Re: [CentOS-es] SOLICITUD

2011-11-10 Thread Ernesto Miranda
Alguna lista de seguridad básica de sistemas que recomendarle al amigo? El 10/11/11 01:26, David Rosado T. escribió: ya me parecia raro, el amigo puede comprometer datos delicados si continua así!! El 9 de noviembre de 2011 21:16, Ernesto Pérez Estévez cen...@ecualinux.com escribió:

Re: [CentOS-es] SOLICITUD

2011-11-10 Thread Federico Don
Layer 8 El 10 de noviembre de 2011 08:30, Ernesto Miranda ernesto.mira...@unap.clescribió: Alguna lista de seguridad básica de sistemas que recomendarle al amigo? El 10/11/11 01:26, David Rosado T. escribió: ya me parecia raro, el amigo puede comprometer datos delicados si continua así!!

Re: [CentOS] Misterious hang

2011-11-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/10/2011 10:03 AM, Fajar Priyanto piše: Hi all, Recently one my Centos 5.7 VM just crashes at least once a day randomly (hang). In /var/log/messages there is nothing at all that there is problem (no error, no failure). The log just stops. The only change I did before this crashes

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6 Active Directory 2008 R2 kickstart

2011-11-10 Thread John Hodrien
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011, James A. Peltier wrote: Hi All, Anyone have a working CentOS 6 kickstart file that they are using to bind a host to Active Directory 2008 R2? I'm working on a full AD/Linux environment and would like to stand on the shoulders of others if they are already doing such a

[CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Bob Hoffman
This is a continuation of the thread about redhat vs centos and the thought of moving from centos due to redhats new business model. Forgive the length, but I had to share. I went ahead and downloaded the 5 year supported version of ubuntu server. You think centos/redhat is a bit tough or not

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread m . roth
Bob Hoffman wrote: This is a continuation of the thread about redhat vs centos and the thought of moving from centos due to redhats new business model. Forgive the length, but I had to share. Thank you, very much, for the details (not that I was planning on going to ubuntu...) Two things:

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/10/2011 02:44 PM, Bob Hoffman piše: In closing, it is down to suse or back to centos and just pray redhat turns around. Maybe scientific linux. Ubuntu is not ready for prime time and a HUGE step backwards. It is not cutting edge and very insecure. So maybe centos, even if a year or

[CentOS] what is pirut called under CentOS6?

2011-11-10 Thread Boris Epstein
Hello all, I noticed that pirut is no longer part of CentOS6. Does anybody know if there is a different graphical interface to yum that came to replace it? Thanks. Boris. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Misterious hang

2011-11-10 Thread m . roth
Fajar Priyanto wrote: Hi all, Recently one my Centos 5.7 VM just crashes at least once a day randomly (hang). In /var/log/messages there is nothing at all that there is problem (no error, no failure). The log just stops. The only change I did before this crashes is I activated LDAP

Re: [CentOS] what is pirut called under CentOS6?

2011-11-10 Thread b.j. mcclure
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 09:23 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote: Hello all, I noticed that pirut is no longer part of CentOS6. Does anybody know if there is a different graphical interface to yum that came to replace it? Thanks. Boris. ___ CentOS

Re: [CentOS] what is pirut called under CentOS6?

2011-11-10 Thread John Doe
From: Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com I noticed that pirut is no longer part of CentOS6. Does anybody know if there is a different graphical interface to yum that came to replace it? A Google search says:   Pirut was the system level updating tool which PackageKit aims to replace in RHEL 6.

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Bob Hoffman
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote Vreme: 11/10/2011 02:44 PM, Bob Hoffman pis(e: / In closing, it is down to suse or back to centos and just pray redhat // turns around. Maybe scientific linux. // Ubuntu is not ready for prime time and a HUGE step backwards. It is not

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/10/2011 03:36 PM, Bob Hoffman piše: Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote My only real concern was where red hat was going with this clone war (just a yoda line :) ) I decided to try out some non red hat versions. I really was excited about ubu and getting somewhat newer packages of things

[CentOS] questions about epil repo

2011-11-10 Thread mike and bud
hi, I installed the epil repo and imported the key but everytime i try to install a package from epil Public key for proftpd-1.3.3f-1.el6.i686.rpm is not installed I get this with evry package i try to install using centos 6 i686 ___ CentOS mailing

Re: [CentOS] questions about epil repo

2011-11-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/10/2011 03:46 PM, mike and bud piše: hi, I installed the epil repo and imported the key but everytime i try to install a package from epil Public key for proftpd-1.3.3f-1.el6.i686.rpm is not installed I get this with evry package i try to install using centos 6 i686 You mean

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 11/9/2011 6:23 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: SPAMAssasin is a monster and the documentation is *BAD*. But I've gotten it working. Just post specific questions. SpamAssassin is not THAT bad. There is a fair amount of info out there on how to integrate it with various mail servers.

Re: [CentOS] Misterious hang

2011-11-10 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:25 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Any clue where to look for the cause? Two questions: is there anything on the console screen? Does it just hang, or reboot? If the latter, and there's nothing in the logs, it's possible activating openLDAP was just coincidental with

Re: [CentOS] questions about epil repo

2011-11-10 Thread mike and bud
yes. -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Ljubomir Ljubojevic Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 9:54 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] questions about epil repo Vreme: 11/10/2011 03:46 PM, mike and bud piše:

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 09:18:43AM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Bob Hoffman wrote: This is a continuation of the thread about redhat vs centos and the thought of moving from centos due to redhats new business model. Forgive the length, but I had to share. Thank you, very much, for

Re: [CentOS] what is pirut called under CentOS6?

2011-11-10 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 06:35:38AM -0800, John Doe wrote: From: Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com I noticed that pirut is no longer part of CentOS6. Does anybody know if there is a different graphical interface to yum that came to replace it? A Google search says:   Pirut was the

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Nov 10, 2011, at 6:44 AM, Bob Hoffman wrote: This is a continuation of the thread about redhat vs centos and the thought of moving from centos due to redhats new business model. Forgive the length, but I had to share. I went ahead and downloaded the 5 year supported version of ubuntu

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011, Scott Robbins wrote: Yeah, all kidding aside, I think the whole crippling of the RH text installer was a step in the wrong direction. A text installer is smaller, faster, and doesn't suddenly, as has happened to me with various video card monitor combos, stop working or

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 11/10/2011 04:30 PM, Scott Robbins piše: Well, Fedora is going to systemd, which seems more designed for desktop/laptop users, where speed of a boot seems to be the most important goal, so I suspect RH will get there too. systemd will be much much more once it is done. From

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Warriner, Benjamin
I just want to say that this is the stupidest conversation I have ever had heard - Screw this I am going back to FreeBSD. Benjamin Warriner Technology Specialist Region 7 Education Service Center 1909 North Longview Street Kilgore, Texas 75662 Phone: (903) 988-6949 Fax: (903) 988-6965 Region 7

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Dhivan Djaganu
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 8:22 AM, Warriner, Benjamin bwarri...@esc7.net wrote: I just want to say that this is the stupidest conversation I have ever had heard - Screw this I am going back to FreeBSD. Thank you, yuou made my Friday ___ CentOS mailing

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Thomas Johansson
On 2011-11-10 17:07, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Vreme: 11/10/2011 04:30 PM, Scott Robbins piše: Well, Fedora is going to systemd, which seems more designed for desktop/laptop users, where speed of a boot seems to be the most important goal, so I suspect RH will get there too. systemd will be

[CentOS] Convert RTF to ANSI color codes

2011-11-10 Thread Sean Carolan
Anyone have a script or utility to convert an RTF file to ANSI? The main idea here is to preserve the color codes that are specified in the RTF file, so they can be displayed easily in a terminal window. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 81, Issue 6

2011-11-10 Thread centos-announce-request
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Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:33:38 AM Craig White wrote: [Ubuntu is] different - not better, not worse (save for the fact that with Ubuntu I have been able to get timely updates this year). Also, I much prefer their packaging of Apache BIND9 to Red Hat's. [snip] If your expectation was

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, November 10, 2011 10:33:38 AM Craig White wrote: [Ubuntu is] different - not better, not worse (save for the fact that with Ubuntu I have been able to get timely updates this year). Also, I much prefer their packaging of Apache

Re: [CentOS] Misterious hang

2011-11-10 Thread Aditya Hilman
On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajar...@arinet.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:25 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Any clue where to look for the cause? Two questions: is there anything on the console screen? Does it just hang, or reboot? If the latter, and there's

Re: [CentOS] Misterious hang

2011-11-10 Thread Aditya Hilman
On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:59 PM, Fajar Priyanto fajar...@arinet.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:25 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Any clue where to look for the cause? Two questions: is there anything on the console screen? Does it just hang, or reboot? If the latter, and there's

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, November 10, 2011 12:16:18 PM Craig White wrote: I would generally agree with this (brevity is not your strongest trait) That would be correct. As Mark Twain once said, I didn't have time to write a short letter, so I wrote a long one instead. And I type (and read) relatively

Re: [CentOS] Convert RTF to ANSI color codes

2011-11-10 Thread nux
Sean Carolan writes: Anyone have a script or utility to convert an RTF file to ANSI? The main idea here is to preserve the color codes that are specified in the RTF file, so they can be displayed easily in a terminal window. Unrtf claim they can convert to HTML while preserving colours. Does

Re: [CentOS] Convert RTF to ANSI color codes

2011-11-10 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:49:30 AM Sean Carolan wrote: Anyone have a script or utility to convert an RTF file to ANSI? The main idea here is to preserve the color codes that are specified in the RTF file, so they can be displayed easily in a terminal window. unrtf --vt Unrtf is

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Bob Hoffman
Lamar Owen wrote If you doubt the speed at which a non-locked-down system can be exploited, take a 1990s vintage copy of , say, RHL 6.2, go ahead and pre-download the last set of updates for that distribution, do the install on a public IP with no firewall

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, November 10, 2011 02:20:25 PM Bob Hoffman wrote: The newer stuff is cool, but it lacks the polish of a ready to go system. Centos has the polish, but lacks the new stuff. sigh. And right there is the core (or maybe it's 'sore') point to all of this; it really depends on what you

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: CentOS is what it is: as close as possible to upstream EL without being upstream EL.  Nothing more, nothing less, and bug-for-bug compatible.  If that's not what you need, then CentOS won't meet your need. Yes, but that

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | This is a continuation of the thread about redhat vs centos and the | thought of moving from centos | due to redhats new business model. Forgive the length, but I had to | share. | | I went ahead and downloaded the 5 year supported version of ubuntu | server. |

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | Bob Hoffman wrote: snip | Yes. Just like the grub ubuntu uses, that is a bloody script, and a .d | directory *full* of files, rather than the clean, simple menu with | RHEL/CentOS. | snip | | I don't want to have to read scripts to find out how to configure |

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread John R. Dennison
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:42:36PM -0800, James A. Peltier wrote: Then you downloaded the alternative, netboot or server installer. The desktop installer is fully graphical, however, is lacking many features such as LVM and RAID support selections. This is *entirely* different than

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
James A. Peltier wrote: Fedora 16 moved to GRUB 2 as well. It will be in RHEL/CentOS in the next release. Get used to it. ;) Grub2 really seems extraordinarily verbose. One can't help wondering if the simplicity of the old grub offended the developers. Simplicity does not seem to be highly

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 07:23 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 01:10 -0500, Jonathan Vomacka wrote: CentOS Community I was wondering if anyone had a good resource or procedure for a step by step in installing a mail server with Centos. There ARE documents on

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 14:30 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: On Thursday, November 10, 2011 02:20:25 PM Bob Hoffman wrote: The newer stuff is cool, but it lacks the polish of a ready to go system. Centos has the polish, but lacks the new stuff. sigh. And right there is the core (or maybe it's

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
When all of you mean to stop wasting our time bickering among yourself? If there was ANY chance ANY of you would change it's mind then I would be willing to endure senseless flame war. Since that is not likely to happen in next 100 years, I ask you nicely to finish this thread with we agree to

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:33 PM, Craig White wrote: 7- The install, of the virtual host, added libvirt. It did not however install things like virt-install or any other virt software. Infact, no guest installation tools were added, though things like virsh were installed. Sigh. 8-

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 12:37 AM, Thomas Johansson wrote: Compare systemd to Solaris Service Management Facility. Solaris SMF is a very nice and useful part of Solaris. A lot of similarities between systemd and SMF. Solaris is mainly a server OS.

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 11:07 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Thursday, November 10, 2011 11:33 PM, Craig White wrote: 7- The install, of the virtual host, added libvirt. It did not however install things like virt-install or any other virt software. Infact, no guest installation tools

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread John R. Dennison
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 08:49:33PM -0700, Craig White wrote: I just can't embrace installing an OS whose security updates have consistently lagged 3-6 months behind. You've made this point, repeatedly, for the past few months. It's getting old; we are all well aware of your feelings about

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 11:49 AM, Craig White wrote: If you want something heavy duty you could simply 'apt-get install shorewall'' but I suspect that you just want to be pedantic. The point that Lamar made - that was that there wasn't any firewall installed by default at all, which I

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 22:07 -0600, John R. Dennison wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 08:49:33PM -0700, Craig White wrote: I just can't embrace installing an OS whose security updates have consistently lagged 3-6 months behind. You've made this point, repeatedly, for the past few months.

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 12:12 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: I would not have said much if you have pushed Debian but Ubuntu? It's a joke. I only happen to have one Ubuntu Hardy server because I did not have a Centos disk at hand when I had to do an emergency installation of a box to take

[CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011, Craig White wrote: I just can't embrace installing an OS whose security updates have ... Then please leave -- your sustained venom and bile are not needed, wanted, nor useful here, let alone remotely on topic -- Russ herrold

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: For CLAMAV you need to have clamd running and a milter.  I'm not certain what milter's are current - when I set one up they were all had equally stale documentation.  Does CentOS currently ship a working

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 11/10/11 4:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mboxes/maildirs. indeed, reader protocol servers like imap, pop3, are a

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:00 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: For CLAMAV you need to have clamd running and a milter. I'm not certain what milter's are current - when I set one up they were all

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 23:49 -0500, R P Herrold wrote: On Thu, 10 Nov 2011, Craig White wrote: I just can't embrace installing an OS whose security updates have ... Then please leave -- your sustained venom and bile are not needed, wanted, nor useful here, let alone remotely on topic

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for mboxes/maildirs. Cyrus is sort of its own thing with its own mail store. Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... Never touched it and

Re: [CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 12:33 PM, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 12:12 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: I would not have said much if you have pushed Debian but Ubuntu? It's a joke. I only happen to have one Ubuntu Hardy server because I did not have a Centos disk at hand

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... Never touched it and never wanted to after I heard the screams from a friend who used cyrus and swore by it until he got corrupt mailboxes. Had to help setup postfix, dovecot and

[CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Christopher Chan wrote: Oh, things have improved have they? Last I tried, you could not get d-i Please take this elsewhere -- it has nothing to do with centos -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 21:12 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: On 11/10/11 4:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. Something for Postfix to deliver the mail too. Mail store != imap server. Mail store = structure for

[CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 23:49 -0500, R P Herrold wrote: Then please leave -- your sustained venom and bile are not needed, wanted, nor useful here, let alone remotely on topic what venom? what bile? For the record, I wasn't the one who brought up

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:28 PM, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... Never touched it and never wanted to after I heard the screams from a friend who used cyrus and swore by it until he got

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:31 PM, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 21:12 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: On 11/10/11 4:48 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: You don't mention a mail store [IMAP Server]? Such as Cyrus IMAP. Something for Postfix to deliver the mail

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:40 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:31 PM, Craig White wrote: LMTP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Mail_Transfer_Protocol That's still nothing to do with imap/pop3 servers. dovecot provides an LDA for just that purpose

Re: [CentOS] Postfix mail server procedure

2011-11-10 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:38 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Friday, November 11, 2011 01:28 PM, Craig White wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 13:23 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: Sorry, I keep forgetting about that crap... Never touched it and never wanted to after I heard the