Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-30 Thread Shaun
On 30/04/2012 02:20, Spiro Harvey wrote: Shaun cen...@stinkfish.org wrote: I just need to be really careful about the remove command in future. I've found that breaking things is always the fastest path to a great education. I'd certainly agree with that :)

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-29 Thread Spiro Harvey
Shaun cen...@stinkfish.org wrote: I just need to be really careful about the remove command in future. I've found that breaking things is always the fastest path to a great education. -- Spiro Harvey Knossos Networks Ltd (04) 460-2531 : (021) 295-1923

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread Shaun
On 26/04/2012 22:08, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: (snip) yum history list yum history info number given transaction and yum history undo yum history redo, ... ... Well this is it. I've used both 'remove' and 'history undo' and had better success (system not having something important

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread Jason Pyeron
-Original Message- From: Shaun Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 4:15 On 26/04/2012 22:08, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: (snip) yum history list yum history info number given transaction and yum history undo yum history redo, ... ... Well this is it. I've used both

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread Shaun
On 27/04/2012 12:24, Jason Pyeron wrote: Are you saying that you had the applet in the gnome panel prior to installing the network manager rpm and then when you removed the network manager rpm (via yum) it yanked the applet too? If so which version of Centos and which version of network

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Shaun cen...@stinkfish.org wrote: On 27/04/2012 12:24, Jason Pyeron wrote: Are you saying that you had the applet in the gnome panel prior to installing the network manager rpm and then when you removed the network manager rpm (via yum) it yanked the applet

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread Shaun
On 27/04/2012 14:05, Les Mikesell wrote: What did you expect: Removing for dependencies: NetworkManager-gnome meant before you confirmed the yum action? Well if that was what was presented to me as an action then I obviously need to be more vigilant! :) In fact I had similar issues

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/27/2012 08:26 AM, Shaun wrote: On 27/04/2012 14:05, Les Mikesell wrote: What did you expect: Removing for dependencies: NetworkManager-gnome meant before you confirmed the yum action? Well if that was what was presented to me as an action then I obviously need to be more

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread Markku Kolkka
27.4.2012 16:26, Shaun kirjoitti: But then the reason why I didn't pay as much attention in the first place is because I *assumed that only that removed-pacakage and dependencies brought in by it at the install-time would be removed via a yum remove. So the real problem is that you don't

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread m . roth
Markku Kolkka wrote: 27.4.2012 16:26, Shaun kirjoitti: But then the reason why I didn't pay as much attention in the first place is because I *assumed that only that removed-pacakage and dependencies brought in by it at the install-time would be removed via a yum remove. So the real

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/27/2012 09:03 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Markku Kolkka wrote: 27.4.2012 16:26, Shaun kirjoitti: But then the reason why I didn't pay as much attention in the first place is because I *assumed that only that removed-pacakage and dependencies brought in by it at the install-time would be

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread Shaun
On 27/04/2012 14:56, Markku Kolkka wrote: So the real problem is that you don't understand the directionality of dependencies. Almost certainly :) yum install packagename installs packagename + anything that packagename requires. yum remove packagename removes packagename + anything that

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread m . roth
Johnny Hughes wrote: On 04/27/2012 09:03 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Markku Kolkka wrote: snip For example, let's have three packages A, B, and C where B requires A and C requires B: A-B-C yum install C will install all three packages. yum remove C would remove only C. yum remove B would

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread James B. Byrne
On Fri, April 27, 2012 04:15, Shaun wrote: Well this is it. I've used both 'remove' and 'history undo' and had better success (system not having something important removed) with the latter. I have only this suspicion. It may be that yum history undo only rolls back the changes actually made

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-27 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 04/27/2012 04:49 PM, Shaun wrote: On 27/04/2012 14:56, Markku Kolkka wrote: So the real problem is that you don't understand the directionality of dependencies. Almost certainly :) yum install packagename installs packagename + anything that packagename requires. yum remove packagename

[CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-26 Thread Shaun
Hi all, I'm a bit of a newbie to CentOS though not Linux in general. I come from an apt-get package management mentality and I've had a few issues where package management actions haven't quite done what I'd expect. So I'm guessing it's user error! :) I installed GNOME and then decided that I

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-26 Thread m . roth
Shaun wrote: Hi all, I'm a bit of a newbie to CentOS though not Linux in general. I come from an apt-get package management mentality and I've had a few issues where package management actions haven't quite done what I'd expect. So I'm guessing it's user error! :) Personally, having

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Shaun cen...@stinkfish.org wrote: Hi all, I'm a bit of a newbie to CentOS though not Linux in general. I come from an apt-get package management mentality and I've had a few issues where package management actions haven't quite done what I'd expect. So I'm

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-26 Thread Shaun
On 26/04/2012 15:58, Les Mikesell wrote: You can't really generalize about that. Yum just does what the dependencies of the rpm packages you install or remove tell it to do. A yum groupinstall 'GNOME Desktop Environment' might bring back anything that is missing. Well I was kinda

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-26 Thread Jason Pyeron
-Original Message- From: Shaun Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:34 On 26/04/2012 15:58, Les Mikesell wrote: You can't really generalize about that. Yum just does what the dependencies of the rpm packages you install or remove tell it to do. A yum groupinstall 'GNOME

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-26 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Shaun cen...@stinkfish.org wrote: You can't really generalize about that.  Yum just does what the dependencies of the rpm packages you install or remove tell it to do.  A yum groupinstall 'GNOME Desktop Environment' might bring back anything  that is missing.

Re: [CentOS] yum yum or not?

2012-04-26 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 04/26/2012 05:45 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote: -Original Message- From: Shaun Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 11:34 On 26/04/2012 15:58, Les Mikesell wrote: You can't really generalize about that. Yum just does what the dependencies of the rpm packages you install or remove tell it