Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-03-02 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 02/25/2013 07:48 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I want to control when and what gets updated. First I have to determine that

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:31 PM, David Hrbáč david-li...@hrbac.cz wrote: Hi, We update all the boxes over ssh. Works fine. Those who are afraid of disconnections may always run it within tmux/screen session. As to managing the whole infra, the best tool for that is Spacewalk, but it might

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-27 Thread m . roth
Les Mikesell wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:31 PM, David Hrbáč david-li...@hrbac.cz wrote: Hi, We update all the boxes over ssh. Works fine. Those who are afraid of disconnections may always run it within tmux/screen session. As to managing the whole infra, the best tool for that is

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-27 Thread SilverTip257
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 12:31 AM, David Hrbáč david-li...@hrbac.cz wrote: Dne 25.2.2013 14:48, Robert Moskowitz napsal(a): I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates;

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-26 Thread James B. Byrne
On Mon, February 25, 2013 09:03, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: On 02/25/2013 02:48 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I want to

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-26 Thread Harold Pritchett
On 2/25/2013 9:03 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: On 02/25/2013 02:48 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I want to control when and

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-26 Thread David Hrbáč
Dne 25.2.2013 14:48, Robert Moskowitz napsal(a): I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I want to control when and what gets updated. First I have to determine

[CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I want to control when and what gets updated. First I have to determine that a particular server needs updates. I suppose a

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 02/25/2013 02:48 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I want to control when and what gets updated. First I have to determine

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Mike Burger
Then there is the actual update. I learned long ago NOT to run yum over an SSH connection, as WHEN that connection breaks in the middle of an update, you can have quite a problem to clean up. All I have done todate is to start vncserver and connect via vnc to then run yum. I can even drop

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread m . roth
Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I want to control when and what gets updated. Yeah, prod servers are nasty that way. You always want to

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/25/2013 09:03 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 25.02.2013 14:48, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I want to control when and what

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread m . roth
Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/25/2013 09:03 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 25.02.2013 14:48, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I want

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/25/2013 09:56 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I want to control when and what gets updated. Yeah,

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/25/2013 10:00 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/25/2013 09:03 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 25.02.2013 14:48, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/25/2013 09:03 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: On 02/25/2013 02:48 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: So redirect the output into a file and when the return code is 100 mail that file to the admin. Then there is the actual update. I learned long ago NOT to run yum over an SSH connection, as

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Phil Gardner
On 02/25/2013 08:48 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I want to control when and what gets updated. First I have to determine

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: Then there is the actual update. I learned long ago NOT to run yum over an SSH connection, as WHEN that connection breaks in the middle of an update, you can have quite a problem to clean up. All I have done That

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I | am | looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I | don't | want automatic updates; I want to control when and what gets updated. | | First I have to determine that a

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:41 AM, James A. Peltier jpelt...@sfu.ca wrote: This is where you need something like Katello or Spacewalk. These are management systems which look after managing your infrastructure in such a way that you can view what servers are out of compliance and what

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/25/2013 12:50 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:41 AM, James A. Peltier jpelt...@sfu.ca wrote: This is where you need something like Katello or Spacewalk. These are management systems which look after managing your infrastructure in such a way that you can view what

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I want to control when and what gets updated.

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: Let's see. I have 4 productions servers: DNS, web, mail, and samba; with samba locked up on a private net. Only DNS is current, the rest are work in progress. I just built my test DNS, which will make the rest

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/25/2013 01:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't want automatic updates; I

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: Keep in mind that to _not_ install an update, you have to know more than the RH engineers about the code. I usually assume they had a good reason for going to the trouble of shipping it and that they would have

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread m . roth
Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 02/25/2013 01:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com wrote: I have read a couple old threads here on updates for servers, and I am looking for some mechanics to getting the actual updates done. I don't

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 02/25/2013 02:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 25.02.2013 19:35, schrieb Robert Moskowitz: For example, an apache update MAY require that I first check what it will do to http.conf. NOT ON RHEL/CENTOS there are no major upgrades with changing API/ABI/Config that is why it is called

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 25.02.2013 15:56, schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Then there is the actual update. I learned long ago NOT to run yum over an SSH connection, as WHEN that connection breaks in the middle of an update, you can have quite a problem to clean up. All I have done That

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Nathan Duehr
On Feb 25, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Tilman Schmidt t.schm...@phoenixsoftware.de wrote: Am 25.02.2013 15:56, schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Then there is the actual update. I learned long ago NOT to run yum over an SSH connection, as WHEN that connection breaks in the middle

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Tilman Schmidt t.schm...@phoenixsoftware.de wrote: That sounds, to me, as though you have very serious communications issues that need to be solved, and yesterday. We've used ssh here, and at my previous two? three? contracts, for years, and almost *never* have

Re: [CentOS] running yum update on remote servers

2013-02-25 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 25.02.2013 23:36, schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 25.02.2013 23:34, schrieb Tilman Schmidt: Am 25.02.2013 15:56, schrieb m.r...@5-cent.us: Robert Moskowitz wrote: Then there is the actual update. I learned long ago NOT to run yum over an SSH connection, as WHEN that connection breaks in the