Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
I use something like this script to renew my SMTP and IMAP certificates (/etc/cron.weekly/certbot-renew): #!/bin/sh hostcert=/etc/letsencrypt/live/mail.example.com certlink="$(readlink "${hostcert}/cert.pem")" test -x /usr/bin/certbot || exit 72 certbot certonly --quiet --standalone

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Matthias Bethke via CentOS
On September 2, 2018 1:12:58 AM GMT+07:00, Rainer Duffner : >I’m pretty sure LE creates a new private key, too. >From a cursory glance at lego’s certificate directory on a server with >a couple of dozens of LE certificates at least. > >After all, changing the private key is what this is all

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Warren Young
On Sep 1, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: > >> Am 01.09.2018 um 12:51 schrieb Pete Biggs : >> >> That was until LetsEncrypt comes along - it has the backing of some big >> names and *IS* an effective business model for small and private >> customers. > > What *is* the business model

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Walter H.
On 01.09.2018 20:12, Rainer Duffner wrote: Am 01.09.2018 um 18:00 schrieb Leon Fauster via CentOS: Out of curiosity - do you change also the private key every time? when renewing a certificate the private key should also be changed; other ways the renewal because of short validity period

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 01.09.2018 um 20:27 schrieb Valeri Galtsev: I just checked on my box and confirm that yes, with every renewal of certificate new key is created. I should realize that fact even before looking, as it is asymmetric encryption pair, thus the new pair cert+key is generated (and the cert

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 9/1/18 1:12 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: Am 01.09.2018 um 18:00 schrieb Leon Fauster via CentOS : Out of curiosity - do you change also the private key every time? I’m pretty sure LE creates a new private key, too. I just checked on my box and confirm that yes, with every renewal of

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Rainer Duffner
> Am 01.09.2018 um 18:00 schrieb Leon Fauster via CentOS : > > Out of curiosity - do you change also the private key every time? I’m pretty sure LE creates a new private key, too. From a cursory glance at lego’s certificate directory on a server with a couple of dozens of LE certificates

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Rainer Duffner
> Am 01.09.2018 um 12:51 schrieb Pete Biggs : > > That was until LetsEncrypt comes along - it has the backing of some big > names and *IS* an effective business model for small and private > customers. What *is* the business model of Let’s Encrypt? Are they going to issue „Pro“ certificates

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 01.09.2018 um 02:06 schrieb Warren Young : > > I’ve been running some of my domains on Let’s Encrypt for years now, and have > never had a single user complain to me that my certs are changing too often. Out of curiosity - do you change also the private key every time? -- LF

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Pete Biggs
> > And for other services like IMAP, SMTP, LDAP (maybe not LDAP) constant > changing certs even with a long lived root may get old for your customers. Why? I have corporate systems on 2 year commercial CA signed certificates and personal servers on 90 day LetsEncrypt ones - my users of IMAP

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Pete Biggs
> > Your IMAP server can use those files and may then respond to > requests for IMAP over SSL/TLS on e.g. port 993. Port 143 is for > unencrypted IMAP, so in that case certificates are not relevant at > all. Well, apart from STARTTLS ... P. ___

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Pete Biggs
> > so - if you want to get certificates for an imap only server, you will > have to setup an webserver for the challenge. or deal with your dns server. > Having just setup up some LetsEncrypt certificates on a CentOS server: Certbot automates the process - if you have a webserver running, it

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Walter H.
On 31.08.2018 21:31, Michael Schumacher wrote: certbot works only with ports 80 or 443? Can lego work with with IMAP ports like 143 or 993? The documentation is not very clear. in case of other then Webserver you use ACME-DNS just for a simple ACME client that is capable for ACME-DNS use

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 31, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > [Let’s Encrypt] is designed for getting web servers quickly into TLS Yes. > ...and then to a more stable provider. [citation wanted] > If your content is short information, your contacts will never notice that > you go to a new cert

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread Leo R. Lundgren
1 sep 2018 kl. 00:42 skrev Robert Moskowitz : > On 08/31/2018 05:54 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 05:30:53PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> Letsencrypt is a very important development, but it has (IMHO) a shaking >>> foundation. I would not build a production system

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 08/31/2018 05:54 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 05:30:53PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Letsencrypt is a very important development, but it has (IMHO) a shaking foundation.  I would not build a production system around it.  But then I have lived in aspects of PKI

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread John R. Dennison
On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 05:30:53PM -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > Letsencrypt is a very important development, but it has (IMHO) a shaking > foundation.  I would not build a production system around it.  But then I > have lived in aspects of PKI since '95... I presume you meant "shaky

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 08/31/2018 01:47 PM, Chuck Campbell wrote: I am getting myself confused, and need someone who fully understands this process to help me out a bot. I would like to obtain an ssl certificate, so I can run my own imap server on a machine in my office. My domain is hosted by

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread John Plemons
Letsencrypt.org has one other thing you should know about, not a biggie, the certificate is only good for 90 days at a time. Then you need to renew. But they though about that too, you can automate the renewal, so that each time the certificate expires and new one is generated and installed.

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 31 Aug 2018 21:38:13 +0200 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > On 31.08.2018 21:31, Michael Schumacher wrote: > > > certbot works only with ports 80 or 443? Can lego work with with IMAP > > ports like 143 or 993? The documentation is not very clear. > > basically - independent of the

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread Leo R. Lundgren
31 aug 2018 kl. 21:38 skrev Ulf Volmer : > On 31.08.2018 21:31, Michael Schumacher wrote: > >> certbot works only with ports 80 or 443? Can lego work with with IMAP >> ports like 143 or 993? The documentation is not very clear. > > basically - independent of the client - letsencrypt will only

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread Leo R. Lundgren
31 aug 2018 kl. 21:31 skrev Michael Schumacher : > Leo, > >>> I would like to obtain an ssl certificate, so I can run my own imap server >>> on a machine in my office. >>> I am assuming I'll need to pay a CA to generate what I need, but >>> I'm confused about what I need. I am running dovecot

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 31.08.2018 21:31, Michael Schumacher wrote: > certbot works only with ports 80 or 443? Can lego work with with IMAP > ports like 143 or 993? The documentation is not very clear. basically - independent of the client - letsencrypt will only support http/https or dns based challenges. so - if

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread Michael Schumacher
Leo, >> I would like to obtain an ssl certificate, so I can run my own imap server >> on a machine in my office. >> I am assuming I'll need to pay a CA to generate what I need, but >> I'm confused about what I need. I am running dovecot at teh moment, >> but my clients (iphone, windows laptops)

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread Leo R. Lundgren
31 aug 2018 kl. 19:47 skrev Chuck Campbell : > I am getting myself confused, and need someone who fully understands this > process to help me out a bot. > > I would like to obtain an ssl certificate, so I can run my own imap server on > a machine in my office. > > My domain is hosted by

Re: [CentOS] Certificates Revocation Lists and Apache...

2009-11-04 Thread nate
John Doe wrote: [warn] Invalid signature on CRL [error] Certificate Verification: Error (8): CRL signature failure Any relation to this? https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45708 I've worked with a lot of ssl stuff in apache but have never touched CRL before. Interestingly

Re: [CentOS] Certificates Revocation Lists and Apache...

2009-11-04 Thread John Doe
From: nate cen...@linuxpowered.net Any relation to this? https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45708 I don't think so; my tests are quite simple: - Start from clean state ( - Generate CA certificate - Generate CASSL certificate signed by CA - Generate Client Certificate

Re: [CentOS] Certificates Revocation Lists and Apache...

2009-11-04 Thread nate
John Doe wrote: The goal is to be able to distribute client certificates to filter web access to certain resources. How about using just basic user names and passwords? Seems a lot simpler. Client certs can really make things messy and complicated, I worked with them a bunch several years ago,

Re: [CentOS] Certificates Revocation Lists and Apache...

2009-11-04 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, John Doe wrote: already asked in the openssl mailing list, but just in case you already went through this... I need a little help with Certificate Revocation Lists. I did setup client certificates filtering with apache and it seem to work fine so far (used a tutorial on