ext3 for now (again). I do have a backup strategy in place, and you can use my PHP script from here, if you like it:

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/3/2010 2:08 PM, John Jasen wrote: From personal experience, the last three times I ran XFS on large volumes (4+ TB), they all became irrecoverably corrupted in some way or another. The final occasion resulted in XFS being permanently banned from that establishment. Was this on 32-bit

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/3/2010 2:13 PM, Keith Roberts wrote: Thanks to everyone that answered, for all the replies to my questions about XFS. I've taken note of the points raised, and gone with ext3 for now (again). I do have a backup strategy in place, and you can use my PHP script from here, if you like

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread John Jasen
On 12/03/2010 03:16 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: Was this on 32-bit RH/Centos where the 4k stacks are a known problem for XFS? Both 32 and 64 bit kernels. -- -- John E. Jasen (jja...@realityfailure.org) -- Deserve Victory. -- Terry Goodkind, Naked Empire

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/03/10 12:25 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: Whenever anyone mentions backups, I like to plug the backuppc program (http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/index.html and packaged in EPEL). It uses compression and hardlinks all duplicate files to keep much more history than you'd expect on line with a

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/3/2010 2:51 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 12/03/10 12:25 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: Whenever anyone mentions backups, I like to plug the backuppc program (http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/index.html and packaged in EPEL). It uses compression and hardlinks all duplicate files to keep much more

Re: [CentOS] XFS or EXT3 ?

2010-12-03 Thread Warren Young
On 12/3/2010 6:20 AM, Peter Kjellström wrote: What about the XFS admin tools - do these get installed when you format a partition as XFS from anaconda, or are they a seperate rpm package, installed later? They are in a separate rpm (xfsprogs, repository: extras). On that topic, there are