Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Unless I misinterpreted, you're basically saying that to a writer they need to go work at the project they are documenting, not CentOS no, I agree that you have me right that I think content needs to first go at the proper trailhead in all cases Would this do as a rule? If it is something 'supported' as in one will answer questions on it if it was asked on irc or the mailing list, then it can go on the wiki (sendmail, apache, postfix, samba, whatever comes with the Centos distro). If it won't be 'supported' then minimal documentation such as how to install from rpmforge can go on the wiki. But before we go on, may I ask what is the purpose of the Centos Wiki? ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Hi again, It is perfectly reasonable that I argue to strive to make fewer forks and less content in the CentOS wiki under that rubric, as success means the future's primary source doco is better for _all_ FOSS approaches I think it's not that easy to handle. Let's take a look at another example: amavisd-new The original author of the application does not offer a platform for docs. There is a very good how to available on our wiki: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Amavisd explaining how to deal with this program. It covers a lot of configuration aspects that are not CentOS specific. Should this one be removed from the wiki, even if it helps a lot of ppl out there configuring the related components correctly? As mentioned before: Besides that I think that docs that are not available somewhere else in any form could as well be published on the CentOS wiki. This would even make more sense if they are centos-specific. Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Hi again. Would this do as a rule? If it is something 'supported' as in one will answer questions on it if it was asked on irc or the mailing list, then it can go on the wiki (sendmail, apache, postfix, samba, whatever comes with the Centos distro). If it won't be 'supported' then minimal documentation such as how to install from rpmforge can go on the wiki. But before we go on, may I ask what is the purpose of the Centos Wiki? In conclusion of this thread (and all mentioned options) I have tried to outline what kind of content should be published on the wiki: http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute Feel free to comment and/or update. Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Marcus Moeller wrote: Hi again. Would this do as a rule? If it is something 'supported' as in one will answer questions on it if it was asked on irc or the mailing list, then it can go on the wiki (sendmail, apache, postfix, samba, whatever comes with the Centos distro). If it won't be 'supported' then minimal documentation such as how to install from rpmforge can go on the wiki. But before we go on, may I ask what is the purpose of the Centos Wiki? In conclusion of this thread (and all mentioned options) I have tried to outline what kind of content should be published on the wiki: http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute Thank you Marcus. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: Would this do as a rule? If it is something 'supported' as in one will answer questions on it if it was asked on irc or the mailing list, then it can go on the wiki (sendmail, apache, postfix, samba, whatever comes with the Centos distro). If it won't be 'supported' then minimal documentation such as how to install from rpmforge can go on the wiki. No, I don't think so. Because many things which *come* with CentOS just work. There are many other things people use on CentOS - and which come from repositories like rpmforge, atrpms, epel or elrepo which are more or less advertised on the CentOS wiki - where someone had trouble setting it up and wrote some document about it. I don't think that we need documentation on how to install something from one of those repos via yum. In my opinion this documentation should at least contain a useful basic configuration, which can get people going on CentOS. If there is a need for cookbook recipes which also can be found elsewhere I don't know, but don't think so. But at least links to those recipes should be there. But before we go on, may I ask what is the purpose of the Centos Wiki? That is a good question. IM not so HO it should contain documentation which gets people going with things on CentOS. Which is a very broad view. Because people will *always* look for documentation on CentOS venues first before even thinking about going to the sendmail.org webpage, for example. That is one of the reasons why people like Distributions like Ubuntu, Arch and Gentoo - their documentation is rather extensive. Ralph ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] Wiki SEO
Dear Ralph, have you already generated/submitted a sitemap for moin? Also Thomas Waldmann suggested to place a prominent link to 'TitleIndex'. Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki SEO
Hi Ralph, Also Thomas Waldmann suggested to place a prominent link to 'TitleIndex'. Hmmm. Hmmm. Hmmm. That probably has to be visible, does it? I think so :) Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Ralph Angenendt wrote: On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Christopher Chan But before we go on, may I ask what is the purpose of the Centos Wiki? That is a good question. IM not so HO it should contain documentation which gets people going with things on CentOS. Which is a very broad view. Broad views are good IMHO as I think it's easier to address on a case by case basis largely as this list does at present by asking to see and discussing proposed documentation. Because people will *always* look for documentation on CentOS venues first before even thinking about going to the sendmail.org webpage, for example. That is one of the reasons why people like Distributions like Ubuntu, Arch and Gentoo - their documentation is rather extensive. Ralph Agreed :) ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 5:44 AM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: ... Broad views are good IMHO as I think it's easier to address on a case by case basis largely as this list does at present by asking to see and discussing proposed documentation. ... The list is not deciding these matters. There is no vote. There is only situational reluctance to allow content by certain people. I think maybe that (potential) page hits could be a better metric than the seemingly random way we have now. Is there a greater possibility to have a new/continuing CentOS user be shown content that may spoon feed some and give comfort to others on a known good way to accomplish a task using CentOS? Like most have stated, Nagios, for example, is not trivial and overwhelming for most *and* the most recent Nagios Community CentOS 5.2 install is a 404 link (http://community.nagios.org/?s=install). I guess I should move on to Ubuntu or SLES If I google nagios install, I find a seemingly helpful Nagios 3 on CentOS: Quick Install Script. That looks promising! *But* it's all a bunch of make lines with no status checks... not exactly generally recommended procedures is you troll our CentOS mailing lists! So, what are they going to learn? Ubuntu has easy docs for install? SLES10 has rpms? Or a helpful install for a rock solid OS with long term support and a good community to back it up with bonuses like solid documentation and additional repos like epel and rpmforge and elrepo etc I think it is sad that this part of the CentOS community can not seem to allow good people to focus on the areas they can contribute. Or does not allow a member not contribute information that will help correctly and repeatedly and easily (aka spoon feed?) produce positive results with CentOS as the foundation OS. Dev peeps can be Dev peeps; forum helpers can be forum helpers (and spoon feeders), documentation peeps can do that. pjwelsh ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki SEO
Hi again. Also Thomas Waldmann suggested to place a prominent link to 'TitleIndex'. Hmmm. Hmmm. Hmmm. That probably has to be visible, does it? I think so :) I have noticed that it's possible to define the following meta tags manually: #language Set page language and direction. #language language-name keywords adds a meta tag with keywords which tells search engines what you can find on the particular page. #pragma keywords Cars, Vehicles, Foo description adds a meta tag which contains the description of the particular page. #pragma description This page is about cars. If that could make sense I would like to offer my help to add them (at least to the English / German pages). Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] new wiki article: How to repair a software RAID5 volume with more than one failed disk
Hi, Would anybody comment on this article? Or if everything is fine, may be it is a good idea to link this page from http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks ? -- Lev. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Lev Shamardin shamar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I've finally got some time to finish the second article I've promised to write some time ago; please read it, any comments are welcome: http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/Repair_RAID5_Volumes -- Lev. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
[CentOS-docs] contribute on wiki
username GiuseppeCefaratti PostFix HOWTO par 3.3 Create users mailbox ... To setup *Maildir* mail boxes for our example user john we cano use the *“maildirmake”* command. We must do this for existing users and also in */etc/skel* so new users automatically get the same setup. To setup our *Maildir*, change directories to john home and run: maildirmake Maildir To make our sub folders run: maildirmake -f Sent Maildir maildirmake -f Drafts Maildir maildirmake -f Templates Maildir maildirmake -f Junkmail Maildir Now repeat for */etc/skel*. . ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-docs] Contribution to wiki: nagios incompatibility with centos 5.2
Hi List my question to everyone is. What is exactly wrong with having helpful documentation on the centos wiki? Does it really matter if the original maintainer documents his app. I for one love the fact i can search threw the wiki and get app#1 working and I also know the procedure has gone threw peer review and i am fairly comfortable it is secure practice. I for one contributed the Multi-Media portion and as many have called it pointless at one time or another All i know is my personal blog gets a few thousand hits per month and I can only imagine the centos wiki gets 100 times more hits. According to multiple post this document should not live on the wiki cause lets be honest 90% of the installed apps to get a full multimedia experience reside outside of what centos ships. I think any documentation is good. I agree maybe docs on how to use grep might be pointless in 90% of the user base but anything that simplifies or paints the nice picture adds to the community. I for one after seeing all the mess with the domain names and the funds and now the wiki feel like centos is imploding on itself. I believe the point of the wiki is un-official documentation and considering all of it is coming from users contributing it, who am i to say good or bad or pointless. I for one have found multiple items in the wiki helpful and believe that limiting content will turn more and more people away. my 2 cents which is not worth much if you factor in the exchange rate. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs
Re: [CentOS-es] Configuracion Servidor Centos 5.4
Hola, 2009/9/18 Ernesto Celis celisdelafue...@gmail.com Ahora, no dije que dejen de sugerir Alcance Libre, solo que hay que nutrir más centos.org Se podría hablar con el resp. de alcance libre (creo que que està en la lista) y ayudarle a pasar los manuales al wiki. Nno pretendo imponer mis ideas, solo me expreso tal y como soy en persona, si no les agrada bien; seguiré participando en estos canales de soporte. Si no estan de acuerdo en que me involucre tanto en la comunidad, díganlo sin temores, que sabré entender. Mira cada uno es como es...y todos tenemos nuestras cosillas. Lo único que me extraño es que de un día para otro y desde el mensaje del tema es.centos.org, pues cambio el tono de la listas :) Por lo demás bien, no te preocupesesta linea de trabajo la veo correcta. -- Saludos, Oscar Osta Pueyo ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] Timer para control sesion
Hola Compañeros muy buenos dias, Alguien me podria recomendar o decir donde consigo un software par control de sesiones en linux o se algo parecido a un Timer? De antemanos muchas gracias por su colaboracion. Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo Administrador de Sistemas Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales Universidad de Antioquia e-mail: cmc...@matematicas.udea.edu.co cmc...@socrates.udea.edu.co Tel: ++57(4)2195604 Medellin - Colombia ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Timer para control sesion
Saludos. Sesiones de usuario del sistema?, de servicios de red? 2009/9/18 Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo cmc...@ciencias.udea.edu.co Hola Compañeros muy buenos dias, Alguien me podria recomendar o decir donde consigo un software par control de sesiones en linux o se algo parecido a un Timer? De antemanos muchas gracias por su colaboracion. Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo Administrador de Sistemas Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales Universidad de Antioquia e-mail: cmc...@matematicas.udea.edu.co cmc...@socrates.udea.edu.co Tel: ++57(4)2195604 Medellin - Colombia ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- Juan Pablo Botero Administrador de Sistemas informáticos Fedora Ambassador for Colombia http://www.jpilldev.com Linux Registered user #435293 ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] Colaboración para Newsletter
Hola lista, después de algunas convulsiones de poca importancia y a raíz de las cuales procuraré medir mis comentarios para contribuir al buen ambiente de la lista, me dirijo ahora a ustedes para poner a su consideración y sobre todo revisión el siguiente texto para el Newsletter de CentOS. Karanbir del equipo de desarrollo de la distribución ha mostrado interés en que contribuyamos algo al Newsletter, la idea de esta primera contribucion, es presentar a la comunidad internacional de CentOS, quienes somos, como trabajamos y que podemos contribuir al proyecto. Pretendo solicitar a Karanbir un espacio en español en cada edición del Newsletter, siempre y cuando podamos comprometernos algunos a escribir colaboraciones. Durante la reciente reunión en IRC surgió la idea de dar charlas en el canal, podŕia ser bueno en cierta forma traducir estas charlas a formato para su lectura y publicarlas en el Newsletter. Espero sus sugerencias, esta por cerrarse la edición y todo ha sucedido rápido, así que agradezco sus prontos comentarios y sobretodo sugerencias y o modificaciones. Saludos Ernesto INICIA TEXTO CentOS se escribe con ñ Culturalmente las personas con herencia latina formamos comunidades participativas y vibrantes, en el caso de los usuarios de CentOS que hablamos español esto no es diferente; desde que empecé a usar CentOS como alternativa a Red Hat Enterprise Linux 3 en 2005, encontré entre los usuarios de CentOS un puñado de personas que día a día contribuyen un poco de su tiempo para traducir las páginas del proyecto, ayudar a otros a superar sus problemas con esta distribucíon o sencillamente charlar sobre el tema. Sirvan estas letras como una muestra del trabajo e interés que los miembros de la comunidad CeñtOS prestan a esta distribucíon. La lista de correo y la wiki http://wiki.centos.org/es/ son los canales de soporte donde se concentran ya desde hace XXX años los esfuerzos de Alain Reguera (xxx) y Ernesto Pérez (xxx) para que centos.org cuente con los espacios que los usuarios hispanohablantes de esta distribución merecemos; existen en la red lugares alternos como http://alcancelibre.org y http://centos-es.org/ que cuentan con howto's y foros donde también participan miembros de esta comunidad y son junto a la wiki sitios de referencia para nuevos usuarios en la lista de correo. A raíz de una reunión en IRC se acordó revisar el estado de la wiki en español que esta traducida en su mayor parte pero hace falta mantenerla al día, las secciones Contribute y Promo necesitan complementarse y la sección de Aprendizaje es inexistente; la documentación de CentOS traducida al español es un punto importante y ahora estamos buscando como repartir el trabajo entre los recursos humanos que tenemos. Ernesto Pérez (Ecuador) y Roger (xxx) administran la lista de correo, donde en un ambiente amistoso se presta ayuda a los recien llegados que en muchos casos eligen CentOS como primer acercamiento a GNU/Linux ya sea por necesidades laborales o simplemente por la reputación de estabilidad y soporte de CentOS. Es esta lista el punto de encuentro de nuestra comunidad, donde además de brindar soporte se discuten los temas que conciernen a la comunidad en general y como queremos contribuir al proyecto. Gino Alania (xxx) es el responsable del canal #centos-es en irc.freenode.net que en últimos tiempos ha estado un poco abandonado; gracias a una sugerencia de Enrique en la lista de correo #centos-es ha cobrado vida en los últimos días y queremos conservarlo como canal de soporte inmediato y una forma más para unirnos dada la naturaleza inmediata de la comunicación en IRC. Nicks como epe, ecelis, gin0, K|Ke y otros estamos el mayor tiempo posible ahí, para brindar ayuda a los recién llegados y compartir ideas de nuestra distribución. La comunidad CentOS de habla española esta interesada en contribuir al proyecto trabajando en la versión 2 del sitio web de la distribución. Ha habído propuestas de parte de Enrique Quezada y Eduardo Grosclaude para montar un foro en español y también algunas discusiones en la lista de correo centos-es a este respecto, pero no se ha llegado todavía a un punto de acuerdo. En estos breves párrafos pretendí ofrecer una mirada rápida a la comunida de habla hispana de CentOS, como puedes darte cuenta, hace tiempo somos usuarios de esta distribución y estamos comprometidos a participar en el proyecto para mantenerla y ayudar a los nuevos usuarios. Ernesto Celis (México) ---TERMINA TEXTO ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Timer para control sesion
Es para Sesiones de usuarios. On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:00:19 -0500, Juan Pablo Botero wrote Saludos. Sesiones de usuario del sistema?, de servicios de red? 2009/9/18 Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo cmc...@ciencias.udea.edu.co Hola Compañeros muy buenos dias, Alguien me podria recomendar o decir donde consigo un software par control de sesiones en linux o se algo parecido a un Timer? De antemanos muchas gracias por su colaboracion. Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo Administrador de Sistemas Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales Universidad de Antioquia e-mail: cmc...@matematicas.udea.edu.co cmc...@socrates.udea.edu.co Tel: ++57(4)2195604 Medellin - Colombia ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es -- Juan Pablo Botero Administrador de Sistemas informáticos Fedora Ambassador for Colombia http://www.jpilldev.com Linux Registered user #435293 Cesar Augusto Martinez Cobo Administrador de Sistemas Facultad de Ciencias Exactas y Naturales Universidad de Antioquia e-mail: cmc...@matematicas.udea.edu.co cmc...@socrates.udea.edu.co Tel: ++57(4)2195604 Medellin - Colombia ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Colaboración para Newsletter
2009/9/18 Enrique Quezada equez...@kike.ath.cx Hola Ernesto y un saludo también a todos. Me permití, en común acuerdo con Ernesto Celis, hacer un pastebin con el contenido de la propuesta para que tengamos una colaboración más fluida y evitar tantos correos en la lista. Realicé algunas modificaciones más de forma que de fondo. Esperamos otras ediciones y sugerencias al respecto. Muchas gracias a todos. Pastebin: http://centos-es.pastebin.com/m37828a70 Hola todos, por favor si existen sugerencias a la edición de Ernesto, necesitamos que se efectúen lo antes posible ya que estamos contra el tiempo, podemos esperar solo hasta unas horas más. Esta es la ultima edicion http://centos-es.pastebin.com/m60a5930 Saludos a todos y gracias. -- Enrique Quezada R. Linux Counter #417515 Freenode #centos-es Saludos Ernesto Celis (Usuario Linux #323140) irc.freenode.net #centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Colaboración para Newsletter
Hola todos, por favor si existen sugerencias a la edición de Ernesto, necesitamos que se efectúen lo antes posible ya que estamos contra el tiempo, podemos esperar solo hasta unas horas más. hola, podrías agregar esto? soy de Cuba y Ecuador quiero que mis dos países se vean representados. el sitio ecualug.org hace tremendo esfuerzo por dar soporte en centos. Sería bueno mencionarlo. Disculpen me haya perdido, problemas organizacionales que he tenido que resolver en la empresa. saludos! epe Esta es la ultima edicion http://centos-es.pastebin.com/m60a5930 Saludos a todos y gracias. -- Enrique Quezada R. Linux Counter #417515 Freenode #centos-es Saludos Ernesto Celis (Usuario Linux #323140) irc.freenode.net #centos-es -- Saludos! epe Ernesto Pérez Estévez, BSc, PgD http://www.NuestroServer.com/ USA: +1 360 469 0612 / España: +34 911 877 602 Ecuador: +593 2 600 4454 / Colombia: +57 2 891 2748 Mexico: +52 55 1328 1880 / Peru: +51 1 640 9010 Chile: +56 2 495 8425 / Argentina: +54 11 5917 6017 ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS] domU: no audio device
i created a centos 5.3 hvm domU. i have tried any one of the following in the xen config without luck soundhw = all or sb16 or es1370 dom0: #virsh version Compiled against library: libvir 0.7.0 Using library: libvir 0.7.0 Using API: Xen 3.0.1 Running hypervisor: Xen 3.1.0 # uname -a Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.18-128.4.1.el5xen # /usr/lib/xen/bin/qemu-dm -soundhw ? Valid sound card names (comma separated): -soundhw all will enable all of the above pls advise. Yahoo!香港提供網上安全攻略，教你如何防範黑客! 請前往 http://hk.promo.yahoo.com/security/ 了解更多!___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] program to hide X11 windows
Jerry Geis a écrit : The window I am trying to hide is the openoffice impress window that edits the power point. I just want to show the power point. Don't know if that's what you're looking for, but when you edit a presentation with Impress, press F5 to show only the presentation. Cheers, Niki Kovacs ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
Greetings, On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, mark m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: itxakaserr...@gmail.com wrote: Enviado desde mi iPhone El 18/09/2009, a las 04:39, mark m.r...@5-cent.us escribió: R P Herrold wrote: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, mark wrote: I have googled. I have find ...-exec grep. One server continues to send error messages to /var/log/messages that gdm-simple-greeter can't find some file in a user's (another admin, actually) home directory. Any ideas where it's getting it from? There are couple of directories starting with '.' (i.e. hidden ones) pertaining to gnome .gconf, .gdm maybe you can find the answers there. /me putting up the sheild for hiding from insufficient accuracy missiles Regards Rajagopal ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] XEN and PCIPassthru
I have an old windows NT machine, that I would like to virtualize under CentOS and xen. The problem is, that the machine has an old PCI card that is used for some sensor control. I tried to google the topic, but there isn't any useful tutorial, how to do this under CentOS. What I found out is, that I need a machine that supports the Intel VT-d technology and at least XEN 3.3. Does someone on this list have any real world experience with this? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
Greetings, On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, mark m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: itxakaserr...@gmail.com wrote: Enviado desde mi iPhone El 18/09/2009, a las 04:39, mark m.r...@5-cent.us escribió: R P Herrold wrote: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, mark wrote: I have googled. I have find ...-exec grep. One server continues to send error messages to /var/log/messages that gdm-simple-greeter can't find some file in a user's (another admin, actually) home directory. Any ideas where it's getting it from? There are couple of directories starting with '.' (i.e. hidden ones) pertaining to gnome .gconf, .gdm maybe you can find the answers there. /me putting up the sheild for hiding from insufficient accuracy missiles Yeah, I always alias ll=ls -laF, so they're never hidden from me. g Anyway, the situation is that users logging onto this system, as most of our systems, get their home directory automounted. However, this guy hasn't been on this system most of the time I've tried to find this error. Based on that, it's got to be somewhere in a *system* file, not in a home directory, yet it complains: gdm-simple-greeter[2361]: GLib-GIO-WARNING: Missing callback called fullpath = /home/username/.face#012 Now, I found /var/lib/gdm, and have looked under .config, .gconf, and .gconfd, and not found it. I have also killed the simple greeter, and it respawned, and started griping again. So, where is it storing this, and, more important, *WHY* is it caching this? Ideally, I'd like to not only clear whatever's causing it now, but also change the relevant system configuration file so that it doesn't happen again. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] getting ftp log reports
Hello, I'm running pure-ftpd on a centos 5.3 machine. I'm encountering a situation where i need to get log reports of user logins and logouts and tracking the files got, atempted anonymous user logins those should preferably go in to a firewall rule block list, and atempted hack ins, same thing as anonymous user logins. Can anyone suggest a package for creating and then emailing say 3 to 4 times a day reports of activity? Thanks. Dave. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] getting ftp log reports
Hello, I'm running pure-ftpd on a centos 5.3 machine. I'm encountering a situation where i need to get log reports of user logins and logouts and tracking the files got, atempted anonymous user logins those should preferably go in to a firewall rule block list, and atempted hack ins, same thing as anonymous user logins. Can anyone suggest a package for creating and then emailing say 3 to 4 times a day reports of activity? logwatch mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
grep face /home/username -r :) -- David Fix Senior Systems Administrator Mr. X Inc. - Original Message - From: m roth m.r...@5-cent.us To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:01:27 AM Subject: Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config? Greetings, On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, mark m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: itxakaserr...@gmail.com wrote: Enviado desde mi iPhone El 18/09/2009, a las 04:39, mark m.r...@5-cent.us escribió: R P Herrold wrote: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, mark wrote: I have googled. I have find ...-exec grep. One server continues to send error messages to /var/log/messages that gdm-simple-greeter can't find some file in a user's (another admin, actually) home directory. Any ideas where it's getting it from? There are couple of directories starting with '.' (i.e. hidden ones) pertaining to gnome .gconf, .gdm maybe you can find the answers there. /me putting up the sheild for hiding from insufficient accuracy missiles Yeah, I always alias ll=ls -laF, so they're never hidden from me. g Anyway, the situation is that users logging onto this system, as most of our systems, get their home directory automounted. However, this guy hasn't been on this system most of the time I've tried to find this error. Based on that, it's got to be somewhere in a *system* file, not in a home directory, yet it complains: gdm-simple-greeter[2361]: GLib-GIO-WARNING: Missing callback called fullpath = /home/username/.face#012 Now, I found /var/lib/gdm, and have looked under .config, .gconf, and .gconfd, and not found it. I have also killed the simple greeter, and it respawned, and started griping again. So, where is it storing this, and, more important, *WHY* is it caching this? Ideally, I'd like to not only clear whatever's causing it now, but also change the relevant system configuration file so that it doesn't happen again. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Segmentation fault
hi i've recently installed centos 5.3 on the machine. the installation went fine, but after that (on the first boot) it says a lot of segmentation fault errors fe. # yum Segmentation fault i've tried centos 5.2 and 5.0 also, but none of them works. but the centos 4.x works fine. could anyone tell me where the problem is? thanx a lot fous ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] XEN and PCIPassthru
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Re: [CentOS] program to hide X11 windows
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Jerry Geis ge...@pagestation.com wrote: Don't know if that's what you're looking for, but when you edit a presentation with Impress, press F5 to show only the presentation. Cheers, Niki Kovacs Niki, no-one is there to press F5. Its a controlled display. Thanks for the suggestion though. openoffice.org -h tells you some options to run OpenOffice. Perhaps you can add -show to get OO to automatically display the presentation. -- Eduardo Grosclaude Universidad Nacional del Comahue Neuquen, Argentina ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] getting ftp log reports
Hi, Thanks. I've installed logwatch. It definitely looks like what i'm looking for. I've got a question on customizations, point of confusion actually. In /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf are the default configs, nothing is in /usr/share/logwatch/dist.conf, and nothing in /etc/logwatch in terms of configs. Do i make changes to /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/* files or copy them to their equivalent name place in /etc/logwatch and edit making changes to those? Thanks much. Dave -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of m.r...@5-cent.us Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:13 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] getting ftp log reports Hello, I'm running pure-ftpd on a centos 5.3 machine. I'm encountering a situation where i need to get log reports of user logins and logouts and tracking the files got, atempted anonymous user logins those should preferably go in to a firewall rule block list, and atempted hack ins, same thing as anonymous user logins. Can anyone suggest a package for creating and then emailing say 3 to 4 times a day reports of activity? logwatch mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Segmentation fault
I am clutching at straws here but would that suggest there is a hardware incompatibility issue, what is you physical set up? -- Pablo Picasso - Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/p/pablo_picasso.html ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Segmentation fault
fous velkej wrote, On 09/18/2009 09:44 AM: hi i've recently installed centos 5.3 on the machine. the installation went fine, but after that (on the first boot) it says a lot of segmentation fault errors fe. # yum Segmentation fault i've tried centos 5.2 and 5.0 also, but none of them works. but the centos 4.x works fine. could anyone tell me where the problem is? thanx a lot fous Warning: WAG questions follow: was each of the 5.X tests done from install or upgrades from previous installs? [I have seen a library get munged on first install, and a reinstall would fix it, but if the upgrade used the same version of the lib, it would not fix it.] Just another guess, what processor do you have? How close to being full is the disk after the 5.X install? -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] program to hide X11 windows
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Jerry Geis geisj at pagestation.com http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos wrote: / // Don't know if that's what you're looking for, but when you edit a // presentation with Impress, press F5 to show only the presentation. // // Cheers, // // Niki Kovacs // // Niki, // // no-one is there to press F5. Its a controlled display. // Thanks for the suggestion though. // / openoffice.org -h tells you some options to run OpenOffice. Perhaps you can add -show to get OO to automatically display the presentation. in fact I am doing the -show option and what happens is before the show begins all the power point creations editor shows on screen then the show begins. I dont want to show all the editor screen stuff. I want to hide that window. Again this works using devilspie but gnome-panel must be running. I dont want to run gnome-panel on some of my installs and am looking for a similiar way in X11 to hide a window based on the title name. Thanks, Jerry ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] getting ftp log reports
Hi, Thanks. I've installed logwatch. It definitely looks like what i'm looking for. I've got a question on customizations, point of confusion actually. In /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf are the default configs, nothing is in /usr/share/logwatch/dist.conf, and nothing in /etc/logwatch in terms of configs. Do i make changes to /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/* files or copy them to their equivalent name place in /etc/logwatch and edit making changes to those? Thanks much. I actually don't know. They run logwatch here, and I just look at the emails. Every hour. Every day. Every machine Anyway, looking through our configs, I see that what's in /etc/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf just says # Local configuration options go here (defaults are in /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logwatch.conf). So I gather that if the defaults are fine, go with that; if you want something different, use the defaults as a guide, and put the local stuff in etc. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
grep face /home/username -r
:)
Please. I'm not send me the directions how to set up ssl with my web
server.
I've tried, as last resorts,
find /var -type f -exec grep -il username/.face {} \;
and in addition to /var, I tried /etc and /tmp, and the *only* thing grep
gave me were the logfiles that had the entries.
Now, does anyone have any other suggestions?
mark there's reasons I'm not hot on gnome
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From: m roth m.r...@5-cent.us
To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:01:27 AM
Subject: Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
Greetings,
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, mark m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
itxakaserr...@gmail.com wrote:
Enviado desde mi iPhone
El 18/09/2009, a las 04:39, mark m.r...@5-cent.us escribió:
R P Herrold wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, mark wrote:
I have googled. I have find ...-exec grep. One server
continues to send error messages to /var/log/messages that
gdm-simple-greeter can't find some file in a user's (another
admin, actually) home directory. Any ideas where it's
getting it from?
There are couple of directories starting with '.' (i.e. hidden ones)
pertaining to gnome .gconf, .gdm maybe you can find the answers there.
/me putting up the sheild for hiding from insufficient accuracy
missiles
Yeah, I always alias ll=ls -laF, so they're never hidden from me. g
Anyway, the situation is that users logging onto this system, as most of
our systems, get their home directory automounted. However, this guy
hasn't been on this system most of the time I've tried to find this error.
Based on that, it's got to be somewhere in a *system* file, not in a home
directory, yet it complains:
gdm-simple-greeter[2361]: GLib-GIO-WARNING: Missing callback called
fullpath = /home/username/.face#012
Now, I found /var/lib/gdm, and have looked under .config, .gconf, and
.gconfd, and not found it. I have also killed the simple greeter, and it
respawned, and started griping again.
So, where is it storing this, and, more important, *WHY* is it caching
this? Ideally, I'd like to not only clear whatever's causing it now, but
also change the relevant system configuration file so that it doesn't
happen again.
mark
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Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
grep face /home/username -r :) Oh, yes, the point I realized I should mention as I hit send: I thought I mentioned that when I look at the log, that the user is NOT LOGGED ON, and that the home directories were automounted at login. mark gnome, gnome and deranged -- David Fix Senior Systems Administrator Mr. X Inc. - Original Message - From: m roth m.r...@5-cent.us To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:01:27 AM Subject: Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config? Greetings, On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:34 AM, mark m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: itxakaserr...@gmail.com wrote: Enviado desde mi iPhone El 18/09/2009, a las 04:39, mark m.r...@5-cent.us escribió: R P Herrold wrote: On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, mark wrote: I have googled. I have find ...-exec grep. One server continues to send error messages to /var/log/messages that gdm-simple-greeter can't find some file in a user's (another admin, actually) home directory. Any ideas where it's getting it from? There are couple of directories starting with '.' (i.e. hidden ones) pertaining to gnome .gconf, .gdm maybe you can find the answers there. /me putting up the sheild for hiding from insufficient accuracy missiles Yeah, I always alias ll=ls -laF, so they're never hidden from me. g Anyway, the situation is that users logging onto this system, as most of our systems, get their home directory automounted. However, this guy hasn't been on this system most of the time I've tried to find this error. Based on that, it's got to be somewhere in a *system* file, not in a home directory, yet it complains: gdm-simple-greeter[2361]: GLib-GIO-WARNING: Missing callback called fullpath = /home/username/.face#012 Now, I found /var/lib/gdm, and have looked under .config, .gconf, and .gconfd, and not found it. I have also killed the simple greeter, and it respawned, and started griping again. So, where is it storing this, and, more important, *WHY* is it caching this? Ideally, I'd like to not only clear whatever's causing it now, but also change the relevant system configuration file so that it doesn't happen again. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:42, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
grep face /home/username -r
Please. I'm not send me the directions how to set up ssl with my web
server.
I've tried, as last resorts,
find /var -type f -exec grep -il username/.face {} \;
and in addition to /var, I tried /etc and /tmp, and the *only* thing grep
gave me were the logfiles that had the entries.
But you clearly have ADD or something...
The file is probably referred in one of the .gnome*/.gconf* files
inside the home directory. Just because the home is not mounted at the
time of login it doesn't mean that the gdm-greeter won't mount it,
then read its config files from there, then try to look for the
missing file.
It's probably related to a saved gnome session, so you could just log
in as that user and run the gnome-session-save command to see if the
issue will happen again on the next login.
HTH,
Filipe
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Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
Hi,
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:42, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
grep face /home/username -r
Please. I'm not send me the directions how to set up ssl with my web
server.
I've tried, as last resorts,
find /var -type f -exec grep -il username/.face {} \;
and in addition to /var, I tried /etc and /tmp, and the *only* thing
grep
gave me were the logfiles that had the entries.
But you clearly have ADD or something...
Why is that?
The file is probably referred in one of the .gnome*/.gconf* files
inside the home directory. Just because the home is not mounted at the
time of login it doesn't mean that the gdm-greeter won't mount it,
then read its config files from there, then try to look for the
missing file.
snip
Oh, so the answer to my question is that gnome's simple greeter is reading
*his* configuration files - is this as he's logging on? - from his home
directory.
However, I don't see the message from any other server (and we have a good
number), so I don't understand why it wouldn't show up from another 10-30
machines.
But obviously I'm missing something that you're overlooking in your
over-familiarity with gnome and gnome-simple-greeter.
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Re: [CentOS] Segmentation fault
hi here is my hw config 00:00.0 Host bridge: Broadcom CMIC-WS Host Bridge (GC-LE chipset) (rev 13) 00:00.1 Host bridge: Broadcom CMIC-WS Host Bridge (GC-LE chipset) 00:00.2 Host bridge: Broadcom CMIC-LE 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27) 00:03.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 (rev 0d) 00:08.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 78) 00:0f.0 ISA bridge: Broadcom CSB5 South Bridge (rev 93) 00:0f.1 IDE interface: Broadcom CSB5 IDE Controller (rev 93) 00:0f.2 USB Controller: Broadcom OSB4/CSB5 OHCI USB Controller (rev 05) 00:0f.3 Host bridge: Broadcom CSB5 LPC bridge 00:11.0 Host bridge: Broadcom CIOB-X2 PCI-X I/O Bridge (rev 03) 00:11.2 Host bridge: Broadcom CIOB-X2 PCI-X I/O Bridge (rev 03) 01:04.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82544GC Gigabit Ethernet Controller (LOM) (rev 02) 02:08.0 PCI bridge: Adaptec (formerly DPT) PCI Bridge (rev 01) 02:08.1 I2O: Adaptec (formerly DPT) SmartRAID V Controller (rev 01) 02:09.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7899P U160/m (rev 01) 02:09.1 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7899P U160/m (rev 01) processor : 3 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 2 model name : Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz stepping: 7 cpu MHz : 2399.907 cache size : 512 KB physical id : 3 siblings: 2 core id : 0 cpu cores : 1 apicid : 7 fdiv_bug: no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug: no coma_bug: no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe cid xtpr bogomips: 4798.76 about 4G ram 2009/9/18 James Bensley jwbens...@gmail.com: I am clutching at straws here but would that suggest there is a hardware incompatibility issue, what is you physical set up? -- Pablo Picasso - Computers are useless. They can only give you answers. - http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/p/pablo_picasso.html ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Segmentation fault
hi each test was fresh install now i've installed centos 4.8 (works fine) and upgraded do 5.3 (via cd/netinst), and the segfault appears again df -h gives me about 29G free on the / partition any other hints? fous 2009/9/18 Todd Denniston todd.dennis...@tsb.cranrdte.navy.mil: Warning: WAG questions follow: was each of the 5.X tests done from install or upgrades from previous installs? [I have seen a library get munged on first install, and a reinstall would fix it, but if the upgrade used the same version of the lib, it would not fix it.] Just another guess, what processor do you have? How close to being full is the disk after the 5.X install? -- Todd Denniston Crane Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC Crane) Harnessing the Power of Technology for the Warfighter ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
Hi, On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:54, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: grep face /home/username -r However, I don't see the message from any other server (and we have a good number), so I don't understand why it wouldn't show up from another 10-30 machines. Well, did you at least *look* in his home directory? If you look and it's not there, it's probably something else, but I don't think you should discard that before actually looking at it. HTH, Filipe ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] gdm-simple-greeter config?
Hi, On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:54, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: grep face /home/username -r However, I don't see the message from any other server (and we have a good number), so I don't understand why it wouldn't show up from another 10-30 machines. Well, did you at least *look* in his home directory? If you look and it's not there, it's probably something else, but I don't think you should discard that before actually looking at it. I really don't see that I need to: his home directory's on another system, and I don't see it happening from logs from any other system running gnome when he logs on, and he tells me he doesn't know anything about it, either, and since he's been a sysadmin here for years, and knows the systems, I believe him. It has to be stored somewhere on this one server. Can you suggest any reason that you think it's not? *IF* I understand this correctly, the simple greeter shows up when you wake up the screensaver, and displays the names of those recently logged in, and it *seems* as though it can also display pictures. Given the location and filename, I was assuming that it gets them that way. which would imply that it might work *if* the home directory was always mounted, not automounted on logon. With those assumptions, my guess was that there's a configuration that tells it to look in a user's home directory for such a file. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] program to hide X11 windows
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:05:05 -0400 Jerry Geis wrote: no-one is there to press F5. Its a controlled display. If it's a static presentation, perhaps a PDF display would be adequate? You could export your presentation to the PDF and use a full-screen PDF display program to display it. I'm not sure if pdfcube supports full-screen as you require, but it looks pretty cool so you might want to check that one out. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Best way to backup and entire machine??
I want to mirror a Centos box, not having done this before, I'm looking for guidance. What is the best way to perform this task, I have a running webserver, a single external IP address to the website, and wanted to protect myself should the server go down. My though would be a mirror of that webserver, running in background, if the main server dies, then just move the mirror in place, change the IP and go on... Limiting down time... John Plemons attachment: john.vcf___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Best way to backup and entire machine??
John Plemons wrote: I want to mirror a Centos box, not having done this before, I'm looking for guidance. What is the best way to perform this task, I have a running webserver, a single external IP address to the website, and wanted to protect myself should the server go down. My though would be a mirror of that webserver, running in background, if the main server dies, then just move the mirror in place, change the IP and go on... Limiting down time... Depends on what data is on the system, if it is just static content then I would configure the backup system the same way as the primary and setup a rsync over ssh job to keep the web content in sync. If there is a database or other things then it can be more complicated. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Best way to backup and entire machine??
Dear John, I want to mirror a Centos box, not having done this before, I'm looking for guidance. What is the best way to perform this task, I have a running webserver, a single external IP address to the website, and wanted to protect myself should the server go down. My though would be a mirror of that webserver, running in background, if the main server dies, then just move the mirror in place, change the IP and go on... Limiting down time... You may also find some useful information on the wiki: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos Best Regards Marcus ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Best way to backup and entire machine??
John Plemons wrote: I want to mirror a Centos box, not having done this before, I'm looking for guidance. What is the best way to perform this task, I have a running webserver, a single external IP address to the website, and wanted to protect myself should the server go down. My though would be a mirror of that webserver, running in background, if the main server dies, then just move the mirror in place, change the IP and go on... Limiting down time... There are several approaches, depending on how you want to trade expense and effort against possible downtime - and whether your site is approaching the point where you need a load-balanced farm of servers and possibly redundant sites. The easiest plan with the least to go wrong is probably to use RAID1 mirrored/swappable drives with a spare chassis, and also do nightly backups. The most likely failure will be a disk drive, handled transparently by the mirror until you can replace it. Next most likely would be the power supply/motherboard which you handle by swapping the disks to your spare with a small amount of downtime. Next would be an operator or software error that erases or corrupts your disks. For that you have to restore from your last backup with a much longer downtime. You can keep the spare server in sync with DRBD and fail over automatically with heartbeat at the expense of more complexity but you still need backups for the error scenaro. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS
joh...@centos.org wrote: I STILL do not understand why anyone would care what CentOS does with money donated by people who used the product and wanted to donate. I used to think this way too, until I got burned. Most people are reasonable and know you are providing an excellent service for free. But there are getting to be more and more of the conspiracy theorists out there who wonder what your real motivation is. It seems these people can't conceive of anyone doing something for nothing. Perhaps nowadays rightfully so after seeing the number of cases of theft and fraud in both high and low profile cases. In my case I arranged an upgrade of communications equipment and services for a volunteer agency I was a member of. It was a swap deal, where the new equipment would be purchased at wholesale price if the old (and about to be useless) equipment was traded in to the distributor. It wasn't a high value transaction, less than $10,000US, but for years afterward I was accused of making big piles of money on the deal by certain people. I can guarantee you that the only money made by anyone in the deal was the manufacturer and maybe the distributor made some money by selling the old equipment as parts to someone. Personally I have a problem with agencies that solicit donations, then expend a considerable amount of money on administrative costs or other expenses that don't really achieve the organization's primary mission. One well known agency that comes to mind is the Red Cross. Granted, they are a large and complex organization, but there is something just not right about them paying their top executives what is reputed to be hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in salary. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that CentOS does this, but it is in the Project's best interests to make public some info, perhaps even some sort of budget so you know what the expected costs are. Maybe even a sort of wish list where money can be earmarked for certain objectives; i.e. if we were able to raise X amount of money to buy Y, we would be able to accomplish Z. Who knows, large donors have been known to either fill in a hole in a fund raiser or make other creative donation programs like a matching program For every $1 donated we will provide a match of $1. Already the project gets donations of equipment, and if a mechanism was in place to allow documentation of donations, I know many people and companies who would rather give more money to a worthy cause than the government if they can offset the donation in their taxes. Ideally, this funding management task should be given to a person (or persons) who are not active in the trenches of development, but who is aware of the needs and have the time to manage the funding as a primary task so as not to take away valuable time from the developers. If this task is given to one person, there should be a backup, who can fill in in the event the primary person is unavailable, and to provide a timely checks-and-balances system. I think that there also should be a contingency fund that could be filled to a certain point, then any overflow can be used for additional purchases as needed. General status of the project's finances should be available to donors on the internet, and detailed finances should be available (at minimum) to all the key contributors to the project at any time. I think this would bring MORE money into the project, since donors could see at a glance the overall financial status, and may even lead to more widespread adoption of CentOS if the project is shown to be financially stable. I'm not sure if this already takes place, but I do feel that the heavy contributors to the project should get certain perks, like having their internet connectivity paid for by the project or other similar concessions if funding allows. But also the primary needs of the project have to be fulfilled first, like making sure there is adequate equipment available to test and build releases. The perks might be used as a tool to attract other qualified developers, who would have a clear path to achieve and maintain the status of project slave or whatever title might be given to someone who has proven they have the necessary knowledge and capabilities. There will be those who say that anyone who get these perks are not doing it for free. But if the time and knowledge invested to make the project work isn't there there is no project, and the value of the perks is far outweighed by the results of the work. The people who whine about this are the same ones that complain about everything in their lives, but few actually do anything to make their lives better. With the reach of CentOS, the project should continue to be successful, and grow more so over time. CentOS isn't dead, it's just having growing pains. Thanks again to everyones who works so hard to make it happen. -Ben
[CentOS] Thermal information
Hi, I'd want know get thermal information on Centos 5.3 but get nohting. If I run acpitool -e, it outputs: acpitool -e Kernel version : 2.6.18-92.1.18.20060707 -ACPI version : 20060707 --- Battery status : error reading info Function Do_AC_Info_Sys: could not read directory /sys/class/power_supply/ Make sure your kernel has ACPI AC adapter support enabled. Fan: not available CPU type : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU5110 @ 1.60GHz CPU speed : 1595.980 MHz Cache size : 4096 KB Bogomips : 3193.92 Bogomips : 3191.86 # of CPU's found : 2 Processor ID : 0 Bus mastering control : no Power management : no Throttling control : yes Limit interface: yes Active C-state : C1 C-states (incl. C0): 1 T-state count : 8 Active T-state : T0 Processor ID : 1 Bus mastering control : no Power management : no Throttling control : yes Limit interface: yes Active C-state : C1 C-states (incl. C0): 1 T-state count : 8 Active T-state : T0 Thermal info : not available Device Sleep state Status --- 1. PCI0 5disabled And: grep THERMAL /boot/config-2.6.18-92.el5 CONFIG_X86_MCE_P4THERMAL=y CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y Am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance! -- -- Open Kairos http://www.openkairos.com Watch More TV http://sebelk.blogspot.com Sergio Belkin - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Best way to backup and entire machine??
The web machine uses a PHP shopping cart running atop MySQL, all of the main and important information is kept as a part of the MySQL DB. So the main thing I would want to mirror is the application and the DB. I'm a surplus dealer, so hardware isn't a big issue, I have extra servers that can be up in a couple of hours without any big layout of money. I'm just looking for the best way to keep down time to a minimum and as always to KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid. Simple to manage, simple to maintain... John Les Mikesell wrote: John Plemons wrote: I want to mirror a Centos box, not having done this before, I'm looking for guidance. What is the best way to perform this task, I have a running webserver, a single external IP address to the website, and wanted to protect myself should the server go down. My though would be a mirror of that webserver, running in background, if the main server dies, then just move the mirror in place, change the IP and go on... Limiting down time... There are several approaches, depending on how you want to trade expense and effort against possible downtime - and whether your site is approaching the point where you need a load-balanced farm of servers and possibly redundant sites. The easiest plan with the least to go wrong is probably to use RAID1 mirrored/swappable drives with a spare chassis, and also do nightly backups. The most likely failure will be a disk drive, handled transparently by the mirror until you can replace it. Next most likely would be the power supply/motherboard which you handle by swapping the disks to your spare with a small amount of downtime. Next would be an operator or software error that erases or corrupts your disks. For that you have to restore from your last backup with a much longer downtime. You can keep the spare server in sync with DRBD and fail over automatically with heartbeat at the expense of more complexity but you still need backups for the error scenaro. attachment: john.vcf___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Thermal information
- Sergio Belkin seb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd want know get thermal information on Centos 5.3 but get nohting. If I run acpitool -e, it outputs: ... Am I doing something wrong? You'll want to check out lm_sensors. Not sure off the top of my head if its in the normal repos or if you have to grab it from RPMforge... Tim Nelson Systems/Network Support Rockbochs Inc. (218)727-4332 x105 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Thermal information
thus Tim Nelson spake: - Sergio Belkin seb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'd want know get thermal information on Centos 5.3 but get nohting. If I run acpitool -e, it outputs: ... Am I doing something wrong? You'll want to check out lm_sensors. Not sure off the top of my head if its in the normal repos or if you have to grab it from RPMforge... It's in base. :) Tim Nelson Systems/Network Support Rockbochs Inc. (218)727-4332 x105 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Thermal information
Sergio Belkin wrote: Hi, I'd want know get thermal information on Centos 5.3 but get nohting. If I run acpitool -e, it outputs: acpitool -e Kernel version : 2.6.18-92.1.18.20060707 -ACPI version : 20060707 That doesn't look like a CentOS kernel. --- Battery status : error reading info Function Do_AC_Info_Sys: could not read directory /sys/class/power_supply/ Make sure your kernel has ACPI AC adapter support enabled. Fan: not available CPU type : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU5110 @ 1.60GHz CPU speed : 1595.980 MHz Cache size : 4096 KB Bogomips : 3193.92 Bogomips : 3191.86 # of CPU's found : 2 Processor ID : 0 Bus mastering control : no Power management : no Throttling control : yes Limit interface: yes Active C-state : C1 C-states (incl. C0): 1 T-state count : 8 Active T-state : T0 Processor ID : 1 Bus mastering control : no Power management : no Throttling control : yes Limit interface: yes Active C-state : C1 C-states (incl. C0): 1 T-state count : 8 Active T-state : T0 Thermal info : not available Device Sleep state Status --- 1. PCI0 5disabled And: grep THERMAL /boot/config-2.6.18-92.el5 CONFIG_X86_MCE_P4THERMAL=y CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y Am I doing something wrong? Thanks in advance! Not sure what acpi thermal info might be returned by your system (try looking in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone), but as it's an Intel Core based processor, coretemp should return basic CPU core temperatures. You can install the coretemp module from elrepo.org (kmod-coretemp) which should also pull in an updated lm_sensors as a dependency from the same repository. BTW, it will only work with kernels that are kABI compliant with the upstream EL5 kernel (i.e, the CentOS 5 kernel) - no guarantees it will work if you're running a custom kernel, you'd need to recompile the package against your custom kernel. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Best way to backup and entire machine??
John Plemons wrote: The web machine uses a PHP shopping cart running atop MySQL, all of the main and important information is kept as a part of the MySQL DB. So the main thing I would want to mirror is the application and the DB. I'm a surplus dealer, so hardware isn't a big issue, I have extra servers that can be up in a couple of hours without any big layout of money. I'm just looking for the best way to keep down time to a minimum and as always to KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid. Simple to manage, simple to maintain... Use rsync for the PHP files and read up on setting up mysql replication, endless howtos and stuff out there for doing that. Keep the slave db server in read-only mode until you need to fail over to it, flip the read-only bit and restart, off you go.. nate ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Thermal information
2009/9/18 Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk: Sergio Belkin wrote: Hi, I'd want know get thermal information on Centos 5.3 but get nohting. If I run acpitool -e, it outputs: acpitool -e Kernel version : 2.6.18-92.1.18.20060707 - ACPI version : 20060707 Why are you asumming so quickly that is not a Centos kernel? rpm -qi kernel Name: kernel Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.6.18Vendor: CentOS Release : 92.el5Build Date: Tue 10 Jun 2008 10:09:15 PM ART Install Date: Thu 27 Nov 2008 04:51:05 PM ARST Build Host: builder16.centos.org Group : System Environment/Kernel Source RPM: kernel-2.6.18-92.el5.src.rpm Size: 39056061 License: GPLv2 Signature : DSA/SHA1, Sat 14 Jun 2008 08:35:41 PM ART, Key ID a8a447dce8562897 URL : http://www.kernel.org/ Summary : The Linux kernel (the core of the Linux operating system) Description : The kernel package contains the Linux kernel (vmlinuz), the core of any Linux operating system. The kernel handles the basic functions of the operating system: memory allocation, process allocation, device input and output, etc. What's wrong with you? -- -- Open Kairos http://www.openkairos.com Watch More TV http://sebelk.blogspot.com Sergio Belkin - ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Thermal information
Sergio Belkin wrote: 2009/9/18 Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk: Sergio Belkin wrote: Hi, I'd want know get thermal information on Centos 5.3 but get nohting. If I run acpitool -e, it outputs: acpitool -e Kernel version : 2.6.18-92.1.18.20060707 -ACPI version : 20060707 Why are you asumming so quickly that is not a Centos kernel? Because this is what the output from 'acpitool -e' looks like for me: $ acpitool -e Kernel version : 2.6.18-164.el5 -ACPI version : 20060707 and your output shows 2.6.18-92.1.18.20060707 which is not a CentOS kernel format (to my knowledge?). I might be wrong, and am happy to be corrected if I am :) rpm -qi kernel Name: kernel Relocations: (not relocatable) Version : 2.6.18Vendor: CentOS Release : 92.el5Build Date: Tue 10 Jun Which is not the kernel you've shown running above?? What's wrong with you? Nothing, I was trying to help. Have a nice weekend. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] CentOS is dead, long live CentOS
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Ron Blizzard rb4cen...@gmail.com wrote: Which, again, is why CentOS is currently NOT accepting cash donations *until* some form of oversight is set up. Okay, but if some of the people doing the grunt work of CentOS (I won't list names here simply because I don't wish to offend any of you by forgetting to mention a name) ever find themselves in the Stockholm area, I'll happily donate a beer or two :-D BR Bent Terp (who still believes we get *better* support from the CentOS team than customers get from RedHat) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
