On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, James Bunnell wrote:
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 09:57 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
James Bunnell wrote:
If this is a problem, I suggest that you find a paid for service
contract where you can be rude to the people with whom you interact.
i do pay for rhel. i made the mistake o
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 09:01 -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
>
> This is open source etiquette. It differs from business etiquette
> where you are more than welcoem to berate and yell and holler about
> things because you're paying someone a lot of money.
Respectfully, when I was doing this profess
Jim Perrin wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >
> >> 2. You can not be a ass on our IRC channels, or on our mailing lists.
> >
> > I object to your language on the list!
> >
> > You MUST use the word "an" as a prepositio
I think we've fed the troll enough for this month.
Anne
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On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Ross S. W. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
>> 2. You can not be a ass on our IRC channels, or on our mailing lists.
>
> I object to your language on the list!
>
> You MUST use the word "an" as a preposition to a noun beginning with a vowel!
Johnny Hughes wrote:
> 2. You can not be a ass on our IRC channels, or on our mailing lists.
I object to your language on the list!
You MUST use the word "an" as a preposition to a noun beginning with a vowel!
What is this world coming to!
-Ross
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James Bunnell wrote:
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 09:19 -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
i have a little familiarity with open source, perhaps more than noted,
and i what i am seeing here is centos saying that since we're not paid,
we dont care. i think there are many projects that would not want thi
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 09:52 -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
> Frame your questions and reactions with these things in mind, develop a
> bit thicker skin. Run everything said by a developer type through the
> nerd "tact filter" too:
>
> http://www.mit.edu/~jcb/tact.html
>
> This applies for any
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 18:34 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> Subscribing to centos-devel or starting a SIG or doing a project on
> http://projects.centos.org/ does not require *any* invitation and that
> is where involvement starts. Well, it even does start on a lower level -
> by supporting othe
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 10:35:18AM -0600, James Bunnell wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 09:19 -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
>
> > This is open source etiquette. It differs from business etiquette
> > where you are more than welcoem to berate and yell and holler about
> >
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 18:36 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> James Bunnell wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 17:00 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On May 22 it was estimated that it would take 3 weeks. Did you really
> > > need an
> > > update on that?
> >
> > i only asked. an answer such as wh
James Bunnell wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 17:00 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On May 22 it was estimated that it would take 3 weeks. Did you really need
> > an
> > update on that?
>
> i only asked. an answer such as what was given here earlier would have
> sufficed. is that so hard?
But it
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 09:19 -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
> > This is open source etiquette. It differs from business etiquette
> > where you are more than welcoem to berate and yell and holler about
> > things because you're paying someone a lot of money.
> >
> >
> > the etiquette
James Bunnell wrote:
> i was told early on, that it took an invite to get involved.
Subscribing to centos-devel or starting a SIG or doing a project on
http://projects.centos.org/ does not require *any* invitation and that
is where involvement starts. Well, it even does start on a lower level -
b
> This is open source etiquette. It differs from business etiquette
> where you are more than welcoem to berate and yell and holler about
> things because you're paying someone a lot of money.
>
>
> the etiquette is rudeness to promote open source? is this what you are saying?
>
No
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:04 PM, James Bunnell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and i agree with you. banning in irc is an insult when based on nothing but
> personal disagreement. swearing is a knee-jerk defense to the abuse of irc
> operators and admittedly should not have happened.
Is this an apolo
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 09:01 -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
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> I expect people who feel they are treated like crap to do one of two
> things:
>
> 1. Get involved to try and make things better (I guess you could
> argue you are doing this albeit in a really ineffective manner :)
> 2. Move o
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 17:00 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Thursday 05 June 2008 16:42:47 James Bunnell wrote:
> > ts been
> > nearly 2 weeks since any update of progress to 5.2 has been announced.
>
> On May 22 it was estimated that it would take 3 weeks. Did you really need
> an
> update on
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 16:57 +0100, Martyn Drake wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:54 PM, James Bunnell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > you expect people to use OSS and be treated like crap? being treated like
> > crap is the competitor's job.
>
> Regardless of OSS or professional paid suppor
On Thursday 05 June 2008 16:54:08 James Bunnell wrote:
> you expect people to use OSS and be treated like crap? being treated
> like crap is the competitor's job.
>
It's no-one's job to be treated like crap. Under any circumstance.
> > You're not going to find many volunteers who react well to be
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:54:08AM -0600, James Bunnell wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:48 -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:45:36AM -0600, James Bunnell wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 11:35 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
> >
> > James
On Thursday 05 June 2008 16:42:47 James Bunnell wrote:
> ts been
> nearly 2 weeks since any update of progress to 5.2 has been announced.
On May 22 it was estimated that it would take 3 weeks. Did you really need an
update on that?
Anne
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On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:54 PM, James Bunnell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you expect people to use OSS and be treated like crap? being treated like
> crap is the competitor's job.
Regardless of OSS or professional paid support - *nobody* deserves to
receive abuse of any kind. If you dislike the
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 08:48 -0700, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:45:36AM -0600, James Bunnell wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 11:35 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
> >
> > James Bunnell wrote:
> >
> > > i do pay for rhel. i made the mistake of converting to
>
On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 09:45:36AM -0600, James Bunnell wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 11:35 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
>
> James Bunnell wrote:
>
> > i do pay for rhel. i made the mistake of converting to
> > centos. damage is done. on the next major upgrade, i will
> > r
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 11:35 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
> James Bunnell wrote:
>
> > i do pay for rhel. i made the mistake of converting to
> > centos. damage is done. on the next major upgrade, i will
> > return to rhel and will not professionally recommend centos
> > either privately,pe
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 17:00 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
> James Bunnell wrote:
> > I was in the #centos-social channel and simply stated that I noticed
> > CentOS 3-4 were getting a lot of updates. I also stated that the CentOS
> > 5 was one kernel behind, as in RHEL it is at -53, the gentlemen
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 10:59 -0400, Jim Perrin wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:35 AM, James Bunnell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I was in the #centos-social channel and simply stated that I noticed CentOS
> > 3-4 were getting a lot of updates. I also stated that the CentOS 5 was one
> > ker
James Bunnell wrote:
> i do pay for rhel. i made the mistake of converting to
> centos. damage is done. on the next major upgrade, i will
> return to rhel and will not professionally recommend centos
> either privately,personally, or in the realm of a business.
> thanks for seeing my side of t
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 15:54 +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote:
> James Bunnell wrote:
> > I was in the #centos-social channel and simply stated that I noticed
> > CentOS 3-4 were getting a lot of updates. I also stated that the CentOS
> > 5 was one kernel behind, as in RHEL it is at -53, the gentlemen
On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 09:57 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> James Bunnell wrote:
> > I was in the #centos-social channel and simply stated that I noticed
> > CentOS 3-4 were getting a lot of updates. I also stated that the CentOS
> > 5 was one kernel behind, as in RHEL it is at -53, the gentlemen t
James Bunnell wrote:
> I was in the #centos-social channel and simply stated that I noticed
> CentOS 3-4 were getting a lot of updates. I also stated that the CentOS
> 5 was one kernel behind, as in RHEL it is at -53, the gentlemen then
> told me that I was wrong and it was at -21.
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On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 10:35 AM, James Bunnell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was in the #centos-social channel and simply stated that I noticed CentOS
> 3-4 were getting a lot of updates. I also stated that the CentOS 5 was one
> kernel behind, as in RHEL it is at -53, the gentlemen then told me t
James Bunnell wrote:
I was in the #centos-social channel and simply stated that I noticed
CentOS 3-4 were getting a lot of updates. I also stated that the CentOS
5 was one kernel behind, as in RHEL it is at -53, the gentlemen then
told me that I was wrong and it was at -21. I then asked if there
James Bunnell wrote:
I was in the #centos-social channel and simply stated that I noticed
CentOS 3-4 were getting a lot of updates. I also stated that the CentOS
5 was one kernel behind, as in RHEL it is at -53, the gentlemen then
told me that I was wrong and it was at -21. I then asked if there
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