Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

On Thu, November 2, 2017 11:21 am, hw wrote: > Richard Zimmerman wrote: >> hw wrote: >>> Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8 >>> 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much* >>> more expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >smaller disk

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

On Thu, November 2, 2017 11:18 am, hw wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> hw wrote: >>> Richard Zimmerman wrote: DO NOT buy the newer HPE DL20 gen9 or ML10 gen9 servers then (especially if using CentOS 6.x) >>> >>> What would you suggest as alternative, something from Dell? >> >>

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

>Most servers can fit only 2.5" disks these days. I keep wondering what >everyone is doing about storage. The DL20 gen9 I bought was setup LFF (3.5") The DL380 gen9 could be either SFF (2.5) or LFF. I had to buy SFF for our new server due I was told to spec / build it exact to vendor

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

I can help a little here... Yes, dropping NPAPI is a huge problem. FireFox ESR is available for Linux x32 and x64. Solved my problems using Lantronix Spider IP/KVM device until Java updates, then refuses to run it yet again :( https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ Hopes

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

On 2 November 2017 at 12:21, hw wrote: > Richard Zimmerman wrote: >> >> hw wrote: >>> >>> Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8 >>> 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much* more >>> expensive than the 3.5" drives, and

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: hw wrote: Richard Zimmerman wrote: DO NOT buy the newer HPE DL20 gen9 or ML10 gen9 servers then (especially if using CentOS 6.x) What would you suggest as alternative, something from Dell? Yep, Dell's are good. That´s good to hear. And I do *not* want to buy

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

Richard Zimmerman wrote: hw wrote: Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much* more expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >smaller disk space. For the price of a 1TB 2.5", I can get at least a 4TB

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

Richard Zimmerman wrote: > hw wrote: >>Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8 >> 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much* >> more expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >smaller disk space. For the >> price of a 1TB 2.5", I can get at

Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

Anybody care to chime in with a comment or hint on the laptop situation and-or their experiences? I'm very happy with my Dell Precision 5520 "developer edition". It shipped with Ubuntu and runs Fedora pretty much flawlessly. I haven't tried CentOS, but Dell claims that RHEL support on their

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

Richard Zimmerman wrote: >>Most servers can fit only 2.5" disks these days. I keep wondering what >> everyone is doing about storage. > > The DL20 gen9 I bought was setup LFF (3.5") > > The DL380 gen9 could be either SFF (2.5) or LFF. I had to buy SFF for our > new server due I was told to spec /

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Not intending to contradict (if that ends up as pain, it will be > your pain anyway ;-) but I would go higher with specs if you intend > to use Linux on it. Linux tends to grow its demands for resources > pretty much exponentially (same as

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

hw wrote: > Richard Zimmerman wrote: >> hw wrote: >>> Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8 >>> 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much* >>> more expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >smaller disk space. For the >>> price of a 1TB 2.5",

Re: [CentOS] EXTERNAL: modestly priced laptop for C7

On 11/02/2017 01:42 PM, Fred Smith wrote: I'm looking to replace my (old, creaky) netbook (Acer Aspire One D255e, a screaming dual core 1.6 GHz Atom, and a whole 2 gigs of RAM) with something faster but not too large. Sometimes (usually) the netbook is painfully slow. Something like a hi-res

Re: [CentOS] Centos and xen network bridge issue

On 11/01/2017 03:06 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 11/01/2017 07:55 AM, Scott Gennari wrote: /etc/xen/scripts/network-bridge-pcl #/bin/sh dir=$(dirname "$0") "$dir/network-bridge" "$@" vifnum=1 netdev=eth2 bridge=xen-dmz2 "$dir/network-bridge" "$@" vifnum=3 netdev=eth0 bridge=xen-dmz1 Do you

[CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

I'm looking to replace my (old, creaky) netbook (Acer Aspire One D255e, a screaming dual core 1.6 GHz Atom, and a whole 2 gigs of RAM) with something faster but not too large. Sometimes (usually) the netbook is painfully slow. Something like a hi-res 14 (or 15) inch screen (full HD), minimum of

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

hw wrote: > m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> hw wrote: >>> Richard Zimmerman wrote: DO NOT buy the newer HPE DL20 gen9 or ML10 gen9 servers then (especially if using CentOS 6.x) >>> >> And I do *not* want to buy from HP, because their >> support is nothing like good. > > Indeed, I

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Thu, November 2, 2017 11:21 am, hw wrote: >> Richard Zimmerman wrote: >>> hw wrote: Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much* more expensive than the

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> Not intending to contradict (if that ends up as pain, it will be >> your pain anyway ;-) but I would go higher with specs if you intend >> to use Linux on it. Linux tends to grow its demands for resources >> pretty

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

On Thu, November 2, 2017 1:03 pm, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> Not intending to contradict (if that ends up as pain, it will be >> your pain anyway ;-) but I would go higher with specs if you intend >> to use Linux on it. Linux tends to grow

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

On Thu, November 2, 2017 12:41 pm, Fred Smith wrote: > I'm looking to replace my (old, creaky) netbook (Acer Aspire One D255e, > a screaming dual core 1.6 GHz Atom, and a whole 2 gigs of RAM) with > something faster but not too large. Sometimes (usually) the netbook is > painfully slow. > >

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

Valeri Galtsev wrote: > And you are talking about 8 years old system on what would be called > decent hardware about the same 8 years back, right? The hardware is 6 years old and, at the time, Tech Report called it "the best netbook we've ever tested". So it was

Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

On 11/2/2017 8:35 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote: I'm very happy with my Dell Precision 5520 "developer edition".  It shipped with Ubuntu and runs Fedora pretty much flawlessly.  I haven't tried CentOS, but Dell claims that RHEL support on their spec sheet, so I would expect it to work well. Dell also

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

On 11/2/2017 9:21 AM, hw wrote: Richard Zimmerman wrote: hw wrote: Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much* more expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >smaller disk space. For the price of a

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Thu, November 2, 2017 2:41 pm, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: >> Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >>> And you are talking about 8 years old system on what would be called >>> decent hardware about the same 8 years back, right? >> >> The hardware is 6

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

And I agree too, running Kubuntu 14.04 LTS on an HP Pavilion dv7 is acceptable, running Windows 7 was dog slow - hard drive crashed and we lost the Windoze license, sad story, all I could do was install Linux and go on instead of dual-booting when I needed Windoze - such a shame :-) :-) :-)

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

On Thu, November 2, 2017 2:41 pm, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> And you are talking about 8 years old system on what would be called >> decent hardware about the same 8 years back, right? > > The hardware is 6 years old and, at the time, Tech

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

John R Pierce wrote: > On 11/2/2017 9:21 AM, hw wrote: >> Richard Zimmerman wrote: >>> hw wrote: Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8 3.5" drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much* more expensive than the 3.5" drives, and

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

On 11/2/2017 2:18 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: We have a fair number of SAS 3.5" drives, and yes, 10k or 15k speeds. those are internally 2.5" disks in a 3.5" frame.   you can't spin a 3.5" disk much faster than 7200 rpm without it coming apart. -- john r pierce, recycling bits in santa

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

John R Pierce wrote: > On 11/2/2017 2:18 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >> We have a fair number of SAS 3.5" drives, and yes, 10k or 15k speeds. > > those are internally 2.5" disks in a 3.5" frame.   you can't spin a 3.5" > disk much faster than 7200 rpm without it coming apart. > Sorry, that's

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

On 2017-11-02, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > If you have not Dell server hardware my choice of [hardware] RAID cards > would be: > > Areca > LSI (or whoever owns that line these days - Intel was the last one, I > recollect) > > With LSI beware that they have really nasty

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

On Thu, November 2, 2017 4:43 pm, Keith Keller wrote: > On 2017-11-02, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> If you have not Dell server hardware my choice of [hardware] RAID cards >> would be: >> >> Areca >> LSI (or whoever owns that line these days - Intel was the last one, I

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 02:09:04PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > > Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > >> Not intending to contradict (if that ends up as pain, it will be > >> your pain anyway ;-) but I would go higher with specs if you intend > >>

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

On 11/2/2017 7:20 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: it's just a pity they're not compatible with Linux so I can't monitor or manage them while the servers are running. The only way I know I have problems is by watching the LEDS I have a couple python scripts I've used for monitoring LSI/Avago

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

On 11/2/2017 2:35 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: John R Pierce wrote: On 11/2/2017 2:18 PM,m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: We have a fair number of SAS 3.5" drives, and yes, 10k or 15k speeds. those are internally 2.5" disks in a 3.5" frame.   you can't spin a 3.5" disk much faster than 7200 rpm

[CentOS] PHP package versions

Hi everyone, http://php.net/eol.php says that PHP 5.5 and 5.4 are EOL, but a freshly installed Centos 7 box, then fully upgraded, gives me PHP 5.4.16-42.el7. What do people do about maintaining current versions of software on a variety of machines? We have some users who manage their own

Re: [CentOS] PHP package versions

> > http://php.net/eol.php says that PHP 5.5 and 5.4 are EOL, but a > freshly installed Centos 7 box, then fully upgraded, gives me PHP > 5.4.16-42.el7. What do people do about maintaining current versions > of software on a variety of machines? We have some users who manage > their own

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

On 11/02/2017 10:41 AM, Fred Smith wrote: I'm looking to replace my (old, creaky) netbook (Acer Aspire One D255e, a screaming dual core 1.6 GHz Atom, and a whole 2 gigs of RAM) with something faster but not too large. Sometimes (usually) the netbook is painfully slow. Something like a hi-res

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 09:16:48PM -0400, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > On Thursday 02 November 2017, Fred Smith > wrote: > > > mostly portable email and browsing. > > For that, almost anything will do, of course. only if it actually works for Linux/C7. My netbook

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 06:34:06PM -0700, Alice Wonder wrote: > On 11/02/2017 10:41 AM, Fred Smith wrote: > >I'm looking to replace my (old, creaky) netbook (Acer Aspire One D255e, > >a screaming dual core 1.6 GHz Atom, and a whole 2 gigs of RAM) with > >something faster but not too large.

Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7

On Thursday 02 November 2017, Fred Smith wrote: > mostly portable email and browsing. For that, almost anything will do, of course. -- Yves Bellefeuille GPG key 837A6134 at http://members.storm.ca/~yan/pgp.asc

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

On 2017-11-02, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Thu, November 2, 2017 4:43 pm, Keith Keller wrote: >> >> There are Nagios plugins that can check the status of LSI controllers, >> arrays, and drives. The plugin is nice even if you don't use Nagios; >> it'd be pretty easy to

Re: [CentOS] PHP package versions

On 2/11/17 4:50 pm, Pete Biggs wrote: Yes, those versions are EOL, but RedHat spends vast amounts of money back porting security (and bug) fixes from later versions into the EOL versions so that they remain a viable option for the life of that particular version of the distro - that's what the

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

Hello, what is the purpose of this server? On Thursday, November 2, 2017, Gary Stainburn wrote: > I'm just about to build a new server and I'm looking for recommendations on > what hardware to use. > > I'm happy with either a brand name, or building my own, but would like a

Re: [CentOS] NoScript allow scripts globally reversible?

On Wed, November 1, 2017 10:51, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > I'm running NoScript because otherwise Firefox freezes up a lot. > Recently I've had difficulty accessing a site. > I suspect the reason is that it uses redirection in a way that > frustrates my efforts to give it permission. > To test

[CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

I'm just about to build a new server and I'm looking for recommendations on what hardware to use. I'm happy with either a brand name, or building my own, but would like a hardware RAID controller to run a pair of disks as RAID1 that is actually compatible with and manageable through Linux.

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

Gary Stainburn wrote: I'm just about to build a new server and I'm looking for recommendations on what hardware to use. I'm happy with either a brand name, or building my own, but would like a hardware RAID controller to run a pair of disks as RAID1 that is actually compatible with and

Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

On Thursday 02 November 2017 13:54:41 Sorin Srbu wrote: > Thanks. > Would you know what chipset that particular wifi-dongle is running? > > A wifi-dongle may work, but I'm thinking it's not really desirable to go > that way. > I'm figuring the users will loose that dongle sooner than later! :-)

Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

On Thursday 02 November 2017 14:04:11 Gary Stainburn wrote: > On Thursday 02 November 2017 13:54:41 Sorin Srbu wrote: > > Thanks. > > Would you know what chipset that particular wifi-dongle is running? > > > > A wifi-dongle may work, but I'm thinking it's not really desirable to go > > that way. >

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

On 11/2/2017 8:04 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: I'm just about to build a new server and I'm looking for recommendations on what hardware to use. I'm happy with either a brand name, or building my own, but would like a hardware RAID controller to run a pair of disks as RAID1 that is actually

Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 01:29:53PM +, Sorin Srbu wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm looking into getting HP laptops for our department running CentOS 7. At daily work, we have elitebook 840g2 and 840g3, works out of the box with C7. (on the g3, the FN/light shortcuts are not working). ymmv. Cheers

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

On Thursday 02 November 2017 14:10:25 Bowie Bailey wrote: > If you want raid 5 or 6, then you should get a hardware controller. For > raid 1, mdadm should work just fine.  I would suggest trying it before > buying a raid controller.  If it works for you, you save a few hundred > dollars and you

Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

On Thu, November 2, 2017 8:29 am, Sorin Srbu wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm looking into getting HP laptops for our department running CentOS 7. I usually recommend against HP laptops. I had Compaq quite some time ago (the last was bought out by HP shortly after I got my laptop), and I have seen a

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

hw wrote: > Richard Zimmerman wrote: >> DO NOT buy the newer HPE DL20 gen9 or ML10 gen9 servers then (especially >> if using CentOS 6.x) > > What would you suggest as alternative, something from Dell? Yep, Dell's are good. And I do *not* want to buy from HP, because their support is nothing like

[CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

Hello all, I'm looking into getting HP laptops for our department running CentOS 7. Last time I checked this was some five or so years ago, and when I look at https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops, nothing much seems to have happened since. At that time, I had to give up CentOS on laptops, as

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

I just put a call into AT Office 365 asking them to explain the spoof warning thing... To answer your question At the moment, no I can't. I like HPE stuff, we bought a DL380 gen9 say five months ago and totally happy with it. In fairness, its running Server 2012 r2 too but I didn't run

Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

I've got a HP Envy laptop and I'm fairly happy with it. The internal WiFi doesn't work with Centos but a £5 WiFi dongle sorted that. Oddly, it still stops working once the battery drops below 50% ish. Mine is dual boot with Win8 which is pants. The biggest problem is that whenever I do much

Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

> -Original Message- > From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Gary > Stainburn > Sent: den 2 november 2017 14:48 > To: centos@centos.org > Subject: Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7? > > I've got a HP Envy laptop and I'm fairly happy with it. The internal WiFi >

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

DO NOT buy the newer HPE DL20 gen9 or ML10 gen9 servers then (especially if using CentOS 6.x) I don't use hardware raid (mdadm for the win!) so cannot speak to that. DL20, bought it on a stock 'B' sale. Great price. Works well on Windows. HPE doesn't sell hard drive trays, etc. You pretty much

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

Richard Zimmerman wrote: DO NOT buy the newer HPE DL20 gen9 or ML10 gen9 servers then (especially if using CentOS 6.x) What would you suggest as alternative, something from Dell? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

Sorin Srbu wrote: > > I'm looking into getting HP laptops for our department running CentOS 7. > > Last time I checked this was some five or so years ago, and when I look at > https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops, nothing much seems to have > happened since. > > At that time, I had to give up

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

Once upon a time, Gary Stainburn said: > I've used MDADM before on previous servers, but have found that this setup > isn't hot swap. Ultimately if I had to replace a drive it involved a lot of > effort, especially the first drive. I use mdadm RAID in a bunch of places; it

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

Richard Zimmerman wrote: > Honestly, I'm leaning against Dell because their stuff just doesn't seem > to be built to last. We have 1 T620, 2 R620 servers. So far just past the > 5 year mark, 3 dead hard drives, 2 power supplies. That is with the > machines mostly TURNED OFF. (Failed IT project

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

Gary Stainburn wrote: > On Thursday 02 November 2017 14:10:25 Bowie Bailey wrote: > By using H/W RAID, it's literally just a case of removing the dead drive > and inserting the replacement. I've got a number of IBM and DELL boxes > like this. > it's just a pity they're not compatible with Linux

Re: [CentOS] HP laptops with CentOS 7?

Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Thu, November 2, 2017 8:29 am, Sorin Srbu wrote: >> Hello all, >> >> I'm looking into getting HP laptops for our department running CentOS 7. > To be fair I must mention here that I love HP printers, and the whole > attitude of HP towards printers they make. Decent HP

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

hw wrote: >Next question: you want RAID, how much storage do you need? Will 4 or 8 3.5" >drives be enough (DO NOT GET crappy 2.5" drives - they're *much* more >expensive than the 3.5" drives, and >smaller disk space. For the price of a >1TB 2.5", I can get at least a 4TB WD Red. I will second

Re: [CentOS] low end file server with h/w RAID - recommendations

Good to know about the HPE and Dell "gotchas", thanks to those who posted. I can speak to SuperMicro (11 systems, mostly X9 and X10). Hardware seems to be fine, management utilities (IPMI - like iLO) are more basic. The real heartburn right now is that the browsers for Linux have pretty much

Re: [CentOS] PHP package versions

> > http://php.net/eol.php says that PHP 5.5 and 5.4 are EOL, but a freshly > installed Centos 7 box, then fully upgraded, gives me PHP 5.4.16-42.el7. > What do people do about maintaining current versions of software on a > variety of machines? If you need more up to date versions of PHP then