Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-26 Thread Dr. Ed Morbius
on 13:11 Fri 21 Jan, Michael Gliwinski (michael.gliwin...@henderson-group.com) wrote: On Thursday 20 Jan 2011 22:26:08 Bob Eastbrook wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:18 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: But the locked screensaver wants the *same* password that you log in with. I'm having

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Baker-LePain Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 4:49 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide? I was going to leave this alone, but I

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Mike McCarty Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:08 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide? OTOH, I have cats :-) Funny you should mention

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-22 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: You clearly work in an insecure environment. By who's definition? The fact that you're PC is connected to the internet place you in the same environment :)

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-22 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: And in those nine years you claim to have had at least one major security incident. It beggars my belief You now publicly declare that your company not just advocates the sharing of passwords, but certainly

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-22 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 5:53 PM, Ross Walker rswwal...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:03 PM,  m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I can beat that: I read, a month or so ago, how a bunch of elementary school kids discovered that wet Gummi Bears would hold a fingerprint, *and* (they didn't

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-21 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, On 1/21/11, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 20:13 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: This is on software which ran as POS stuff. hmm... how about a vlock -a (or inverse thereof) wrapper? Regards, Rajagopal ___ CentOS

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-21 Thread Michael Gliwinski
On Thursday 20 Jan 2011 22:26:08 Bob Eastbrook wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:18 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: But the locked screensaver wants the *same* password that you log in with. I'm having trouble understanding the problem... or is it that many of the users *never* log out?

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 05:53:14 pm Ross Walker wrote: I haven't heard of someone lifting a latent oil print and creating a fake out of that. I'm sure with enough ingenuity it can be done. Let me repeat: that is exactly what MythBusters did in the episode I referenced, 'Crime and

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-21 Thread Mike McCarty
Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: Greetings, On 1/21/11, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 20:13 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: This is on software which ran as POS stuff. hmm... how about a vlock -a (or inverse thereof) wrapper? We wanted to log the user out of the POS

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Baker-LePain Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:47 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide? By default, CentOS v5 requires

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Rudi Ahlers
to disable screen locking system-wide? By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the screensaver.  This can be disabled by each user, but how can I disable this system-wide?  Many of my users forget to do this, which results in workstations being locked up

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Keith Keller kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us wrote: For the OP: what's the goal behind preventing an X session from locking? Perhaps there is a more elegant solution than simply disabling it. --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us It probably

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Rudi Ahlers Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 9:55 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide? By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Rudi Ahlers wrote: I don't know about you, but a user leaving his desk (for any purpose, other than going home) doesn't cause a security risk. I trust all our staff, and when Andrew goes on lunch I expect him to leave his PC unlocked. I think I see things differently.

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:00 PM, John Hodrien j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: I think I see things differently.  Allowing others to access your account *is* a security risk.  It potentially opens confidential data open to other people, and leaves that specific user open to abuse through

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Giles Coochey
On 20/01/2011 11:55, Rudi Ahlers wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:00 PM, John Hodrienj.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: I think I see things differently. Allowing others to access your account *is* a security risk. It potentially opens confidential data open to other people, and leaves that

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Rudi Ahlers wrote: I think I see things differently.  Allowing others to access your account *is* a security risk.  It potentially opens confidential data open to other people, and leaves that specific user open to abuse through people using their machine.  You might as

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Giles Coochey
On 19/01/2011 21:35, Keith Keller wrote: Are the screensavers not smart enough to intercept ctrl-alt-bksp? For the OP: what's the goal behind preventing an X session from locking? Perhaps there is a more elegant solution than simply disabling it. Screensavers can't intercept... X gets the

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 4:00 AM, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote: It probably depends on his environment. If it's an office where people actually work for money and need to address client issues then I'm sure your colleagues won't be please if you make them loose all their work just to be

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 11:05 +, John Hodrien wrote: An account is a personal account that should not be shared. +1 Also, at least in the United States, locking a PC / workstation after 15 minutes of idle is a requirement of PCI/DSS - which your company almost certainly agreed to if you

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Tom H Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:03 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide? In our environment, leaving your desk without locking

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Tom H Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:03 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide? In our

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:55 AM, Sorin Srbu sorin.s...@orgfarm.uu.se wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Tom H Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:03 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Giles Coochey
On 20/01/2011 13:12, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 11:05 +, John Hodrien wrote: An account is a personal account that should not be shared. +1 Also, at least in the United States, locking a PC / workstation after 15 minutes of idle is a requirement of PCI/DSS - which

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John Hodrien Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 2:02 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide? I don't know the exact path but you can use

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Jerry Franz
On 01/20/2011 02:55 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: I don't agree with that, sorry. A few years ago one of our staff members decided his salary isn't good enough so he started a side-line business, on our company time. He stole some of our client's data (contact details, emails, and even contracts)

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Tom H wrote: Yes but someone's posted a global gconftool-2 recipe. Run gconf-editor as root and you can edit the global mandatory rules too. jh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 14:08 +0100, Giles Coochey wrote: On 20/01/2011 13:12, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 11:05 +, John Hodrien wrote: An account is a personal account that should not be shared. +1 Also, at least in the United States, locking a PC / workstation

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Ross Walker
On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Bob Eastbrook baconeater...@gmail.com wrote: By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the screensaver. This can be disabled by each user, but how can I disable this system-wide? Many of my users forget to do this, which

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Ross Walker
On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Bob Eastbrook baconeater...@gmail.com wrote: By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the screensaver. This can be disabled by each user, but how can I disable this system-wide? Many of my users forget to do this, which

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Ross Walker wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Bob Eastbrook baconeater...@gmail.com wrote: By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the screensaver. This can be disabled by each user, but how can I disable this system-wide? Many

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread m . roth
Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 14:08 +0100, Giles Coochey wrote: On 20/01/2011 13:12, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 11:05 +, John Hodrien wrote: An account is a personal account that should not be shared. snip While such standards are much-maligned I

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Ross Walker
On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:18 AM, John Hodrien j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Ross Walker wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Bob Eastbrook baconeater...@gmail.com wrote: By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the screensaver. This

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Ross Walker
On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:23 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 14:08 +0100, Giles Coochey wrote: On 20/01/2011 13:12, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 11:05 +, John Hodrien wrote: An account is a personal account that should not be

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread m . roth
Ross Walker wrote: On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:18 AM, John Hodrien j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Ross Walker wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Bob Eastbrook baconeater...@gmail.com wrote: By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread m . roth
Ross Walker wrote: On Jan 20, 2011, at 9:23 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 14:08 +0100, Giles Coochey wrote: On 20/01/2011 13:12, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 11:05 +, John Hodrien wrote: An account is a personal account

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Robert Spangler
On Thursday 20 January 2011 09:14, Ross Walker wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 2:44 PM, Bob Eastbrook baconeater...@gmail.com wrote: By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the screensaver. This can be disabled by each user, but how can I disable this

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Mathieu Baudier
By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the screensaver.  This can be disabled by each user, but how can I disable this system-wide?  Many of my users forget to do this, which results in workstations being locked up. Instead of removing the lock on your

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Ross Walker Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 3:27 PM To: CentOS mailing list Cc: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide? I wonder

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 at 11:00am, Rudi Ahlers wrote It probably depends on his environment. If it's an office where people actually work for money and need to address client issues then I'm sure your colleagues won't be please if you make them loose all their work just to be an arrogant IT

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/20/2011 8:18 AM, John Hodrien wrote: KDE has a multi-user x login feature that allows another user to start a new session keeping the existing session active. It might take a little config mod'ing to get it working, but it works. It works best if there is lots of RAM. So does gnome

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread m . roth
Joshua Baker-LePain wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011 at 11:00am, Rudi Ahlers wrote It probably depends on his environment. If it's an office where people snip situations, and it certainly doesn't make me arrogant or unprofessional. As others have pointed out, there are industries and workplaces

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Excuse me, but when I was in college, I heard the spiel about not leaving workstations unlocked, if only because some idiots would get cute and do something from your terminal to embarrass you, and/or aggravate someone else. cat .bashrc EOF echo

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Jerry Franz jfr...@freerun.com wrote: On 01/20/2011 02:55 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: I don't agree with that, sorry. A few years ago one of our staff members decided his salary isn't good enough so he started a side-line business, on our company time. He stole

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Rudi Ahlers wrote: Benjamin, I'm sorry to say this, but you're wrong! I'm fairly sure he's not. Now, since we're doing the name-calling thing, let's get that out of the way. Sometimes you need to access a PC of a staff member who is busy with something right now. And

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 03:54:45 am Rudi Ahlers wrote: Yup, and it totally defeats the purpose of what the OP actually wanted todo. Imagine your account being busy with your year-end books, and has to run to the toilet (she is a bit sick) now you come and press CTRL+ALT+Bksp and loose

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Giles Coochey
On 20/01/2011 17:11, Rudi Ahlers wrote: The message I'm trying to bring across is that users in the company shouldn't have passwords which admin doesn't know, or can't access. The PC's and data, well at least in our company, is the property of the company. Making it more difficult for an

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Les Mikesell
On 1/20/2011 10:11 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: Benjamin, I'm sorry to say this, but you're wrong! Now, since we're doing the name-calling thing, let's get that out of the way. Sometimes you need to access a PC of a staff member who is busy with something right now. And I'm not talking about

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 06:02:38 am Giles Coochey wrote: Data and Accounts are distinct, and the policies regarding their use should be distinct too. +1. The third 'A' of triple-A (AAA) is accountability. If you share accounts you defeat accountability. This has nothing to do with

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread m . roth
Rudi Ahlers wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Jerry Franz jfr...@freerun.com wrote: On 01/20/2011 02:55 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: snip If you don't have full administrative access to the machine *independent* of people's day-to-day login accounts you are doing it wrong and need to hire a

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote: Sometimes you need to access a PC of a staff member who is busy with something right now. And I'm not talking about administrative access. Sure, I can access any PC via root login, and frankly for that matter I can also

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: On 20/01/2011 17:11, Rudi Ahlers wrote: The message I'm trying to bring across is that users in the company shouldn't have passwords which admin doesn't know, or can't access. The PC's and data, well at least in our

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:06 AM, John Hodrien j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Tom H wrote: Yes but someone's posted a global gconftool-2 recipe. Run gconf-editor as root and you can edit the global mandatory rules too. Very true, as long as you can run a GUI app as root.

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: You clearly work in an insecure environment. By who's definition? The fact that you're PC is connected to the internet place you in the same environment :) No one should have access to anyone else's login. I have no admin

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 09:36:09 am Ross Walker wrote: With Amazon's cloud services now I guess they'll have to cut it down to 7 days, or require finger print or retinal eye scans... Fingerprints are too easily faked. Mythbusters did it in a 'Crime and Mythdemeanors' episode a few

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread m . roth
Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, January 20, 2011 09:36:09 am Ross Walker wrote: With Amazon's cloud services now I guess they'll have to cut it down to 7 days, or require finger print or retinal eye scans... Fingerprints are too easily faked. Mythbusters did it in a 'Crime and Mythdemeanors'

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Giles Coochey
And in those nine years you claim to have had at least one major security incident. It beggars my belief You now publicly declare that your company not just advocates the sharing of passwords, but certainly encourages it, if not make it compulsory. If you were to have another security

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread m . roth
Giles Coochey wrote: And in those nine years you claim to have had at least one major security incident. It beggars my belief From: Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Giles Coochey gi...@coochey.net wrote: On 20/01/2011 17:11, Rudi Ahlers wrote: snip I'm

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:03:27 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: Fingerprints are too easily faked. Mythbusters did it in a 'Crime and Mythdemeanors' episode a few years ago. I can beat that: I read, a month or so ago, how a bunch of elementary school kids discovered

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread m . roth
Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:03:27 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: Fingerprints are too easily faked. Mythbusters did it in a 'Crime and Mythdemeanors' episode a few years ago. I can beat that: I read, a month or so ago, how a bunch of elementary school

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 01:57:54 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: We (the Feds) are using PIV cards, which have passkeys, and, of course, the username. I prefer what I have from my employer: the RSA keyfobs. No trouble at all, *and* you need the username, keyfob and a pin. Our co-lo site is

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread m . roth
Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, January 20, 2011 01:57:54 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: We (the Feds) are using PIV cards, which have passkeys, and, of course, the username. I prefer what I have from my employer: the RSA keyfobs. No trouble at all, *and* you need the username, keyfob and a pin.

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Mike McCarty
John Hodrien wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Rudi Ahlers wrote: I don't know about you, but a user leaving his desk (for any purpose, other than going home) doesn't cause a security risk. I trust all our staff, and when Andrew goes on lunch I expect him to leave his PC unlocked. I think I

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Keith Keller
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 09:51:28AM -0500, Robert Spangler wrote: On Thursday 20 January 2011 09:14, Ross Walker wrote: KDE has a multi-user x login feature that allows another user to start a new session keeping the existing session active. And if that doesn't work you could always;

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Mike McCarty
Rudi Ahlers wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:00 PM, John Hodrien j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: I think I see things differently. Allowing others to access your account *is* a security risk. It potentially opens confidential data open to other people, and leaves that specific

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Mike McCarty
Giles Coochey wrote: [...] A user account should belong to the person who has been assigned that account. They are the only person who should be able to use that You are conflating access and ownership. The company should own the machine and the data. Only persons authorized by the company

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Mike McCarty
Giles Coochey wrote: [...] I can't speak for HIPPA, SOX etc... but automatic locking is part of IT best practice. I can. I did a contract job a few years ago to achieve HIPPA compliance with some pharmacy software. I inserted time limits with logout, screen information blanking, and RAM

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread m . roth
Mike McCarty wrote: John Hodrien wrote: On Thu, 20 Jan 2011, Rudi Ahlers wrote: snip At home, I keep my keyboard locked the instant I leave it because of potential security breaches, using the little lock screen (sic) button on the pop up menu on the left. Just about the only GUI button I

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread m . roth
Mike McCarty wrote: Giles Coochey wrote: [...] I can't speak for HIPPA, SOX etc... but automatic locking is part of IT best practice. I can. I did a contract job a few years ago to achieve HIPPA compliance with some pharmacy software. I inserted time limits with logout, screen

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Mike McCarty
Rudi Ahlers wrote: [...] User accounts also doesn't mean much to me. I know how it sounds, but I care more about the data than the user's account. As long as I can access whatever I want, whenever I want. ISTM that you have control issues. Access to data is what counts, and you've got that

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Mike McCarty
Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Tom H Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 1:03 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide? In our environment, leaving

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Mike McCarty
Mike McCarty wrote: [...] IANAL, but I suggest that anyone who has any intellectual property (patents, trade secrets, trade marks) get a lawyer Oops! Forgot copyright. Those are the ones in the USA. There may be others in other countries. I don't know. Anyway, trade secrets are very hard to

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 03:11:00 pm Mike McCarty wrote: That does not preclude access to the machine's content. Anyone with root access should be able to do that. You shouldn't have to log in AS THAT USER in order to access the computer's content. Although I have seen in the case of

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Bob Eastbrook
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 12:18 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: But the locked screensaver wants the *same* password that you log in with. I'm having trouble understanding the problem... or is it that many of the users *never* log out? Yes, users will sign onto a workstation, and then disappear

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Ross Walker
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:03 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, January 20, 2011 09:36:09 am Ross Walker wrote: With Amazon's cloud services now I guess they'll have to cut it down to 7 days, or require finger print or retinal eye scans... Fingerprints are too

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread JohnS
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 14:18 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: Giles Coochey wrote: [...] I can't speak for HIPPA, SOX etc... but automatic locking is part of IT best practice. I can. I did a contract job a few years ago to achieve HIPPA compliance with some pharmacy software. I inserted

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Bob Eastbrook
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:00 AM, John Hodrien j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: For gnome how about something like: gconftool-2 --direct \ --config-source xml:readwrite:/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.mandatory --type bool \ --set /apps/gnome-screensaver/lock_enabled false Many thanks. That did the

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 01/20/2011 02:53 PM, Ross Walker wrote: Fortunately I don't go sticking my fingers in wet gummy bears, so that risk is mitigated! While finger prints can be faked, it often requires access to the finger to fake. I haven't heard of someone lifting a latent oil print and creating a fake out

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Mike McCarty
JohnS wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 14:18 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: Giles Coochey wrote: [...] I can't speak for HIPPA, SOX etc... but automatic locking is part of IT best practice. I can. I did a contract job a few years ago to achieve HIPPA compliance with some pharmacy software. I

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread JohnS
On Thu, 2011-01-20 at 20:13 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: This is on software which ran as POS stuff. Yea but the catch is it is left up to YOU being responsible for what happens on that network. Very candid HIPPA states only `data at rest` does not have to be. In my state I live in I am the

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-19 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 at 11:44am, Bob Eastbrook wrote By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the screensaver. This can be disabled by each user, but how can I disable this system-wide? Many of my users forget to do this, which results in workstations

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-19 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Joshua Baker-LePain jl...@duke.edu wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 at 11:44am, Bob Eastbrook wrote By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the screensaver.  This can be disabled by each user, but how can I disable this

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-19 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 at 9:49pm, Rudi Ahlers wrote On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Joshua Baker-LePain jl...@duke.edu wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 at 11:44am, Bob Eastbrook wrote By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the screensaver.  This can be

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-19 Thread Sean Hart
On 1/19/11 11:49 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Joshua Baker-LePain jl...@duke.edu wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 at 11:44am, Bob Eastbrook wrote By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the screensaver. This can be disabled by

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-19 Thread m . roth
Sean Hart wrote: On 1/19/11 11:49 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Joshua Baker-LePain jl...@duke.edu wrote: On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 at 11:44am, Bob Eastbrook wrote By default, CentOS v5 requires a user's password when the system wakes up from the screensaver. This can

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-19 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 03:18:37PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Sean Hart wrote: On 1/19/11 11:49 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: I believe that CTRL-ALT-Bksp will restart X, not the computer. On restart of X you should be welcomed with the login screen. Note that in later versions of X,

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-19 Thread Keith Keller
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 03:18:37PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: But the locked screensaver wants the *same* password that you log in with. I'm having trouble understanding the problem... or is it that many of the users *never* log out? The locked screensaver will be killed along with the

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-19 Thread b.j. mcclure
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 15:29 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 03:18:37PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Sean Hart wrote: On 1/19/11 11:49 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: I believe that CTRL-ALT-Bksp will restart X, not the computer. On restart of X you should be