[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0370 Moderate CentOS 4 x86_64 wireshark - security update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2011:0370 wireshark security update for CentOS 4 x86_64: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0370.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: x86_64: wireshark-1.0.15-2.el4.x86_64.rpm wireshark-gnome-1.0.15-2.el4.x86_64.rpm src: wireshark-1.0.15-2.el4.src.rpm signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
[CentOS-announce] CESA-2011:0370 Moderate CentOS 4 i386 wireshark - security update
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2011:0370 wireshark security update for CentOS 4 1386: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2011-0370.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: wireshark-1.0.15-2.el4.i386.rpm wireshark-gnome-1.0.15-2.el4.i386.rpm src: wireshark-1.0.15-2.el4.src.rpm signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS-announce mailing list CentOS-announce@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-announce
Re: [CentOS-es] Libreria - libgcc
Hola, - yum history con esto ves las últimas acciones con yum. - yum history info num, donde num es un ID de acción y puedes ver que ha pasado. - yum history undo num, deshace la acción. Estas opciones todavía no están en CentOS 5, pero si en 6...a tener en cuenta. -- Oscar Osta Pueyo oostap.lis...@gmail.com _kiakli_ ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Borré /boot ¿Podría reinstalarlo?
Gracias por el aporte Oscar. Lo revisé y no tengo habilitado SElinux en este servidor. En cuanto reinicie el servidor comentaré en este foro si resultó o no. Por el momento tendré que esperar al momento más adecuado para hacerlo. Saludos y gracias a todos por su ayuda. Miguel A. Velasco Ing de Sistemas Hola Miguel, Si tienes el SELinux activado yo haría un ls -lZ para comprobar que todos los ficheros tengan el contexto bien etiquetado, no sea que al reiniciar SELinux no te deje ejecutar algunos ficheros... Supongo que habiendo instalado el kernel y grub desde rpm's ya debería estar bien etiquetados...pero bueno, es un momento comprobar esto. Suerte!!! ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS 5.6 y 6.0
Julio Martinez wrote: Bueno, en el foro en ingles https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=29147viewmode=flatorder=ASCstart=420 hay una discusion bastante agitada desde gente molesta por la falta de comunicacion de los desarrolladores, pasando gente que los apoya y gente cambiandose a Scientific Linux, hay opiniones de todos los sabores. Pero como dijo Javier esto toma tiempo. Centos 6 fue dejado de lado hasta que la version 5.6 salga a la luz (ofrecieron 5.6 para la 3ra semana de Marzo, asi que debe estar por salir, pero no es seguro) debido a que es mas importante que la gente que actualmente tiene CentOS 5.5 se proteja por los bugs de seguridad (no hemos recibido actualizaciones de 5.5 en mucho tiempo como habran notado). Centos 6 sera retomado inmediatamente despues de 5.6, y se a propósito, si han salido actualizaciones de seguridad, ellos sí están priorizando actualizaciones que son estrictamente necesarias. Mientras tanto además sugiero estudien la posibilidad de usar http://www.ksplice.com/ para mantener el kernel actualizado, cuesta un poquito al mes, y no, no es propaganda, es al menos como he solucionado mantener el kernel actualizadísimo. saludos epe ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] Problema de Red
Primero saber que es lo que te reconoce el sistema. Prueba con lspci y mira que te dice de la placa de red. También ifconfig puede darte alguna pista sobre el tema. Danos algo más de información para poder ayudarte. Un saludo. - Mensaje original - | Hola lista, le comento que tengo una PC en linux en la cual he | cambiado | la motherboard, es decir en la vida real lo que tengo es el disco duro | en una board nueva, como es lógico la configuración de red está hecha | para la board anterior, como hago para que la red funcione ya que no | me | reconoce la tarjeta de red la nueva board. gracias de antemano al | que pueda ayudar... | ___ | CentOS-es mailing list | CentOS-es@centos.org | http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es | _ | Mensaje analizado y protegido por Telefonica Grandes Clientes ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS 5.6 y 6.0
Sip, algo de eso estuve leyendo, aparte también está el tema de CentOS 4.9 al que le dieron aún mas prioridad y ya vio la luz :-) Yo vengo usando CentOS desde hace algunos años y me parece una magnifica distribución, no es que quiera apurar a nadie, solo me dio curiosidad el porque de la demora; pero viendo el contexto me doy cuenta que hay razones más que suficientes para este retraso así que seguiré esperando pacientemente, ya saldrá cuando esté listo ... cuando tenga que salir. Saludos y gracias por los comentarios. Javier. -Mensaje original- De: centos-es-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-es-boun...@centos.org] En nombre de Julio Martinez Enviado el: lunes, 21 de marzo de 2011 10:04 p.m. Para: centos-es@centos.org Asunto: Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS 5.6 y 6.0 Bueno, en el foro en ingles https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=29147viewmode=f latorder=ASCstart=420 hay una discusion bastante agitada desde gente molesta por la falta de comunicacion de los desarrolladores, pasando gente que los apoya y gente cambiandose a Scientific Linux, hay opiniones de todos los sabores. Pero como dijo Javier esto toma tiempo. Centos 6 fue dejado de lado hasta que la version 5.6 salga a la luz (ofrecieron 5.6 para la 3ra semana de Marzo, asi que debe estar por salir, pero no es seguro) debido a que es mas importante que la gente que actualmente tiene CentOS 5.5 se proteja por los bugs de seguridad (no hemos recibido actualizaciones de 5.5 en mucho tiempo como habran notado). Centos 6 sera retomado inmediatamente despues de 5.6, y se calcula que para la 3ra semana de Abril este lista pero como dije anteriormente, nada seguro. Scientific Linux ya tiene su version 6 final en https://www.scientificlinux.org/download. Segun lo que he leido el parentezco entre SL y RHEL no es tan buena como la de CentOS y RHEL pero no he probado aun asi que no puedo opinar de las diferencias con certeza. Paciencia amigos, CentOS 5.6 y CentOS 6 saldran cuando esten listos, y no antes Saludos Julio --- On Mon, 21/3/11, Javier Aquino H. jaqu...@lexuseditores.com wrote: From: Javier Aquino H. jaqu...@lexuseditores.com Subject: [CentOS-es] CentOS 5.6 y 6.0 To: centos-es@centos.org Date: Monday, 21 March, 2011, 17:28 Hola a todos Alguien sabe aproximadamente cuando sale CentOS 5.6 y 6.0 ??? ... ví que Oracle ya sacó hace unas semanas atrás sus versiones correspondientes de Oracle Enterprise Linux 5.6 y 6.0 y también hizo lo mismo Scientific Linux (SC Linux 5.6 y 6.0) que son los clones que conozco de Red Hat. Alguien sabe que está pasando con los desarrolladores de CentOS que al parecer están un poco atrasados con este tema . Saludos y pasen un buen dia, Javier. ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] OpenLDAP y Centos DS
Hola gente, es mi primer mensaje y sin duda no será el último, porque esta muy buena la lista. En el trabajo tengo Centos 5.5 con Centos DS, con la consola y el servidor de administración y anda muy bien. Ahora bien, necesito en otro trabajo instalar un pequeño servidor con menos de 50 usuarios y poner algunos servicios a autenticar sobre ldap, y me surge la duda de instalar Centos DS o OpenLDAP. Los usuarios accederán al directorio usando ( LAM http://www.ldap-account-manager.org/ ) porque phpmyadmin lo veo muy técnico para los solo-programadores je... Para este servidor busco armar una solución simple de instalar y administrar, antes que robusto y que requiera demasiados recursos para funcionar. Si pueden darme alguna recomendación de sus experiencias se los agradecería mucho, no les pido que se explayen mucho ya vi que hay mucho en la web ( como http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-es/2010-August/008051.html ) Saludos! ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] (sin asunto)
para qué replicarlo, no te parece? Muy inteligente de tu parte. El 22/03/2011 04:48 p.m., Alejandro Marin Maturano escribió: que poca madre el que mando esto El 20/03/2011 09:27 p.m., Freddy Zavaleta escribió: http://www.lampugnani.com/i2332.html ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
[CentOS-es] video conferencia
Hola buenas tardes: instale en centos 5.5 ldap+openfire y como cliente estoy usando spark, solo que no puedo hacer funcionar el plugin de video conferencia, lei que hay que descargar red5.jar para que funciones lastimosamente no lo encuentro, alguien instalo y logro hacer funcionar? Atte Jose Manuel GPG Key ID: UBCMEOLVQMHEILINJBE ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] video conferencia
Hola encontre esto navegando por ahi. espero te sea de ayuda. http://pankajdangi.com/2010/01/steps-to-install-red5-on-linux/ Atte. Mario. 2011/3/22 Jose Manuel Ajhuacho Vargas jose_t...@yahoo.es Hola buenas tardes: instale en centos 5.5 ldap+openfire y como cliente estoy usando spark, solo que no puedo hacer funcionar el plugin de video conferencia, lei que hay que descargar red5.jar para que funciones lastimosamente no lo encuentro, alguien instalo y logro hacer funcionar? Atte Jose Manuel GPG Key ID: UBCMEOLVQMHEILINJBE ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS-es] OpenLDAP y Centos DS
Perdón, creo que se entendió, pero quise decir ...porque *phpldapadmin* lo veo muy técnico... 2011/3/22 Gastón Dall' Oglio gaston.dallog...@gmail.com Hola gente, es mi primer mensaje y sin duda no será el último, porque esta muy buena la lista. En el trabajo tengo Centos 5.5 con Centos DS, con la consola y el servidor de administración y anda muy bien. Ahora bien, necesito en otro trabajo instalar un pequeño servidor con menos de 50 usuarios y poner algunos servicios a autenticar sobre ldap, y me surge la duda de instalar Centos DS o OpenLDAP. Los usuarios accederán al directorio usando ( LAM http://www.ldap-account-manager.org/ ) porque phpmyadmin lo veo muy técnico para los solo-programadores je... Para este servidor busco armar una solución simple de instalar y administrar, antes que robusto y que requiera demasiados recursos para funcionar. Si pueden darme alguna recomendación de sus experiencias se los agradecería mucho, no les pido que se explayen mucho ya vi que hay mucho en la web ( como http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-es/2010-August/008051.html ) Saludos! ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es
Re: [CentOS] Apache/Active Directory authentication
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011, Michael B Allen wrote: Hi John, You would not have to create dummy machine records. The servicePrincipalName attribute on an AD account is multi-valued and clients can request and get a ticket for ANY principal in that list. So you only need one account. And you do not need special permissions if you have an existing keytab because you can use the keytab to authenticate with AD and add servicePrincipalName values to the account itself. At least in theory you can. I don't know if Samba's routine for adding HTTP SPNs is smart enough to know that it needs to not just add servicePrincipalName values but that it will also need to rebuild the keytab. Yes, but using the machine principal you're able to request any number of service principals that are SERVICENAME/machinename. For this to work in a virtual hosting environment, you need multiple machine names (since we're talking about making a number of HTTP/blah principals). Whilst I accept this is possible, I don't see how you'd do it without being a domain admin. How do I create the records starting from a position of only having the machine credential for the web server, and at best another user credential with rights to create machine objects? With domain admin rights, I get how your scheme works, although it wasn't a route I'd previously considered. jh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Affordable KVM over IP switch
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Miguel Medalha miguelmeda...@sapo.pt wrote: Are there any KVM over IP switches that are not thousands of dollars? Ideally a 3-4 port switch for a few hundred seems reasonable to me. Try this 8-port one from LevelOne: http://global.level1.com/Business-Products/KVM-Switches---Extenders/Rackmount-KVM-Switches/KVM-0831/421.html It has an expansion slot which accepts a IP module: http://download.level1.com/level1/manual/ACC-2000v1.0_UM.pdf I use the base KVM, without the IP module, and it is very stable. It connects a USB keyboard and a USB mouse to USB and/or PS2 ports on the servers. It is also cascadable. I hope this helps. Which is about $400, not counting cables, which are expensive. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
Hello community.
We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF with 2xIntel Xeon
E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G
For some time we have lots of MCE in mcelog and we cant find out the
reason.
The only thing that shows there (when it shows, since sometimes it doesn't
seem to) is a hardware error. You *WILL* be replacing hardware, sometime
soon, like yesterday.
Normal is not: *ANYTHING* here is Bad News. First, you've got DIMMs
failing. CPU 53, assuming this system doesn't have 53+ physical CPUs,
means that you have x-core systems, so you need to divide by x, so that if
it's a 12-core system with 6 physical chips, that would make it DIMM 8
associated with that physical CPU.
snip
One more interesting thins is the following output:
[root@zuno]# cat /var/log/mcelog |grep CPU|sort|awk '{print $2}'|uniq
32
33
34
35
50
51
52
53
Those numbers are always the same.
Bad news: you have *two* DIMMs failing, one associated with the physical
CPU that has core 53, and another associated with the physical CPU that
has cores 32-35.
Talk to your OEM support to help identify which banks need replacing,
and/or find a motherboard diagram.
mark, who has to deal *again* with one machine with the same
problem
Tnx for the asnwer!
Last night we'v made some research to find out which RAM modules bugged.
To be noticed we have 8 modules 4G each.
First we'v removed a3,b1 slots for each cpu, and there were no changes in
HW behaviour. Errors appeared after boot.
Then we'v removed a1,a2 (yes i know that for hight performance we should
place modules starting from a1 but it was our mistake and in any case server
started) and ...and there were no errors during 1h. Usually we can observer
errors coming ~every 5 mins.
Then we'v placed back 2 modules. At that step we had a1,a3,b1 slots occupied
for each cpu. No errors.
Finally we'v placed last 2 modules...and no errors. It should be noticed
that at that step we have exactly the same modules placement as before
experiment.
Sounds strange, but at first glance looks like smthg was wrong with modules
placement. But we cant realise why the problem didnt show for the first
days, even month of server running. Noone touched server HW, so i have no
idea what was that.
Now we are just waiting will there be errors again.
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Re: [CentOS] Affordable KVM over IP switch
Which is about $400, not counting cables, which are expensive. Well, you said not thousands of dollars... And I bought the cables for about 20 dollars each. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Vladimir Budnev
vladimir.bud...@gmail.com wrote:
2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
Hello community.
We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF with 2xIntel Xeon
E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G
For some time we have lots of MCE in mcelog and we cant find out the
reason.
The only thing that shows there (when it shows, since sometimes it doesn't
seem to) is a hardware error. You *WILL* be replacing hardware, sometime
soon, like yesterday.
Normal is not: *ANYTHING* here is Bad News. First, you've got DIMMs
failing. CPU 53, assuming this system doesn't have 53+ physical CPUs,
means that you have x-core systems, so you need to divide by x, so that if
it's a 12-core system with 6 physical chips, that would make it DIMM 8
associated with that physical CPU.
snip
One more interesting thins is the following output:
[root@zuno]# cat /var/log/mcelog |grep CPU|sort|awk '{print $2}'|uniq
32
33
34
35
50
51
52
53
Those numbers are always the same.
Bad news: you have *two* DIMMs failing, one associated with the physical
CPU that has core 53, and another associated with the physical CPU that
has cores 32-35.
Talk to your OEM support to help identify which banks need replacing,
and/or find a motherboard diagram.
mark, who has to deal *again* with one machine with the same
problem
Tnx for the asnwer!
Last night we'v made some research to find out which RAM modules bugged.
To be noticed we have 8 modules 4G each.
First we'v removed a3,b1 slots for each cpu, and there were no changes in
HW behaviour. Errors appeared after boot.
Then we'v removed a1,a2 (yes i know that for hight performance we should
place modules starting from a1 but it was our mistake and in any case server
started) and ...and there were no errors during 1h. Usually we can observer
errors coming ~every 5 mins.
Then we'v placed back 2 modules. At that step we had a1,a3,b1 slots occupied
for each cpu. No errors.
Finally we'v placed last 2 modules...and no errors. It should be noticed
that at that step we have exactly the same modules placement as before
experiment.
Sounds strange, but at first glance looks like smthg was wrong with modules
placement. But we cant realise why the problem didnt show for the first
days, even month of server running. Noone touched server HW, so i have no
idea what was that.
Now we are just waiting will there be errors again.
You know..
I once had a *whole rack* of blade servers, running CentOS, where
someone decided to save money by buying the memory separately and
replacing it in-house. Slews of memory errors started up pretty soon.
and I wound up having to reseat all of it, run some memory testing
tools against them, juggle the good memory with the bad memory to get
working systems, replace DIMM's, etc., etc. We kept seeing failures
over the next few months as part of the falling part of a bathtub
curve.
I was furious that we'd saved perhaps 2 thousand bucks on RAM,
overall, and completely burned a month of my time and made our clients
*VERY* unhappy and come out looking like fools for not having this
very expensive piece of kit working from day one.
In the process, though, some of the systems were repaired
permanently by simply reseating the RAM. I did handle them
carefully, cleaning the filters, removing any dust (of which there was
very little, they were new) and checking all the cabling. I also
cleaned up the airflow a bit by doing some recabling and relabeling,
normal practice when I have a rack down and a chance to make sure
things go where they shouuld.
And I *carefully* cleaned up the blood where I cut my hand on the heat
sink on the one system. Maybe it was the blood sacrifice that appeased
the gods on that server?
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Re: [CentOS] Affordable KVM over IP switch
You can pick up a Dell/Avocent 2161DS on eBay for $400-500 USD. -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Michael B Allen Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 11:16 PM To: CentOS Subject: [CentOS] Affordable KVM over IP switch Hello, Are there any KVM over IP switches that are not thousands of dollars? Ideally a 3-4 port switch for a few hundred seems reasonable to me. Mike -- Michael B Allen Java Active Directory Integration http://www.ioplex.com/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] dns question
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Re: [CentOS] dns question
What do you mean by refresh rate of the dns server? Like TTL length of records? Or..? Aly --Original Message-- From: ann kok Sender: centos-boun...@centos.org To: centos@centos.org ReplyTo: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] dns question Sent: Mar 22, 2011 9:13 AM Hi all How can I know the refresh rate of the dns server? Thank you ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Duplicate Mails
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: Hi, There were still several hundreds of duplicate mails awaiting delivery to this list. It's an automated enhancement for our weekly re-hashing of why Centos 5.6 is late. The user reinjecting the mails has been identified and shot^Wbanned from the mailing list, he cannot resubscribe. Wow ... Killfiles that really kill! Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Affordable KVM over IP switch
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Michael B Allen iop...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Are there any KVM over IP switches that are not thousands of dollars? Ideally a 3-4 port switch for a few hundred seems reasonable to me. Mike -- Michael B Allen You could get a regular KVM, then connect a Lantronix Spider or Spider Duo to the console side of the KVM. I have done this locally and it works for the most part. Make sure to get the PS/2 version as the USB version provides a composite keyboard/mouse connection, which is probably not supported by cheaper KVMs. http://www.lantronix.com/it-management/kvm-over-ip/securelinx-spider.html http://www.lantronix.com/it-management/kvm-over-ip/securelinx-spiderduo.html ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Some relevant information
Hello everyone: * DNS does not have a refresh rate. In DNS, the person running the domain determines what the refresh rate (it's called TTL in DNS) for their records is; for example, Google has a TTL of once per hour and my domains (maradns.org, etc.) have a TTL of one day. * As mentioned before, Scientific Linux 6.0 is out. What hasn't been mentioned here is that while SL 5.6 hasn't come out, 5.6 security updates are being backported to SL 5.5. Ditto with SL 4 (no 4.9 but security patches look current) Take care everyone, - Sam ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: Hello community. We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF with 2xIntel Xeon E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G For some time we have lots of MCE in mcelog and we cant find out the reason. The only thing that shows there (when it shows, since sometimes it doesn't seem to) is a hardware error. You *WILL* be replacing hardware, sometime soon, like yesterday. snip Bad news: you have *two* DIMMs failing, one associated with the physical CPU that has core 53, and another associated with the physical CPU that has cores 32-35. snip Last night we'v made some research to find out which RAM modules bugged. To be noticed we have 8 modules 4G each. snip Finally we'v placed last 2 modules...and no errors. It should be noticed that at that step we have exactly the same modules placement as before experiment. Sounds strange, but at first glance looks like smthg was wrong with modules placement. But we cant realise why the problem didnt show for the first days, even month of server running. Noone touched server HW, so i have no idea what was that. Now we are just waiting will there be errors again. I'm sure there will. Reseating the memory may have done something, but there will, I'll wager. Here's a question out of left field: who was the manufacturer of the 4G DIMMs? Not Supermicro, but the DIMMs themselves? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Duplicate Mails
Brunner, Brian T. wrote: centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: There were still several hundreds of duplicate mails awaiting delivery to this list. It's an automated enhancement for our weekly re-hashing of why Centos 5.6 is late. Hey, cool! Then you just save the last 100 or so emails about Why It's So Long, and resend them? So that those who want to get in that thread will follow that, and so that some folks won't post again, since everything they want to say is alread said... and they won't start new threads, so that all the rest of us can have just one filter for them all? I like it. g The user reinjecting the mails has been identified and shot^Wbanned from the mailing list, he cannot resubscribe. Wow ... Killfiles that really kill! And list admins who actually read the list, he typed, thinking of a Certain Upstream Vendor mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: Hello community. We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF with 2xIntel Xeon E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G For some time we have lots of MCE in mcelog and we cant find out the reason. The only thing that shows there (when it shows, since sometimes it doesn't seem to) is a hardware error. You *WILL* be replacing hardware, sometime soon, like yesterday. snip Bad news: you have *two* DIMMs failing, one associated with the physical CPU that has core 53, and another associated with the physical CPU that has cores 32-35. snip Last night we'v made some research to find out which RAM modules bugged. To be noticed we have 8 modules 4G each. snip Finally we'v placed last 2 modules...and no errors. It should be noticed that at that step we have exactly the same modules placement as before experiment. Sounds strange, but at first glance looks like smthg was wrong with modules placement. But we cant realise why the problem didnt show for the first days, even month of server running. Noone touched server HW, so i have no idea what was that. Now we are just waiting will there be errors again. I'm sure there will. Reseating the memory may have done something, but there will, I'll wager. mark, you are absolutely right :) Approximetely 1h ago errors appeared. They appeared only once since reboot, but they r back. Hi there :( The good idea is that CPU numbers changed, so now we have cpu 1,2,3 and 18,19,20,21.We definetely moved broken modules to another slots. Anyway bad dimm is really a good news for us instead of e.g. motherboard. We are going to continue party this night or tomorrow morning, and determin which two modules are broken. Is it possible to determine which physical dimms correspond to those cpus noticed in mce messagees? We have two rows of slots(6 slot for each row) one for cpu1 and second for cpu2. Used slots marked as cpu1-a1,cpu1-a2,cpu1-a3,cpu1-b1 and cpu2-a1,cpu2-a2,cpu2-a3,cpu2-b1. I remeber that you adviced to divide cpu number on physical core count. We have 2 quad core proc, so 8 cpu. 1/8=0 Is it cpu-a1 slot or depends on situation? I hope we will find those bustards ourselvs but hint would be great. And one more thing i cant funderstand ... if there is,say, 8 cpu numbers per each memory module(in our situation), why we see only 4 numbers and not 8 e.g. 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 ? Here's a question out of left field: who was the manufacturer of the 4G DIMMs? Not Supermicro, but the DIMMs themselves? This is Kingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G if i got the question ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF with 2xIntel Xeon E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G For some time we have lots of MCE in mcelog and we cant find out the reason. The only thing that shows there (when it shows, since sometimes it doesn't seem to) is a hardware error. You *WILL* be replacing hardware, sometime soon, like yesterday. snip Bad news: you have *two* DIMMs failing, one associated with the physical CPU that has core 53, and another associated with the physical CPU that has cores 32-35. snip, memory reseating Now we are just waiting will there be errors again. I'm sure there will. Reseating the memory may have done something, but there will, I'll wager. mark, you are absolutely right :) Approximetely 1h ago errors appeared. They appeared only once since reboot, but they r back. Hi there :( The good idea is that CPU numbers changed, so now we have cpu 1,2,3 and 18,19,20,21.We definetely moved broken modules to another slots. Anyway bad dimm is really a good news for us instead of e.g. motherboard. snip Is it possible to determine which physical dimms correspond to those cpus noticed in mce messagees? We have two rows of slots(6 slot for each row) one for cpu1 and second for cpu2. Used slots marked as cpu1-a1,cpu1-a2,cpu1-a3,cpu1-b1 and cpu2-a1,cpu2-a2,cpu2-a3,cpu2-b1. I remeber that you adviced to divide cpu number on physical core count. We have 2 quad core proc, so 8 cpu. 1/8=0 Is it cpu-a1 slot or depends on situation? I hope we will find those bustards ourselvs but hint would be great. And one more thing i cant funderstand ... if there is,say, 8 cpu numbers per each memory module(in our situation), why we see only 4 numbers and not 8 e.g. 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 ? I'm now confused about a lot: originally, you mentioned 53 - 57, was it? That doesn't add up, since you say you have 2 quad core processors, for a total of 8 cpus, and each of those processors have 6 banks, which would mean each processor should only see six (directly). Where I'm confused is how you could have cores 32-35, or 53-whatsit, when you only have 8 cores in two processors. Here's a question out of left field: who was the manufacturer of the 4G DIMMs? Not Supermicro, but the DIMMs themselves? This is Kingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G if i got the question Oh, ok. I was wondering if they were Hynix - I've seen a good number of bad 4G and 8G DIMMs from them recently, and that across three different OEMs and model DIMMs. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Need help in repairing the booting of my Linux 4 server
Digimer wrote: On 03/21/2011 08:13 PM, Todd Cary wrote: How can I determine the device on which the mbr is placed? I tried the following: # chroot /mnt/sysimage # grub-install /dev/hda Read further down, and read the grub man page (from a good system); 'grub-install' is not recommended. I generally go through the manual process, and suggest you do the same. I don't see any such warning in the grub or grub-install man pages on CentOS-5.5 or Fedora-14. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF with 2xIntel Xeon E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G For some time we have lots of MCE in mcelog and we cant find out the reason. The only thing that shows there (when it shows, since sometimes it doesn't seem to) is a hardware error. You *WILL* be replacing hardware, sometime soon, like yesterday. snip Bad news: you have *two* DIMMs failing, one associated with the physical CPU that has core 53, and another associated with the physical CPU that has cores 32-35. snip, memory reseating Now we are just waiting will there be errors again. I'm sure there will. Reseating the memory may have done something, but there will, I'll wager. mark, you are absolutely right :) Approximetely 1h ago errors appeared. They appeared only once since reboot, but they r back. Hi there :( The good idea is that CPU numbers changed, so now we have cpu 1,2,3 and 18,19,20,21.We definetely moved broken modules to another slots. Anyway bad dimm is really a good news for us instead of e.g. motherboard. snip Is it possible to determine which physical dimms correspond to those cpus noticed in mce messagees? We have two rows of slots(6 slot for each row) one for cpu1 and second for cpu2. Used slots marked as cpu1-a1,cpu1-a2,cpu1-a3,cpu1-b1 and cpu2-a1,cpu2-a2,cpu2-a3,cpu2-b1. I remeber that you adviced to divide cpu number on physical core count. We have 2 quad core proc, so 8 cpu. 1/8=0 Is it cpu-a1 slot or depends on situation? I hope we will find those bustards ourselvs but hint would be great. And one more thing i cant funderstand ... if there is,say, 8 cpu numbers per each memory module(in our situation), why we see only 4 numbers and not 8 e.g. 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 ? I'm now confused about a lot: originally, you mentioned 53 - 57, was it? That doesn't add up, since you say you have 2 quad core processors, for a total of 8 cpus, and each of those processors have 6 banks, which would mean each processor should only see six (directly). Where I'm confused is how you could have cores 32-35, or 53-whatsit, when you only have 8 cores in two processors. 2 cpu each 8 cores and HT support. So 16 at max i think. for such way is it ok? I really lost the idea line with those cpu to memory bank mappings... Here's a question out of left field: who was the manufacturer of the 4G DIMMs? Not Supermicro, but the DIMMs themselves? This is Kingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G if i got the question Oh, ok. I was wondering if they were Hynix - I've seen a good number of bad 4G and 8G DIMMs from them recently, and that across three different OEMs and model DIMMs. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] dns question
As was previously mentioned, you need to be more clear about what you're asking. There are multiple related concepts. Look up a description of the SOA record, in particular the refresh, retry, expire, and minimum TTL fields. The first three affect how DNS secondary servers behave. The last can affect client responses, but you can also have per-record TTL values and zone default TTL values. This link might be a good starting point for understanding the SOA parameters: http://rscott.org/dns/soa.html If you're trying to solve a problem with DNS secondaries keeping up, watch that you're incrementing the serial number. If you're using split zones (views) or other esoteric configurations, things get a whole lot more complicated. -- Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film. - Steven Wright ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Affordable KVM over IP switch
Michael B Allen iop...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any KVM over IP switches that are not thousands of dollars? Ideally a 3-4 port switch for a few hundred seems reasonable to me. I can attest that the Adderlink iPEPS and iPEPS-DA are excellent units. They're both in the 500-1000 range. They're intended for a single machine, but as long as your access policies allow for it, putting an electronic KVM switch (~$200) between multiple servers and the iPEPS works well. You're not going to find much that is usable under that price range. Some of the lower end solutions from other vendors are windows-IE-only. The iPEPS uses encrypted VNC. -- Everyone has a photographic memory. Some don't have film. - Steven Wright ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF with 2xIntel Xeon E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G For some time we have lots of MCE in mcelog and we cant find out the reason. The only thing that shows there (when it shows, since sometimes it doesn't seem to) is a hardware error. You *WILL* be replacing hardware, sometime soon, like yesterday. snip We have 2 quad core proc, so 8 cpu. 1/8=0 Is it cpu-a1 slot or depends on situation? I hope we will find those bustards ourselvs but hint would be great. And one more thing i cant funderstand ... if there is,say, 8 cpu numbers per each memory module(in our situation), why we see only 4 numbers and not 8 e.g. 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 ? I'm now confused about a lot: originally, you mentioned 53 - 57, was it? That doesn't add up, since you say you have 2 quad core processors, for a total of 8 cpus, and each of those processors have 6 banks, which would mean each processor should only see six (directly). Where I'm confused is how you could have cores 32-35, or 53-whatsit, when you only have 8 cores in two processors. 2 cpu each 8 cores and HT support. So 16 at max i think. for such way is it ok? Huh? Above, you say 2 quad core proc - that's 8 cores over two processor chips. HT support doesn't figure into it; if you use dmidecode or lshw, I believe it will show you 8 cores, not 16. I really lost the idea line with those cpu to memory bank mappings... Each processor will directly see the DIMMs associate with it, so that the banks associated with each processor will be what directly affects the cores. So, if you see something like Mar 20 05:01:35 system name kernel: Northbridge Error, node 0, core: 5 (these processors are 8-core), it means that one of the DIMMs in bank 0, 0-3, is bad. You should see __ |_0| 0 1 2 3 __ |_1| 0 1 2 3 or whatever on the m/b, so one of the top ones there is affected. Is that any clearer? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Affordable KVM over IP switch
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Devin Reade g...@gno.org wrote: Michael B Allen iop...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any KVM over IP switches that are not thousands of dollars? Ideally a 3-4 port switch for a few hundred seems reasonable to me. I can attest that the Adderlink iPEPS and iPEPS-DA are excellent units. They're both in the 500-1000 range. They're intended for a single machine, but as long as your access policies allow for it, putting an electronic KVM switch (~$200) between multiple servers and the iPEPS works well. Isn't it cheaper, at this price range to get a motherboard with built-in KVMOIP support? I know many Intel SuperMicro server boards offer this either on board, or as an added module. Even on the smaller / cheaper SuperMicro boards I could add KVMOIP support for about $40 per server. And, it doesn't takup any more space on the racks and has much less clutter than those spiders -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers SoftDux Website: http://www.SoftDux.com Technical Blog: http://Blog.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF with 2xIntel Xeon E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G For some time we have lots of MCE in mcelog and we cant find out the reason. The only thing that shows there (when it shows, since sometimes it doesn't seem to) is a hardware error. You *WILL* be replacing hardware, sometime soon, like yesterday. snip We have 2 quad core proc, so 8 cpu. 1/8=0 Is it cpu-a1 slot or depends on situation? I hope we will find those bustards ourselvs but hint would be great. And one more thing i cant funderstand ... if there is,say, 8 cpu numbers per each memory module(in our situation), why we see only 4 numbers and not 8 e.g. 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 ? I'm now confused about a lot: originally, you mentioned 53 - 57, was it? That doesn't add up, since you say you have 2 quad core processors, for a total of 8 cpus, and each of those processors have 6 banks, which would mean each processor should only see six (directly). Where I'm confused is how you could have cores 32-35, or 53-whatsit, when you only have 8 cores in two processors. 2 cpu each 8 cores and HT support. So 16 at max i think. for such way is it ok? Huh? Above, you say 2 quad core proc - that's 8 cores over two processor chips. HT support doesn't figure into it; if you use dmidecode or lshw, I believe it will show you 8 cores, not 16. Was a typo, sorry. 2 CPU and each one has 4 cores so totally 8 cores. I really lost the idea line with those cpu to memory bank mappings... Each processor will directly see the DIMMs associate with it, so that the banks associated with each processor will be what directly affects the cores. So, if you see something like Mar 20 05:01:35 system name kernel: Northbridge Error, node 0, core: 5 (these processors are 8-core), it means that one of the DIMMs in bank 0, 0-3, is bad. You should see __ |_0| 0 1 2 3 __ |_1| 0 1 2 3 or whatever on the m/b, so one of the top ones there is affected. Is that any clearer? First of all big thnx for helping mark. In your example everything is ok. But i am lost with what we have. Previously we recieved messages like i post in the first mail: CPU 51 BANK 8 TSC 8511e3ca77dc MISC 274d587f6141 ADDR 807044840 STATUS cc005501009f MCGSTATU And always there were same cpu numbers. I really dont know why do mcleog show such numbers but thats what we have.Always Bank 8 and there were 32,33,34,45 and 50,51,52,53 numbers in CPU field. You encouraged us that it is a dimm problem and we decide to make a little research which i described up the thread. During that wev replaced DIMM moduels between slots, so now we have BANK 8 and cpu 1,2,3 and 18,29,20,21. It really seems that some how those numbers connected with RAM modules. But... as i sad we have following slots CPU1cpu1-a1 cpu1-a2 cpu1-a3 cpu1-b1 cpu1-b2 cpu1-b3 CPU2cpu2-a1 cpu2-a2 cpu2-a3 cpu2-b1 cpu2-b2 cpu2-b3 We have modules placed in such way: ++++++++ | | V | V | V | V | free|free| ++++++++ | CPU1 | cpu1-a1| cpu1-a2 | cpu1-a3 | cpu1-b1 | cpu1-b2| cpu1-b3 | ++++++++ ++++++++ | | V | V | V | V | free|free| ++++++++ | CPU2 | cpu2-a1| cpu2-a2 | cpu2-a3 | cpu2-b1 | cpu1-b2| cpu1-b3 | ++++++++ Definetely there is something with memory banks,becasue replacinbg moudels changed the mce messages, but what exactly...or iv interpreted all wrong? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Affordable KVM over IP switch
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Devin Reade g...@gno.org wrote: Michael B Allen iop...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any KVM over IP switches that are not thousands of dollars? Ideally a 3-4 port switch for a few hundred seems reasonable to me. I can attest that the Adderlink iPEPS and iPEPS-DA are excellent units. They're both in the 500-1000 range. They're intended for a single machine, but as long as your access policies allow for it, putting an electronic KVM switch (~$200) between multiple servers and the iPEPS works well. Isn't it cheaper, at this price range to get a motherboard with built-in KVMOIP support? I know many Intel SuperMicro server boards offer this either on board, or as an added module. Even on the smaller / cheaper SuperMicro boards I could add KVMOIP support for about $40 per server. And, it doesn't takup any more space on the racks and has much less clutter than those spiders Note. This is *NOT* CentOS, this is general systems discussion. That's great until you want to connect another session, or haven't had a chance to configure a new machine and want to do it remotely, or you want to leave your mom's netbook in the rack while you re-install it for her. (This just came up on another list.) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Affordable KVM over IP switch
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Devin Reade g...@gno.org wrote: Michael B Allen iop...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any KVM over IP switches that are not thousands of dollars? Ideally a 3-4 port switch for a few hundred seems reasonable to me. I can attest that the Adderlink iPEPS and iPEPS-DA are excellent units. They're both in the 500-1000 range. They're intended for a single machine, but as long as your access policies allow for it, putting an electronic KVM switch (~$200) between multiple servers and the iPEPS works well. Isn't it cheaper, at this price range to get a motherboard with built-in KVMOIP support? I know many Intel SuperMicro server boards offer this either on board, or as an added module. Even on the smaller / cheaper SuperMicro boards I could add KVMOIP support for about $40 per server. And, it doesn't takup any more space on the racks and has much less clutter than those spiders Note. This is *NOT* CentOS, this is general systems discussion. That's great until you want to connect another session, or haven't had a chance to configure a new machine and want to do it remotely, or you want to leave your mom's netbook in the rack while you re-install it for her. (This just came up on another list.) ___ True... Both have their pro's con's, but in our case we'll always only use rackmount servers which is why I prefer the onboard modules. -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers SoftDux Website: http://www.SoftDux.com Technical Blog: http://Blog.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
Hi :) On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Vladimir Budnev vladimir.bud...@gmail.com wrote: [...] But... as i sad we have following slots CPU1 cpu1-a1 cpu1-a2 cpu1-a3 cpu1-b1 cpu1-b2 cpu1-b3 CPU2 cpu2-a1 cpu2-a2 cpu2-a3 cpu2-b1 cpu2-b2 cpu2-b3 We have modules placed in such way: ++++++++ | | V | V | V | V | free | free | ++++++++ | CPU1 | cpu1-a1| cpu1-a2 | cpu1-a3 | cpu1-b1 | cpu1-b2| cpu1-b3 | ++++++++ ++++++++ | | V | V | V | V | free | free | ++++++++ | CPU2 | cpu2-a1| cpu2-a2 | cpu2-a3 | cpu2-b1 | cpu1-b2| cpu1-b3 | ++++++++ Definetely there is something with memory banks,becasue replacinbg moudels changed the mce messages, but what exactly...or iv interpreted all wrong? This isn't an optimal setup (performance-wise). You should always populate complete slots in multiples of 3 to get the full bandwidth. In your case, you've got cpu1-b[2|3] and cpu2-b[2|3] with no DIMMs so that would affect your performance. HTH Rafa ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF with 2xIntel Xeon E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G The next thing you should do, if you don't have them, is go to http://www.supermicro.com/support/manuals/ and d/l the manual, and see what it says about DIMMs. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF with 2xIntel Xeon E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G The next thing you should do, if you don't have them, is go to http://www.supermicro.com/support/manuals/ and d/l the manual, and see what it says about DIMMs. If you meaned to check whether those DIMM modules a compatible with mother board , its ok. Kingstin KVR1333D3D4R9S is in tested list http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/memory/display.cfm?sz=4.0mspd=1.333mtyp=33id=89A8A9B9E45453813BB99586F1BAE93F And can you say something about cpu wild numbers and determing which dimms are bugged? didnt you mean some post ago that on x core system we must divide cpu value on core numbers to get DIMM slot? e.g. CPU 32/8 cores -4 slot? At that moment we'v removed 2 modules and monitoring for the result. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] dns question
On 03/22/11 6:13 AM, ann kok wrote: Hi all How can I know the refresh rate of the dns server? http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596001582 http://www.isc.org/software/bind/documentation ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Affordable KVM over IP switch
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Nico Kadel-Garcia nka...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Devin Reade g...@gno.org wrote: Michael B Allen iop...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any KVM over IP switches that are not thousands of dollars? Ideally a 3-4 port switch for a few hundred seems reasonable to me. I can attest that the Adderlink iPEPS and iPEPS-DA are excellent units. They're both in the 500-1000 range. They're intended for a single machine, but as long as your access policies allow for it, putting an electronic KVM switch (~$200) between multiple servers and the iPEPS works well. Isn't it cheaper, at this price range to get a motherboard with built-in KVMOIP support? I know many Intel SuperMicro server boards offer this either on board, or as an added module. Even on the smaller / cheaper SuperMicro boards I could add KVMOIP support for about $40 per server. And, it doesn't takup any more space on the racks and has much less clutter than those spiders Note. This is *NOT* CentOS, this is general systems discussion. That's great until you want to connect another session, or haven't had a chance to configure a new machine and want to do it remotely, or you want to leave your mom's netbook in the rack while you re-install it for her. (This just came up on another list.) ___ True... Both have their pro's con's, but in our case we'll always only use rackmount servers which is why I prefer the onboard modules. The overhead and instabilities of installing the components and configuring these features is adventuresome. Simply explaining to a client's inventory management that *they have to record the MAC addresses when they receive the hardware* so that the DHCP setups and network setups can be done gracefully has been awkward. For a few servers in a personal, or small business rack, it's not a big problem. But even the big hardware vendors can be very confusing to learn all the interface tricks and configurations for, and in a mixed environment it can get out of hand really, really fast. I've had a devil of a time demonstrating, and explaining to clients, why they need these tools, right up to the point when they say but, but, but, I can do that with the Windows servers and showing them, on the purchase orders and the emails, where they paid for that service and where they refused to allow me to install the drivers because that wasn't part of the project. This has actually gotten *MUCH* better with our favorite upstream verndor's 6.0 operating system, and I'm looking forward to CentOS 6.0 with baited breath. The really cool features of IPMI have matured a lot, and in some cases no hardware vendor drivers are needed, It Just Works with the basic system installation. Unfortunately, I don't have a rack of hosts to test this on this week, or I'd suggest it. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] dns question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ann kok said the following on 22/03/11 14:13: How can I know the refresh rate of the dns server? $ dig www.google.com ... ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.google.com. 515949 IN CNAME www.l.google.com. www.l.google.com. 300 IN A 74.125.39.106 www.l.google.com. 300 IN A 74.125.39.147 www.l.google.com. 300 IN A 74.125.39.99 www.l.google.com. 300 IN A 74.125.39.103 www.l.google.com. 300 IN A 74.125.39.104 www.l.google.com. 300 IN A 74.125.39.105 The second column is the TTL Ciao, luigi - -- / +--[Luigi Rosa]-- \ Le macchine volanti diventeranno certo piu` veloci in futuro; questo le rendera` interessanti per attivita` sportive, ma e` escluso che possano mai avere applicazioni commerciali. --Octave Chanute, pioniere dell'aviazione 1910 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2IwUwACgkQ3kWu7Tfl6ZTgQQCgnJn/UqqlfW5cxmChmf7etXs8 IuMAnigzg50SqhtsyqO6LSlFeq1hwbM0 =ZS8U -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF
with
2xIntel Xeon E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G
The next thing you should do, if you don't have them, is go to
http://www.supermicro.com/support/manuals/ and d/l the manual, and see
what it says about DIMMs.
If you meaned to check whether those DIMM modules a compatible with mother
board , its ok. Kingstin KVR1333D3D4R9S is in tested list
http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/memory/display.cfm?sz=4.0mspd=1.333mtyp=33id=89A8A9B9E45453813BB99586F1BAE93F
No, what you need to see is a) whether what you did was valid (for the
Supermicro m/b on the server I'm working on right now, the manual says the
a-banks must *ALWAYS* be populated...), and b) you might find some
troubleshooting info to help you identify which DIMMs are the problem.
And can you say something about cpu wild numbers and determing which dimms
are bugged? didnt you mean some post ago that on x core system we must
divide cpu value on core numbers to get DIMM slot? e.g. CPU 32/8 cores -4
slot?
Nope. From your original post:
One more interesting thins is the following output:
[root@zuno]# cat /var/log/mcelog |grep CPU|sort|awk '{print $2}'|uniq
32
33
34
35
50
51
52
53
So with 2 4-core Xeons, I don't understand how you can get 3x and 5x.
Could you post some raw messages, either from /var/log/message or from
/var/log/mcelog?
mark
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Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us
Vladimir Budnev wrote:
We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF
with
2xIntel Xeon E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G
The next thing you should do, if you don't have them, is go to
http://www.supermicro.com/support/manuals/ and d/l the manual, and
see
what it says about DIMMs.
If you meaned to check whether those DIMM modules a compatible with
mother
board , its ok. Kingstin KVR1333D3D4R9S is in tested list
http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/memory/display.cfm?sz=4.0mspd=1.333mtyp=33id=89A8A9B9E45453813BB99586F1BAE93F
No, what you need to see is a) whether what you did was valid (for the
Supermicro m/b on the server I'm working on right now, the manual says the
a-banks must *ALWAYS* be populated...), and b) you might find some
troubleshooting info to help you identify which DIMMs are the problem.
Roger that. Our bad :(
And can you say something about cpu wild numbers and determing which
dimms
are bugged? didnt you mean some post ago that on x core system we must
divide cpu value on core numbers to get DIMM slot? e.g. CPU 32/8 cores
-4
slot?
Nope. From your original post:
One more interesting thins is the following output:
[root@zuno]# cat /var/log/mcelog |grep CPU|sort|awk '{print $2}'|uniq
32
33
34
35
50
51
52
53
So with 2 4-core Xeons, I don't understand how you can get 3x and 5x.
Could you post some raw messages, either from /var/log/message or from
/var/log/mcelog?
sure here they are before night party:
MCE 24
CPU 52 BANK 8 TSC 372a290717a
MISC 68651f81186 ADDR 7dd2ad840
STATUS cc000281009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 25
CPU 32 BANK 8 TSC 372a29073cb
MISC 68651f81186 ADDR 7dd2ad840
STATUS cc000281009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 26
CPU 50 BANK 8 TSC 372a29064ca
MISC 68651f81186 ADDR 7dd2ad840
STATUS cc000281009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 27
CPU 33 BANK 8 TSC 372a2907e5c
MISC 68651f81186 ADDR 7dd2ad840
STATUS cc000281009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 28
CPU 35 BANK 8 TSC 372a29088f1
MISC 68651f81186 ADDR 7dd2ad840
STATUS cc000281009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 29
CPU 53 BANK 8 TSC 372a2908e82
MISC 68651f81186 ADDR 7dd2ad840
STATUS cc000281009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 30
CPU 51 BANK 8 TSC 372a290899f
MISC 68651f81186 ADDR 7dd2ad840
STATUS cc000281009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 31
CPU 34 BANK 8 TSC 423243c7aa5
MISC 2275a96d098f ADDR 7e7540ac0
STATUS cc001f01009f MCGSTATUS 0
and here after:
MCE 0
CPU 18 BANK 8 TSC 608709adcc62
MISC c6673a041181 ADDR 2f4cf4f40
STATUS cc81009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 1
CPU 2 BANK 8 TSC 608709adcbcb
MISC c6673a041181 ADDR 2f4cf4f40
STATUS cc81009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 2
CPU 20 BANK 8 TSC 608709adcb59
MISC c6673a041181 ADDR 2f4cf4f40
STATUS cc81009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 3
CPU 1 BANK 8 TSC 608709add9b0
MISC c6673a041181 ADDR 2f4cf4f40
STATUS cc81009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 4
CPU 3 BANK 8 TSC 608709ade3ab
MISC c6673a041181 ADDR 2f4cf4f40
STATUS cc81009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 5
CPU 19 BANK 8 TSC 608709ade850
MISC c6673a041181 ADDR 2f4cf4f40
STATUS cc81009f MCGSTATUS 0
MCE 6
CPU 21 BANK 8 TSC 608709ade4ea
MISC c6673a041181 ADDR 2f4cf4f40
STATUS cc81009f MCGSTATUS 0
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Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF with 2xIntel Xeon E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G The next thing you should do, if you don't have them, is go to http://www.supermicro.com/support/manuals/ and d/l the manual, and see what it says about DIMMs. If you meaned to check whether those DIMM modules a compatible with motherboard , its ok. Kingstin KVR1333D3D4R9S is in tested list http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/memory/display.cfm?sz=4.0mspd=1.333mtyp=33id=89A8A9B9E45453813BB99586F1BAE93F No, what you need to see is a) whether what you did was valid (for the Supermicro m/b on the server I'm working on right now, the manual says the a-banks must *ALWAYS* be populated...), and b) you might find some troubleshooting info to help you identify which DIMMs are the problem. Roger that. Our bad :( Std. sysadmin reply: RTFM! g And can you say something about cpu wild numbers and determing which dimms are bugged? didnt you mean some post ago that on x core system we must divide cpu value on core numbers to get DIMM slot? e.g. CPU 32/8 cores -4 slot? snip So with 2 4-core Xeons, I don't understand how you can get 3x and 5x. Could you post some raw messages, either from /var/log/message or from /var/log/mcelog? sure here they are before night party: MCE 24 CPU 52 BANK 8 TSC 372a290717a MISC 68651f81186 ADDR 7dd2ad840 STATUS cc000281009f MCGSTATUS 0 MCE 25 snip At this point, I throw up my hands. I have *no* idea how they could get numbers like CPU 52, unless something's wrong in the o/s - I mean, you are running 64 bit, right? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: We are running, Centos 4.8 on SuperMicro SYS-6026T-3RF with 2xIntel Xeon E5630 and 8xKingston KVR1333D3D4R9S/4G The next thing you should do, if you don't have them, is go to http://www.supermicro.com/support/manuals/ and d/l the manual, and see what it says about DIMMs. If you meaned to check whether those DIMM modules a compatible with motherboard , its ok. Kingstin KVR1333D3D4R9S is in tested list http://www.supermicro.com/support/resources/memory/display.cfm?sz=4.0mspd=1.333mtyp=33id=89A8A9B9E45453813BB99586F1BAE93F No, what you need to see is a) whether what you did was valid (for the Supermicro m/b on the server I'm working on right now, the manual says the a-banks must *ALWAYS* be populated...), and b) you might find some troubleshooting info to help you identify which DIMMs are the problem. Roger that. Our bad :( Std. sysadmin reply: RTFM! g And can you say something about cpu wild numbers and determing which dimms are bugged? didnt you mean some post ago that on x core system we must divide cpu value on core numbers to get DIMM slot? e.g. CPU 32/8 cores -4 slot? snip So with 2 4-core Xeons, I don't understand how you can get 3x and 5x. Could you post some raw messages, either from /var/log/message or from /var/log/mcelog? sure here they are before night party: MCE 24 CPU 52 BANK 8 TSC 372a290717a MISC 68651f81186 ADDR 7dd2ad840 STATUS cc000281009f MCGSTATUS 0 MCE 25 snip At this point, I throw up my hands. I have *no* idea how they could get numbers like CPU 52, unless something's wrong in the o/s - I mean, you are running 64 bit, right? Yeah, x86_64 I have an idea dunnothe thing is we r runngin 4.8 centos. Its old enough and mcelog version is old enough also, mb it decodes something completely wrong. Anyway thanks so much for your time and answers. Hope we will find those dimms in experiments. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us CHOMP So with 2 4-core Xeons, I don't understand how you can get 3x and 5x. Could you post some raw messages, either from /var/log/message or from /var/log/mcelog? sure here they are before night party: MCE 24 CPU 52 BANK 8 TSC 372a290717a MISC 68651f81186 ADDR 7dd2ad840 STATUS cc000281009f MCGSTATUS 0 MCE 25 snip At this point, I throw up my hands. I have *no* idea how they could get numbers like CPU 52, unless something's wrong in the o/s - I mean, you are running 64 bit, right? Yeah, x86_64 I have an idea dunnothe thing is we r runngin 4.8 centos. Its old enough and mcelog version is old enough also, mb it decodes something completely wrong. It could be that 4.8 doesn't really understand the CPU. Anyway thanks so much for your time and answers. Hope we will find those dimms in experiments. Seriously - how old is this? I think you should call your vendor: some will give you phone or email support, even after the end of warranty. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Changing daylight saving time for Turkey.
Hi, Normally daylight date change last sunday march for Turkey but this year daylight saving time will change for Turkey at 28 March 2011 at 03.00 AM so how can i change daylight save time setting for this year on CentOS servers ? I wrote rule file like below and compile it with zic but when I compile rule file,it has changed date immediately but it should be change at 28 March 2011 03.00 AM. #Rule NAME FROM TOTYPE IN ON ATSAVE LETTER/S RuleTR2011 only -Mar 22 14:47:00 1:00 S #Zone NAMEGMTOFF RULES/SAVE FORMAT [UNTIL] ZoneEurope/Istanbul +2:00 TR EEST If you help me,i will be happy. Thanks. -- Iyi calismalar.Basarilar... Semih Gokalp Istanbul/Turkiye ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Changing daylight saving time for Turkey.
Semih Gokalp wrote: Hi, Normally daylight date change last sunday march for Turkey but this year daylight saving time will change for Turkey at 28 March 2011 at 03.00 AM so how can i change daylight save time setting for this year on CentOS servers ? snip Are you sure that's not in the distro? I know there was a tz update a week or so ago. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Changing daylight saving time for Turkey.
Yes. Only Ubuntu distro update tzdata and i updated my ubuntu laptop and copy Turkey and Istanbul file to CentOS server and then change manually OS time to 28 Mar 2011 02:59:50 and i waited 10 second. When the time is 02:59:59 , date was changed to 04.00.It seems work.I will replace this two files with new files on all other CentOS and Redhat server. I hope this helps other people. On 22 March 2011 20:30, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Semih Gokalp wrote: Hi, Normally daylight date change last sunday march for Turkey but this year daylight saving time will change for Turkey at 28 March 2011 at 03.00 AM so how can i change daylight save time setting for this year on CentOS servers ? snip Are you sure that's not in the distro? I know there was a tz update a week or so ago. mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Iyi calismalar.Basarilar... Semih Gokalp Istanbul/Turkiye ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] HP z3200ps printer ppd
Now that we've got the thing, does anyone know what ppd I can use for it? I've seen someone recommending: - the generic postscript ppd; - the hplips driver. I also see ppd's for a DesignJet 800ps, and ones for the 5000ps and 5500ps. Has anyone had any experience with any of these? mark ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Changing daylight saving time for Turkey.
On 22.3.2011 18:19, Semih Gokalp wrote: Hi, Normally daylight date change last sunday march for Turkey but this year daylight saving time will change for Turkey at 28 March 2011 at 03.00 AM so how can i change daylight save time setting for this year on CentOS servers ? Upstream Vendor is working on this. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684212 I know that a similar issue was with chilean DST and CentOS made this Update available although 5.6 isnt out yet. See http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2011-March/007053.html Maybe CentOS will provide this update too, or you can rebuild the SRPM yourself as soon it is released by Upstream Vendor. -- Kind Regards, Markus Falb signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities
On 03/20/2011 05:02 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 20, 2011, at 1:52 PM, William Warren wrote: On 3/20/2011 3:30 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 3/20/11 1:57 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote: . I hope the situation may change now with Oracle in direct competition with RH for RH and RH-based distros user base. BTW Oracle offers installable binaries for free. Yes, but patches (support) cost money, as you might know. Anyway, it is better to pay for real RH instead of oracle linux.. Or, maybe there was back in the days when they released source that matched their binaries... Personally, I think everyone would be better off today if they had turned their back on anything RH-related the day they stopped permitting redistribution of their binaries among the community that created them and made them usable in the first place. I was too lazy to change and Centos made it look reasonable to leave things approximately the same. But, now that RH is putting the screws on anyone who doesn't pay up it is probably time for anyone who cares about free software to rethink things. exactly. Nothing against Centos but I've deployed my last RH based box. It'll be either Debian or Ubuntu from now on. I don't get it, why so radical? Why not go SL and maintain the same methodology? Not that it matters, but the last time I checked, SL had not released their 4.9 or 5.6 releases either. I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish here. SL is a fine product and people can use it if they want, but lets not pretend that they are releasing every point release before CentOS. In fact, I would suggest that someone check the release dates for all version 3.x, 4.x, and 5.x releases for both CentOS and SL (I'll include it in this post) SL did indeed release a 6.0 before CentOS. For all of the other 25 possible releases, SL released before CentOS on 5 of the 25 times. Here is the list: CentOS SL 3.1 03/19/0405/10/04 3.2 NR 06/28/04 3.3 09/17/0410/01/04 3.4 01/10/0502/13/05 3.5 06/09/0507/26/05 3.6 10/31/05NR 3.7 04/10/0605/27/06 3.8 08/25/0608/02/06 3.9 07/26/0710/12/07 4.0 03/02/0504/21/05 4.1 06/15/0508/26/05 4.2 10/13/0512/03/05 4.3 03/21/0605/08/06 4.4 08/30/0610/10/06 4.5 05/18/0706/26/07 4.6 12/16/0703/12/08 4.7 09/13/0809/03/08 4.8 08/22/0907/21/09 4.9 03/02/11NR 5.0 04/12/0705/07/07 5.1 12/02/0701/16/08 5.2 06/24/0806/28/08 5.3 04/01/0903/19/09 5.4 10/21/0911/05/09 5.5 05/15/1005/19/10 5.6 NR NR Don't get me wrong, SL is a good build and I highly recommend it ... but they do not beat CentOS on releases by months as seems to be insinuated here in the last couple of weeks. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities
On 03/21/2011 07:08 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 12:51 AM, Matthew Feinberg matt...@choopa.com wrote: I don't see the problem here. I just tested this and it works fine. The drupal6 package only requires php 5.2 or greater. Right. The php53 package is in the upstream vendor's updates, all of which are held up for CentOS release behind the 5.6 release. I'd like to see it get somewhere into the CentOS 5.5 releases, even if it's one of a select few components in the updates that are published in the 5.5 release. It's hard to consider CentOS equivalent to the upstream vendor's OS if the updates are so far behind that commonly available packages are incompatible with it. So ... go away and don't use it. Is someone forcing you to use CentOS? What other distribution that is free has released their 5.6 release? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities
On Mar 22, 2011, at 3:49 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 03/20/2011 05:02 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 20, 2011, at 1:52 PM, William Warren wrote: On 3/20/2011 3:30 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 3/20/11 1:57 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote: . I hope the situation may change now with Oracle in direct competition with RH for RH and RH-based distros user base. BTW Oracle offers installable binaries for free. Yes, but patches (support) cost money, as you might know. Anyway, it is better to pay for real RH instead of oracle linux.. Or, maybe there was back in the days when they released source that matched their binaries... Personally, I think everyone would be better off today if they had turned their back on anything RH-related the day they stopped permitting redistribution of their binaries among the community that created them and made them usable in the first place. I was too lazy to change and Centos made it look reasonable to leave things approximately the same. But, now that RH is putting the screws on anyone who doesn't pay up it is probably time for anyone who cares about free software to rethink things. exactly. Nothing against Centos but I've deployed my last RH based box. It'll be either Debian or Ubuntu from now on. I don't get it, why so radical? Why not go SL and maintain the same methodology? Not that it matters, but the last time I checked, SL had not released their 4.9 or 5.6 releases either. I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish here. You missed my point to the poster. While Centos is my defacto production OS, he mentioned switching to Ubuntu which is nothing like RHEL. So I thought instead of going with such a diff paradigm, that using SL might be more similar in tool set then Ubuntu. - aurf ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Affordable KVM over IP switch
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Devin Reade g...@gno.org wrote: Michael B Allen iop...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any KVM over IP switches that are not thousands of dollars? Ideally a 3-4 port switch for a few hundred seems reasonable to me. I can attest that the Adderlink iPEPS and iPEPS-DA are excellent units. They're both in the 500-1000 range. They're intended for a single machine, but as long as your access policies allow for it, putting an electronic KVM switch (~$200) between multiple servers and the iPEPS works well. You're not going to find much that is usable under that price range. Some of the lower end solutions from other vendors are windows-IE-only. The iPEPS uses encrypted VNC. Hi Devin, This is interesting. But can you switch consoles remotely using special keystokes? Or do you need to physically walk over and switch the conventional non-IP unit? Mike -- Michael B Allen Java Active Directory Integration http://www.ioplex.com/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities
On 3/22/11 7:38 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: You missed my point to the poster. While Centos is my defacto production OS, he mentioned switching to Ubuntu which is nothing like RHEL. So I thought instead of going with such a diff paradigm, that using SL might be more similar in tool set then Ubuntu. But if the underlying issue is that Red Hat is intentionally making the rebuilds difficult, any derivative is going to be fragile. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Apache/Active Directory authentication
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:55 AM, John Hodrien j.h.hodr...@leeds.ac.uk wrote: On Tue, 22 Mar 2011, Michael B Allen wrote: Hi John, You would not have to create dummy machine records. The servicePrincipalName attribute on an AD account is multi-valued and clients can request and get a ticket for ANY principal in that list. So you only need one account. And you do not need special permissions if you have an existing keytab because you can use the keytab to authenticate with AD and add servicePrincipalName values to the account itself. At least in theory you can. I don't know if Samba's routine for adding HTTP SPNs is smart enough to know that it needs to not just add servicePrincipalName values but that it will also need to rebuild the keytab. Yes, but using the machine principal you're able to request any number of service principals that are SERVICENAME/machinename. For this to work in a virtual hosting environment, you need multiple machine names (since we're talking about making a number of HTTP/blah principals). Whilst I accept The machinename of the principal does NOT have to match the actual machine name. You could create a User object called alice with servicePrincipalName values of HTTP/as1.busicorp.local, HTTP/mycomputer.net and HTTP/test1 and requesting tickets for any of those names will work just fine. AD just searches for an account with a servicePrincipalName value that matches the principal requested for the service ticket. Pedantic note: If you have the same servicePrincipalName value on more than one account, AD will actually choke and not return a ticket at all (because the request is ambiguous), there is no constraint in AD to stop people from accidentally adding the same SPN to multiple accounts and AD will not return any kind of meaningful error about it. Mike -- Michael B Allen Java Active Directory Integration http://www.ioplex.com/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Cant find out MCE reason (CPU 35 BANK 8)
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/22 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: 2011/3/21 m.r...@5-cent.us Vladimir Budnev wrote: snip, memory reseating Now we are just waiting will there be errors again. I'm sure there will. Reseating the memory may have done something, but there will, I'll wager. mark, you are absolutely right :) Approximetely 1h ago errors appeared. They appeared only once since reboot, but they r back. Hi there :( Here's a guess why you're having this problem: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=RAM+latent+junction+failure I suspect you're going to have problems again in a month or so. I hope I'm wrong. -- Charles Polisher ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/22/11 7:38 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: You missed my point to the poster. While Centos is my defacto production OS, he mentioned switching to Ubuntu which is nothing like RHEL. So I thought instead of going with such a diff paradigm, that using SL might be more similar in tool set then Ubuntu. But if the underlying issue is that Red Hat is intentionally making the rebuilds difficult, any derivative is going to be fragile. -- Les Mikesell The change doesn't make anything more difficult for rebuilds. http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/03/04/red_hat_twarts_oracle_and_novell_with_change_to_source_code_packaging/ We haven't at all restricted CentOS's ability to grab source code and recompile it and clean-out trademarks and package it. It's just some of the knowledge of the insides that we're hiding, he [Red Hat chief technology officer Brian Stevens] explains. One longtime CentOS developer agrees. I'll not lose sleep on the matter, CentOS co-founder Russ Herold tells The Reg. http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-March/107338.html This should not impact building the kernel ... it might impact things like the CentOSPlus Kernel or CentOS providing a stop gap kernel (in the testing repo) while waiting for Red Hat to correct a problem and get their kernel through engineering and then released. -- William Hooper ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities
On 3/22/11 8:07 PM, William Hooper wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Les Mikeselllesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/22/11 7:38 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: You missed my point to the poster. While Centos is my defacto production OS, he mentioned switching to Ubuntu which is nothing like RHEL. So I thought instead of going with such a diff paradigm, that using SL might be more similar in tool set then Ubuntu. But if the underlying issue is that Red Hat is intentionally making the rebuilds difficult, any derivative is going to be fragile. -- Les Mikesell The change doesn't make anything more difficult for rebuilds. http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/03/04/red_hat_twarts_oracle_and_novell_with_change_to_source_code_packaging/ We haven't at all restricted CentOS's ability to grab source code and recompile it and clean-out trademarks and package it. It's just some of the knowledge of the insides that we're hiding, he [Red Hat chief technology officer Brian Stevens] explains. One longtime CentOS developer agrees. I'll not lose sleep on the matter, CentOS co-founder Russ Herold tells The Reg. http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-March/107338.html This should not impact building the kernel ... it might impact things like the CentOSPlus Kernel or CentOS providing a stop gap kernel (in the testing repo) while waiting for Red Hat to correct a problem and get their kernel through engineering and then released. Building the kernel shouldn't be an issue - but look at the SL notes on the srpms that don't build with the listed dependencies as shipped - and they aren't being picky about the library linkages matching the RH binaries like CentOS is. If the RH build links things from source they don't ship, how much can you trust the projects that depend on that source to be able to ship timely updates? --- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 08:18:31PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Building the kernel shouldn't be an issue - but look at the SL notes on the srpms that don't build with the listed dependencies as shipped - and they aren't being picky about the library linkages matching the RH binaries like CentOS is. If the RH build links things from source they don't ship, how much can you trust the projects that depend on that source to be able to ship timely updates? If you don't trust the project _why_ are you here? John -- Public opinion rarely considers the needs of the next generation or the history of the last. It is frequently hampered by myths and misinformation, by stereotypes and shibboleths, and by an innate resistance to innovation. -- Theodore C. Sorensen (1928-2010), presidential advisor, lawyer, and writer pgpZ4aGWK7p0k.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities
On 03/22/2011 08:18 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 3/22/11 8:07 PM, William Hooper wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Les Mikeselllesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/22/11 7:38 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: You missed my point to the poster. While Centos is my defacto production OS, he mentioned switching to Ubuntu which is nothing like RHEL. So I thought instead of going with such a diff paradigm, that using SL might be more similar in tool set then Ubuntu. But if the underlying issue is that Red Hat is intentionally making the rebuilds difficult, any derivative is going to be fragile. -- Les Mikesell The change doesn't make anything more difficult for rebuilds. http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/03/04/red_hat_twarts_oracle_and_novell_with_change_to_source_code_packaging/ We haven't at all restricted CentOS's ability to grab source code and recompile it and clean-out trademarks and package it. It's just some of the knowledge of the insides that we're hiding, he [Red Hat chief technology officer Brian Stevens] explains. One longtime CentOS developer agrees. I'll not lose sleep on the matter, CentOS co-founder Russ Herold tells The Reg. http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-March/107338.html This should not impact building the kernel ... it might impact things like the CentOSPlus Kernel or CentOS providing a stop gap kernel (in the testing repo) while waiting for Red Hat to correct a problem and get their kernel through engineering and then released. Building the kernel shouldn't be an issue - but look at the SL notes on the srpms that don't build with the listed dependencies as shipped - and they aren't being picky about the library linkages matching the RH binaries like CentOS is. If the RH build links things from source they don't ship, how much can you trust the projects that depend on that source to be able to ship timely updates? This is really nothing new, we have been finding and fixing these kind of things for 8 years. All it takes is time ... start the build, if it does not build (or if it is linked incorrectly when it builds), figure out why and rebuild. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities
On 3/22/11 8:23 PM, John R. Dennison wrote: On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 08:18:31PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Building the kernel shouldn't be an issue - but look at the SL notes on the srpms that don't build with the listed dependencies as shipped - and they aren't being picky about the library linkages matching the RH binaries like CentOS is. If the RH build links things from source they don't ship, how much can you trust the projects that depend on that source to be able to ship timely updates? If you don't trust the project _why_ are you here? The CentOS team has a good history and tested binary compatibility has its advantages - but they do rely on the upstream which previously was not openly hostile to rebuilds. It's not necessarily even possible to get binary compatibility if matching source isn't made available. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Affordable KVM over IP switch
That part isn't a function of the iPEPS, it's a function of your KVM switch. So yes, I was thinking about models that do it with a particular key stroke. I've used the D-Link DKVM-8E as a decent low cost unit, although it has the tendancy to get confused during a full power outage of your data center, requiring a hard reset. Because the DKVM-8E takes power from both its own power brick and from the keyboard connectors, you can't reset it by using a remote power distribution unit; you have to have someone present in the data center press a button. Given my druthers, I'd use a different unit that didn't exhibit this behavior, but I find it's not too onerous (I've had two cases in the last 18 months that required this on-site intervention, and even then the servers are fine; I just can't reach the consoles.) The D-Links are NOT suitable for professional use. I used one of their models and it hanged on me multiple times. Because it is powered by the keyboard/mouse/video connectors, the only way to recover it is to physically disconnect ALL cables and reconnect them again. As long as ONE of the sources of power is connected, the unit won't recover. Someday you quickly need to access a machine only to suddenly discover that you are stuck and can go nowhere. A real PITA! ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote: SL did indeed release a 6.0 before CentOS. For all of the other 25 possible releases, SL released before CentOS on 5 of the 25 times. Right, but as these numbers reveal, since June 2008 Scientific Linux is closing the gap with CentOS (or rather, CentOS is slacking). You can see this when comparing CentOS and RHEL release dates. Since June 2008 CentOS started having longer delays (source: Wikipedia) https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/CentOS Where the average release delay was 25 days before June 2008, the average release delay after June 2008 increased to 51 days, and I am not including the already late CentOS 5.6 and CentOS 6.0 (otherwise it would be 62 days). CentOS 4.8 (95 days late) and CentOS 5.3 (69 days late) have been the worst delays. But now CentOS 5.6 is already at 69 days and CentOS 6.0 is past 133 days delay, an all time record (not counting CentOS 2 :-)). So the trend is a decline in release speed and maybe we should lower our expectations. CentOS users have been spoiled in the past. Kind regards, -- -- dag wieers, d...@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/ -- dagit linux solutions, i...@dagit.net, http://dagit.net/ [Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors] ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 04:22:36AM +0100, Dag Wieers wrote: CentOS 4.8 (95 days late) and CentOS 5.3 (69 days late) have been the worst delays. But now CentOS 5.6 is already at 69 days and CentOS 6.0 is past 133 days delay, an all time record (not counting CentOS 2 :-)). You keep tossing out late. late implies a published deadline and I've yet to see one. I see best effort and will try comments in many places, but never a published deadline. So, why the focus on late? John -- Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein pgpuTQ0cDYklC.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
