On Feb 7, 2012, at 2:35 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Craig White wrote:
>>
>> puppet manifests won't expire because of changes in ruby rather because of
>> changes in puppet but a startup at this point should be fine for many years
>> as the path forward seems pre
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 07, 2012 04:35:29 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
>> If today's and
>> yesterday's version of a language have to be different they were
>> probably both wrong.
>
> Like Python2.x versus 3.x? Or even 2.4 versus 2.6? Plone, for one, i
On Tuesday, February 07, 2012 04:35:29 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
> If today's and
> yesterday's version of a language have to be different they were
> probably both wrong.
Like Python2.x versus 3.x? Or even 2.4 versus 2.6? Plone, for one, is still
bundling older Python due to incompatibilities wit
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Craig White wrote:
>
> puppet manifests won't expire because of changes in ruby rather because of
> changes in puppet but a startup at this point should be fine for many years
> as the path forward seems pretty well defined.
Does it keep a self-contained library
On Feb 7, 2012, at 2:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Ruby seems like the only thing that might be worse than python in
> terms of long-term version incompatibilities and installation
> problems, although python is sort-of a special case on RH systems
> since the install tools need it. I think somet
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Craig White wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm actually very interested in this, but puppet did not look like the
>> right architecture. http://saltstack.org/ might not be quite ready
>> for prime time but it looks like a very reasonable design. The python
>> dependencies are pr
On Feb 7, 2012, at 12:38 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Craig White wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> If it is possible to abstract the differences, perhaps you aren't
>>> using all the new features and didn't have to upgrade after all...
>>
>> I suppose that if you believe tha
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Craig White wrote:
>
>>
>> If it is possible to abstract the differences, perhaps you aren't
>> using all the new features and didn't have to upgrade after all...
>
> I suppose that if you believe that, then you are suffering from a lack of
> imagination. I ca
On Feb 7, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Craig White wrote:
>>
>>> For this reason it is often better to upgrade more frequently then every
>>> 7-10 years. Personally I have a 5 year max lifetime for my systems. Even
>>> then upgrades are painful and
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Craig White wrote:
>
>> For this reason it is often better to upgrade more frequently then every
>> 7-10 years. Personally I have a 5 year max lifetime for my systems. Even
>> then upgrades are painful and we try to stagger these so they all aren't due
>> to upg
On Feb 7, 2012, at 8:07 AM, Ross Walker wrote:
> On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
>> The purpose for having enterprise software is so that you can get a
>> return on your investment and use your code for 7 years (for CentOS
>> versions before CentOS-4 ... now 10 years in post
On Feb 7, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> The purpose for having enterprise software is so that you can get a
> return on your investment and use your code for 7 years (for CentOS
> versions before CentOS-4 ... now 10 years in post CentOS-5). But
> keeping things for that period of time
On 02/07/2012 06:39 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
> On 02/07/2012 07:04 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In http://goo.gl/Krjfh I read:
>>
>> +++
>> Upgrading from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5:
>> We recommend everyone run through a reinstall rather than
On 02/07/2012 07:04 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> In http://goo.gl/Krjfh I read:
>
> +++
> Upgrading from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5:
> We recommend everyone run through a reinstall rather than attempt an
> inplace upgrade from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5
>
Hi all,
In http://goo.gl/Krjfh I read:
+++
Upgrading from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5:
We recommend everyone run through a reinstall rather than attempt an
inplace upgrade from CentOS-4 or CentOS-5
+++
Do you ever now if that advice will be up to d
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