On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 07:44:21AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> > The issue here really isn't systemd or the PrivateTmp feature but the
>> > fact that some applications don't properly distinguish between temporary
>> > files and data files.
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 08:52:16PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Mostly I'm interested in avoiding surprises and having code that isn't
> married to the weirdness of any particular version of any particular
> distribution. And I found this to be pretty surprising, given that I
That's always diffic
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 07:44:21AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> > The issue here really isn't systemd or the PrivateTmp feature but the
> > fact that some applications don't properly distinguish between temporary
> > files and data files.
> Maybe, but if an application wants a private directory for
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:58 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
wrote:
> >>
>> No, systemd actually remaps /tmp from apache - and apparently most
>> other daemons - to private directories below /tmp with configs as
>> shipped. The command line tool wrote the file to /tmp as expected.
>> The perl code run
On 16.04.2015 04:15, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
>> On 4/15/2015 6:52 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>>
>>> Mostly I'm interested in avoiding surprises and having code that isn't
>>> married to the weirdness of any particular version of any particular
>>>
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
> On 4/15/2015 6:52 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>
>> Mostly I'm interested in avoiding surprises and having code that isn't
>> married to the weirdness of any particular version of any particular
>> distribution. And I found this to be pretty sur
On 4/15/2015 6:52 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
Mostly I'm interested in avoiding surprises and having code that isn't
married to the weirdness of any particular version of any particular
distribution. And I found this to be pretty surprising, given that I
could see the file in /tmp and could read the
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 05:31:52PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> Thanks - I can see how those would work once you understand what is
>> broken on the target system and why, but is there a way that programs
>> 'should' be written to run with/
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 05:31:52PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Thanks - I can see how those would work once you understand what is
> broken on the target system and why, but is there a way that programs
> 'should' be written to run with/without systemd? That just happened
> to be the first thing
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 04:15:23PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> > Why does this directory have to be /tmp rather than a specific
>> > directory belonging to twiki?
>> Twiki is a perl web application run under apache. It doesn't have its
>>
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 04:15:23PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> > Why does this directory have to be /tmp rather than a specific
> > directory belonging to twiki?
> Twiki is a perl web application run under apache. It doesn't have its
> own uid. It doesn't 'have' to be anywhere in particular but
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 03:55:34PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
>> Is there a generic way that processes written to share files with
>> (say) apache in /tmp can figure out that they are running on an OS
>> with systemd and in that case, where
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 03:55:34PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
> Is there a generic way that processes written to share files with
> (say) apache in /tmp can figure out that they are running on an OS
> with systemd and in that case, where the daemon in question thinks
> /tmp is?
>
> For example, tw
Is there a generic way that processes written to share files with
(say) apache in /tmp can figure out that they are running on an OS
with systemd and in that case, where the daemon in question thinks
/tmp is?
For example, twiki has a backup/restore add-in where the backup part
is normally done fro
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