Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread S P Arif Sahari Wibowo via CentOS
On 2018-07-18, 15:05, Valeri Galtsev wrote: No, owncloud/nextcloud don't work with IMAP as far as I know. Mail server is separate issue. Depend on what you define as "work with IMAP", Nextcloud does not come with IMAP server, but installing an IMAP server on the side of Nextcloud/Owncloud

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Keith Keller
On 2018-07-18, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based > SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim. Why are you multiposting this question to multiple mailing lists? --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread David C. Miller
I'm going to recommend going with a hosted solution if possible like google or office365. Assuming you have to host it I recommend Zimbra for a good Linux solution that is very much like exchange. Zimbra collaboration suite server can even act like an exchange server to android/ios devices and

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 07/18/18 14:36, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 07/18/2018 01:58 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling for individual users and the main corporate account, etc. .. are working well enough with any Linux solution. I must confess, my

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 18.07.2018 um 20:27 schrieb Johnny Hughes : > > So, I don't think anyone can call me a 'non linux' guy :) > > But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling > for individual users and the main corporate account, etc. .. are working > well enough with any Linux

Re: [CentOS] Desktop lag with CentOS7/Mate and high CPU usage

2018-07-18 Thread mark
Fred Smith wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:40:15AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > >> On 07/18/2018 10:31 AM, James Pearson wrote: >> >>> We have noticed significant desktop/UI lag on CentOS7 workstations >>> using Mate when the CPU usage is high - i.e. the mouse pointer lags >>> and moving

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Bernard Lheureux
On 18/07/2018 17:04, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Zarafa is also a very good Linux Exchange Like !!! Good evening from Singapore, I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim. Relative ease of installation

Re: [CentOS] Desktop lag with CentOS7/Mate and high CPU usage

2018-07-18 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 10:40:15AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/18/2018 10:31 AM, James Pearson wrote: > > We have noticed significant desktop/UI lag on CentOS7 workstations using > > Mate when the CPU usage is high - i.e. the mouse pointer lags and moving > > windows (e.g. terminal

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/18/2018 01:58 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling >> for individual users and the main corporate account, etc. .. are working >> well enough with any Linux solution. > > I must confess, my servers are FreeBSD, but I'm quite

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Michael Schumacher
> Good evening from Singapore, > I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based > SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim. > Relative ease of installation and configuration is an important > consideration factor. I think we didn't hear about some important

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Andreas Haumer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi! Am 18.07.2018 um 20:27 schrieb Johnny Hughes: [...] > > But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling for > individual users and the main corporate account, etc. .. are working well > enough with any Linux solution. >

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread mark
Andrew Holway wrote: >> Andrew, you should understand that you are talking to experts in Linux >> here. >> > > No, i was talking to the OP who is seemingly not an expert. Advising > those who not competent that they can set up and run their own mailserver > is probably negligent. > > Whipping up

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 07/18/18 13:27, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 07/18/2018 12:33 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On 07/18/18 12:24, Andrew Holway wrote: Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of nightmares on Linux. Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this went

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/18/2018 12:33 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 07/18/18 12:24, Andrew Holway wrote: >>> Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of nightmares on Linux. >>> >>> Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this >>> went >>> to the

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Andrew Holway
> > So, you'd say a company should use outside email? I would very strongly > suggest that's a BAD idea. For example, when M$ sucked all our local > Exchange accounts to their cloud, I understand (I'm not in that group) > that this was a one-way deal. From a friend, who's a consultant, he was >

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Andrew Holway
> Andrew, you should understand that you are talking to experts in Linux > here. > No, i was talking to the OP who is seemingly not an expert. Advising those who not competent that they can set up and run their own mailserver is probably negligent. Whipping up Exim and Dovecot for your own

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread mark
Andrew Holway wrote: >>> Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of >>> nightmares on Linux. >> >> Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this >> went to the CentOS general discussion list. > > I specifically meant setting up and running email services

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 07/18/18 12:24, Andrew Holway wrote: Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of nightmares on Linux. Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this went to the CentOS general discussion list. I specifically meant setting up and running email

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Alice Wonder
On 07/18/2018 10:24 AM, Andrew Holway wrote: Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of nightmares on Linux. Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this went to the CentOS general discussion list. I specifically meant setting up and running

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 07/18/18 11:59, mark wrote: Andrew Holway wrote: In addition, if you go to 365, you are NOT BUYING the software, you're renting the service. You will be paying every year, and a service contract will cost, and, presumably, cost more every year. Still a lot better than trying to run

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Andrew Holway
> > > Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of nightmares > > on Linux. > > Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this went > to the CentOS general discussion list. > I specifically meant setting up and running email services on linux is not for the

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread mark
Andrew Holway wrote: >> >> In addition, if you go to 365, you are NOT BUYING the software, you're >> renting the service. You will be paying every year, and a service >> contract will cost, and, presumably, cost more every year. >> > > Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 07/18/18 11:03, mark wrote: Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim. Relative ease of installation and configuration is an important consideration factor. Microsoft

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Andrew Holway
> > In addition, if you go to 365, you are NOT BUYING the software, you're > renting the service. You will be paying every year, and a service contract > will cost, and, presumably, cost more every year. > Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of nightmares on Linux.

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread mark
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > > I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based > SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim. > > Relative ease of installation and configuration is an important > consideration factor. > > Microsoft Exchange 2016, Domain

Re: [CentOS] Desktop lag with CentOS7/Mate and high CPU usage

2018-07-18 Thread Yan Li
On 07/18/2018 08:40 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: Personally, I would just move to gnmoe3 and use the Gnome Classic desktop. FWIW I recently found that starting from CentOS 7.5, gsd-account/polkitd have been constantly using 10%-15% CPU. I dug it a little bit yesterday and found the cause:

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread ldb
> hi there > > I would categorize  Exchange 2016 as "groupware" rather than SMTP server > per say, because you sent lots of stuff out of Exchange. > > > so to compare Exchange with postfix, exim would not be a proper > comparison. For Linux based groupware that i know is completely free is >

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Dear Jonathan Billings, Admittedly, I am a bit confused. Thank you for enlightening me with more in-depth information. From: CentOS on behalf of Jonathan Billings Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:16 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Which is

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread thoms
Sorry for top posting... Before making any decisions, I would absolutely look at Zimbra. https://www.zimbra.com/ On 07/18/2018 11:42 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Dear Promise Kumalo, > > > Thank you for the recommendations. > > > So for Exchange equivalents in the Linux world,

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Dear Promise Kumalo, Thank you for the recommendations. So for Exchange equivalents in the Linux world, it is Zimbra and Kolab. From: CentOS on behalf of Promise Kumalo Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:38 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS]

Re: [CentOS] Desktop lag with CentOS7/Mate and high CPU usage

2018-07-18 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/18/2018 10:31 AM, James Pearson wrote: > We have noticed significant desktop/UI lag on CentOS7 workstations using > Mate when the CPU usage is high - i.e. the mouse pointer lags and moving > windows (e.g. terminal windows) become jumpy (not smooth) > > We didn't see (or notice) this issue

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Promise Kumalo
hi there I would categorize  Exchange 2016 as "groupware" rather than SMTP server per say, because you sent lots of stuff out of Exchange. so to compare Exchange with postfix, exim would not be a proper comparison. For Linux based groupware that i know is completely free is Kolab

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Jos Vos
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 03:04:52PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Microsoft Exchange 2016, Domain Controller, and Active Directory are > relatively easy to install and configure. Linux-based SMTP servers are > extremely difficult to install and configure and of course, extremely

[CentOS] Desktop lag with CentOS7/Mate and high CPU usage

2018-07-18 Thread James Pearson
We have noticed significant desktop/UI lag on CentOS7 workstations using Mate when the CPU usage is high - i.e. the mouse pointer lags and moving windows (e.g. terminal windows) become jumpy (not smooth) We didn't see (or notice) this issue with CentOS6/Gnome2 This can easily be shown by

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/18/2018 10:04 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Good evening from Singapore, > > I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based > SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim. > > Relative ease of installation and configuration is an important >

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Nux!
If you find setting up a linux based smtp server "extremely difficult", then you have probably answered your own question already. Stick to what you know. hth -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro - Original Message - > From: "Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 03:04:52PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > One of the features of Microsoft Exchange 2016 is that you can create > additional folders on your Inbox in the server (server-side). Can > Linux-based SMTP servers do that? > > Does Exchange 2016 offer more

[CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-18 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Good evening from Singapore, I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim. Relative ease of installation and configuration is an important consideration factor. Microsoft Exchange 2016, Domain Controller, and Active

Re: [CentOS] Firefox 60 crashes when trying to save an image [OT]

2018-07-18 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/18/2018 09:37 AM, Matthew Phelps wrote: > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:55 PM Johnny Hughes wrote: > >> On 07/17/2018 05:51 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >>> On 07/15/2018 03:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:13 PM, Leon Fauster via CentOS < >> centos@centos.org > wrote:

Re: [CentOS] Firefox 60 crashes when trying to save an image [OT]

2018-07-18 Thread Matthew Phelps
On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 6:55 PM Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 07/17/2018 05:51 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > On 07/15/2018 03:00 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > >> On Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 12:13 PM, Leon Fauster via CentOS < > centos@centos.org > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> Am 15.07.2018 um 20:03 schrieb Nicolas

[CentOS-docs] [Gitblit] arrfab pushed 1 commits => websites/centos.org.git

2018-07-18 Thread Gitblit
https://git.centos.org/summary/websites!centos.org.git >--- master branch updated (1 commits) >--- Fabian Arrotin Wednesday, July 18, 2018 14:23 + Modified link/logo

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 161, Issue 4

2018-07-18 Thread centos-announce-request
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Re: [CentOS] Panic with EL7 KVM guest on EL6 host on AMD server with latest kernel

2018-07-18 Thread Simon Matter
> On 07/17/2018 04:48 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> On 07/17/2018 02:00 AM, Simon Matter wrote: Hi, I have AMD servers running CentOS 6.10 as KVM host and on it guests running CentOS 7.5. Since the latest kernel update on CentOS 6.10,