Re: [CentOS] Future Releases

2018-10-18 Thread Barry Brimer
No, there is no automated way to move from CentOS-6 to CentOS-7 .. and we have no idea what will be in CentOS-8 until Red Hat releases RHEL-8. We have no idea what will be in CentOS-6.11 until Red Hat releases RHEL-6.11 .. and we have no idea what will be in the release of CentOS-7 until Red Hat

Re: [CentOS] Future Releases

2018-10-18 Thread Barry Brimer
On Thu, 18 Oct 2018, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 10/18/18 4:14 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 10/18/2018 12:36 PM, Walter H. wrote: On 18.10.2018 00:08, Johnny Hughes wrote: The bottom line .. we don't make the decision whether or not to use systemd or not.  We rebuild RHEL source code.

Re: [CentOS] Future Releases

2018-10-18 Thread Jack Bailey
No, there is no automated way to move from CentOS-6 to CentOS-7 .. and we have no idea what will be in CentOS-8 until Red Hat releases RHEL-8. We have no idea what will be in CentOS-6.11 until Red Hat releases RHEL-6.11 .. and we have no idea what will be in the release of CentOS-7 until Red

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-18 Thread Young, Gregory
*** This response is my personal opinion and may not reflect that of my employer. *** >> people are tired of screaming and yelling about systemd, because we've >> had years now of the response being "tough, it's the Wave of the >> Future" > >We covered that back when RHEL 7 was still in beta:

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-18 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 18, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > It is certainly not a lot of work Typo: remove “not”. Running your own Linux distro is a *lot* of work. Just ask our benefactors here! Also, I should clarify that I’m not calling for action for my own benefit. I’m a happy CentOS 7 user;

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-18 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 18, 2018, at 6:52 PM, Japheth Cleaver wrote: > > Conoboy, on the other hand, takes great pains during the speech to describe a > much more fluid and complex interaction between CentOS and its upstream, and > puts forth CentOS as a mechanism (perhaps the best mechanism) for the winder >

Re: [CentOS] Future Releases

2018-10-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 10/18/18 4:14 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 10/18/2018 12:36 PM, Walter H. wrote: On 18.10.2018 00:08, Johnny Hughes wrote: The bottom line .. we don't make the decision whether or not to use systemd or not.  We rebuild RHEL source code. will there come a CentOS 6.11 which will be capable

[CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-18 Thread Japheth Cleaver
On 10/18/2018 4:41 PM, Warren Young wrote: On Oct 18, 2018, at 9:41 AM, mark wrote: people are tired of screaming and yelling about systemd, because we've had years now of the response being "tough, it's the Wave of the Future" We covered that back when RHEL 7 was still in beta: the time is

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-18 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 18, 2018, at 9:41 AM, mark wrote: > On 10/17/18 7:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: >>> Benno Rice is right: Lennart Poettering gets stuff done. > > Because he's funded. There are plenty of people with jobs that don’t get stuff done. > I strongly suspect that a lot of that funding > comes from

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-18 Thread Phil Perry
On 18/10/18 22:09, John R. Dennison wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:27:32AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: [topical reply trimmed for brevity] Please learn how to trim your replies. Rough count and 145 lines of crap could have been removed from your recent post. This is getting a bit

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-18 Thread John R. Dennison
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:27:32AM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: [topical reply trimmed for brevity] Please learn how to trim your replies. Rough count and 145 lines of crap could have been removed from your recent post. This is getting a bit ridiculous, Valeri:

Re: [CentOS] Check version from installer disc

2018-10-18 Thread mark
Elliott Balsley wrote: >> From a end state perspective, it does not matter . . yum update after >> the install (of either) ends at exactly the same place. > > I will not be running any updates, because I need to keep a specific old > version for software compatibility. I don't know which ISO the

Re: [CentOS] Check version from installer disc

2018-10-18 Thread Elliott Balsley
> From a end state perspective, it does not matter . . yum update after > the install (of either) ends at exactly the same place. I will not be running any updates, because I need to keep a specific old version for software compatibility. I don't know which ISO the USB stick was made from. > >

Re: [CentOS] Future Releases (was: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-18 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 10/18/2018 12:36 PM, Walter H. wrote: > On 18.10.2018 00:08, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> The bottom line .. we don't make the decision whether or not to use >> systemd or not.  We rebuild RHEL source code. > will there come a CentOS 6.11 which will be capable of TLS1.3 or HTTP/2? > I'm sure there

Re: [CentOS] Check version from installer disc

2018-10-18 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 10/18/2018 02:28 PM, Elliott Balsley wrote: > Is there some way to see what version will be installed by an installation > disc? I made a USB installer and I forgot whether it's CentOS 7.3 or 7.5. > Short of running the whole installer and seeing what happens, I can't see > any way to get this

[CentOS] Check version from installer disc

2018-10-18 Thread Elliott Balsley
Is there some way to see what version will be installed by an installation disc? I made a USB installer and I forgot whether it's CentOS 7.3 or 7.5. Short of running the whole installer and seeing what happens, I can't see any way to get this info from within Anaconda.

Re: [CentOS] Future Releases

2018-10-18 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 10/18/18 1:36 PM, Walter H. wrote: On 18.10.2018 00:08, Johnny Hughes wrote: The bottom line .. we don't make the decision whether or not to use systemd or not.  We rebuild RHEL source code. will there come a CentOS 6.11 which will be capable of TLS1.3 or HTTP/2? I'm sure there will come

[CentOS] Future Releases (was: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-18 Thread Walter H.
On 18.10.2018 00:08, Johnny Hughes wrote: The bottom line .. we don't make the decision whether or not to use systemd or not. We rebuild RHEL source code. will there come a CentOS 6.11 which will be capable of TLS1.3 or HTTP/2? I'm sure there will come a CentOS 8, but when is it probable to be

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-18 Thread mark
Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On 10/17/18 7:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: >> Benno Rice is right: Lennart Poettering gets stuff done. Because he's funded. And I strongly suspect that a lot of that funding comes from M$'s interest in Upstream. > > With all due respect, many people just stopped offering

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-18 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 10/17/18 7:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: On Oct 17, 2018, at 3:28 PM, Mark Rousell wrote: On 17/10/2018 20:03, Warren Young wrote: On Oct 17, 2018, at 10:03 AM, Mark Rousell wrote: launchd is not being forced on them as systemd is in practice Try doing without launchd on macOS. If

[CentOS-docs] [Gitblit] rbowen pushed 1 commits => websites/centos.org.git

2018-10-18 Thread Gitblit
https://git.centos.org/summary/websites!centos.org.git >--- master branch updated (1 commits) >--- Rich Bowen Thursday, October 18, 2018 07:22 + That event is over