Re: [CentOS] Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion?

2018-10-30 Thread Walter H.
On 31.10.2018 04:44, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Good morning from Singapore, This is of paramount importance. Would Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), CentOS, and Fedora remain open source/free software after IBM buys Red Hat for $34 Billion? RHEL is open source, but not for free

Re: [CentOS] RHEL 7.6 released

2018-10-30 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
I am eagerly waiting to download CentOS 7.6 as well. I am still seeing CentOS 7.5 on CentOS download mirrors in my region, Singapore. From: CentOS on behalf of Kenneth Porter Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 8:02 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re:

[CentOS] Testing

2018-10-30 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
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Re: [CentOS] Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion?

2018-10-30 Thread Japheth Cleaver
On 10/30/2018 9:12 PM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Why do you say so? On 10/31/18 12:44 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: Good morning from Singapore, This is of paramount importance. Would Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), CentOS, and Fedora remain open source/free

Re: [CentOS] Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion?

2018-10-30 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Why do you say so? From: CentOS on behalf of Itamar Reis Peixoto Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 12:04 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion?

Re: [CentOS] Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion?

2018-10-30 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
On 10/31/18 12:44 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote: > Good morning from Singapore, > > This is of paramount importance. Would Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), > CentOS, and Fedora remain open source/free software after IBM buys Red Hat > for $34 Billion? yes, because closing the

[CentOS] Would RHEL, CentOS, and Fedora Remain Open Source/Free Software After IBM Buys Red Hat for $34 Billion?

2018-10-30 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Good morning from Singapore, This is of paramount importance. Would Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), CentOS, and Fedora remain open source/free software after IBM buys Red Hat for $34 Billion? ===BEGIN SIGNATURE=== Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming's Academic Qualifications as at 30 Oct

Re: [CentOS] RHEL 7.6 released

2018-10-30 Thread Yan Li
On 10/30/18 3:26 PM, Phil Perry wrote: On 30/10/18 21:14, Yan Li wrote: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html-single/7.6_release_notes/ They silently rebased GNOME to 3.28, which wasn't in the 7.6 beta nor in the release notes. gnome 3.28 was in the

Re: [CentOS] RHEL 7.6 released

2018-10-30 Thread Phil Perry
On 30/10/18 21:14, Yan Li wrote: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html-single/7.6_release_notes/ They silently rebased GNOME to 3.28, which wasn't in the 7.6 beta nor in the release notes. gnome 3.28 was in the beta: $ cat

Re: [CentOS] RHEL 7.6 released

2018-10-30 Thread vychytraly
What a nice surprise, thank you very much :) On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:45 PM Yan Li wrote: > On 10/30/18 2:35 PM, vychytraly wrote: > > Are you sure about this? They only mention "The FreeType font engine has > > been rebased to version 2.8, which is required by GNOME 3.28" but was > GNOME > >

Re: [CentOS] RHEL 7.6 released

2018-10-30 Thread Yan Li
On 10/30/18 2:35 PM, vychytraly wrote: Are you sure about this? They only mention "The FreeType font engine has been rebased to version 2.8, which is required by GNOME 3.28" but was GNOME itself also updated? Yes: https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2018:3140 On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:15

Re: [CentOS] RHEL 7.6 released

2018-10-30 Thread vychytraly
Are you sure about this? They only mention "The FreeType font engine has been rebased to version 2.8, which is required by GNOME 3.28" but was GNOME itself also updated? On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 10:15 PM Yan Li wrote: > >

[CentOS] RHEL 7.6 released

2018-10-30 Thread Yan Li
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html-single/7.6_release_notes/ They silently rebased GNOME to 3.28, which wasn't in the 7.6 beta nor in the release notes. Can't wait to see it on my desktop. Too bad we still have to wait for 3.29, which has more fixes

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Rainer Duffner
> Am 30.10.2018 um 20:37 schrieb mark : > >> > Unless I'm misremembering, these are midway between small server and > mainframe. I just did a search, and only found used systems, never new, > and they were all "refurbed", starting at $1500, and going up to $22k... > and still refurbed. > > I

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Richard Zimmerman
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Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread John Plemons
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Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread mark
Mark Rousell wrote: > On 30/10/2018 17:14, Simon Matter wrote: > Yup. When I looked at IBM Power machines before (maybe about a year ago, > not sure), there was actually a pricing tool on the website. You could go > through various options for machines (GPUs, CPUs, storage, memory, etc.) > and

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Mark Rousell
On 30/10/2018 17:14, Simon Matter wrote: > Are you sure, has this changed? In the past time when I had to do with > iSeries, they even had their own rack size, no chance to put them into a > standard server rack. Ah, I must admit that I didn't look at rack sizes. > I agree the Power System L922

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 10/30/18 12:47 PM, Mark Rousell wrote: On 30/10/2018 16:40, mark wrote: Linux was IBM's silver bullet on a free platter. I mean, *how* many operatings systems do you want to support...? Yup, it must cost them a pretty penny to maintain all those proprietary operating systems (especially

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Mark Rousell
On 30/10/2018 16:40, mark wrote: > Linux was IBM's silver > bullet on a free platter. I mean, *how* many operatings systems do you > want to support...? Yup, it must cost them a pretty penny to maintain all those proprietary operating systems (especially when you include their mainframe ones). I

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Simon Matter
> On 30/10/2018 14:40, Simon Matter wrote: >>> On 30/10/2018 06:46, Simon Matter wrote: > On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >> To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM >> POWER >> and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the >>

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread mark
Mark Rousell wrote: > On 30/10/2018 14:49, mark wrote: > > >> I wouldn't expect a system 1, if that's the current name >> > > AS/400 -> eServer iSeries -> System i -> Power Systems > RS/6000 -> eServer pSeries -> System p -> Power Systems > > > So the current 'Power Systems' range combines what

Re: [CentOS] PostgreSQL port accessible even though it should be blocked by firewall

2018-10-30 Thread mark
Frank Thommen wrote: > On 10/29/2018 08:43 PM, Keith Keller wrote: > >> On 2018-10-29, Frank Thommen wrote: >> >>> >>> PostgreSQL is running in a docker container: >>> >>> >>> $ docker ps >>> CONTAINER IDIMAGE COMMAND >>> CREATED STATUS

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Mark Rousell
On 30/10/2018 14:49, mark wrote: > I wouldn't expect a system 1, if that's the current name AS/400 -> eServer iSeries -> System i -> Power Systems RS/6000 -> eServer pSeries -> System p -> Power Systems So the current 'Power Systems' range combines what was AS/400 with what was RS/6000. They

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Mark Rousell
On 30/10/2018 14:40, Simon Matter wrote: >> On 30/10/2018 06:46, Simon Matter wrote: On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: > To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM > POWER > and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the > hardware

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread rainer
Am 2018-10-30 15:53, schrieb Simon Matter: Still I wasn't sure how to compare the real life speed of POWER9 compared to something like the AMD EPYC 7601. It probably depends on the workload. And then, will everything work smooth on POWER the same way it does on the AMD? AFAIK, there were

Re: [CentOS] PostgreSQL port accessible even though it should be blocked by firewall

2018-10-30 Thread Frank Thommen
On 10/29/2018 08:43 PM, Keith Keller wrote: On 2018-10-29, Frank Thommen wrote: PostgreSQL is running in a docker container: $ docker ps CONTAINER IDIMAGE COMMAND CREATED STATUS PORTSNAMES 6f11fc41d2f0

Re: [CentOS] PostgreSQL port accessible even though it should be blocked by firewall

2018-10-30 Thread Frank Thommen
On 10/29/2018 08:18 PM, Alexander Dalloz wrote: Am 29.10.2018 um 20:03 schrieb Frank Thommen: PostgreSQL is running in a docker container: $ docker ps CONTAINER ID    IMAGE COMMAND CREATED STATUS  PORTS    NAMES

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Simon Matter
> On 2018-10-30 02:46, Simon Matter wrote: >>> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the hardware market again (and of course don't forget

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread mark
Simon Matter wrote: >> On 30/10/2018 06:46, Simon Matter wrote: >> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: > To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM > POWER > and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the > hardware market

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Simon Matter
> On 30/10/2018 06:46, Simon Matter wrote: >>> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the hardware market again (and of course don't forget

Re: [CentOS] Address Codes

2018-10-30 Thread me
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018, Chris Olson via CentOS wrote: One of our summer interns has stayed on during the school year to work some weekends on special assignments. This past weekend, her assignment was to draft, and try out, procedures for scanning all incoming regular mail including the envelopes.

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Mike Burger
On 2018-10-30 02:46, Simon Matter wrote: On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the hardware market again (and of course don't forget to keep Fedora/CentOS

[CentOS] Address Codes

2018-10-30 Thread Chris Olson via CentOS
One of our summer interns has stayed on during the school year to work some weekends on special assignments. This past weekend, her assignment was to draft, and try out, procedures for scanning all incoming regular mail including the envelopes. This is a new effort for us because previous mail

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Mark Rousell
On 30/10/2018 06:46, Simon Matter wrote: >> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >>> To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER >>> and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the hardware >>> market again (and of course don't forget to keep

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 164, Issue 7

2018-10-30 Thread centos-announce-request
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Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread rainer
Am 2018-10-30 10:03, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: _To me it looks pathetic that a lively profitable entity with an entirely different corporate psychology is consumed by big conglomerates. What for? _ Even more profit. Also, borrowing money is still very cheap these days (AFAIK, Amazon

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 10/30/18 3:27 AM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote: Am 2018-10-30 08:06, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: Yeah.I guess that's one way to look at it. My biggest worry? Is I've placed so much time and effort "getting to know" Fedora and its intricacies, idiosyncrasies, its ins and

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Andreas Kasenides
On 30/10/2018 09:25, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 10/30/18 3:20 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: On 30/10/18 20:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 10/30/18 2:46 AM, Simon Matter wrote: On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER

Re: [CentOS] [Marketing Mail] Re: [Marketing Mail] Re: Cups freeze when remote server is unavailable

2018-10-30 Thread Lange, Markus
Hi Patrick, you can install your lab printers using the lp* / cups* commands in your ks file or using scripts, see centos / redhat / arch / cups docu for more informations on that (arch wiki got some examples). For the home printers you can use what ever method available, for ease the web

[CentOS] Fw: Re: [SPDK] VM boot failed sometimes if using vhost-user-blk with spdk

2018-10-30 Thread wuzhouhui
Forwarded to centos mailing list -Original Messages- From: wuzhouhui Sent Time: 2018-10-30 14:06:00 (Tuesday) To: "storage performance development kit" Cc: centos@centos.org, qemu-disc...@nongnu.org Subject: Re: [SPDK] VM boot failed sometimes if using vhost-user-blk with spdk I enable

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread rainer
Am 2018-10-30 08:06, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.: Yeah.I guess that's one way to look at it. My biggest worry? Is I've placed so much time and effort "getting to know" Fedora and its intricacies, idiosyncrasies, its ins and outs...dealt with ridicule on this very same list when I first

[CentOS] Some warnings from SCL's MariaDB

2018-10-30 Thread Carlos Lopez
Hi all, I am seeing a lot of warnings with mariadb's server from yesterday: InnoDB: page_cleaner: 1000ms intended loop took 10945ms. The settings might not be optimal. According to mysql and mariadb docs, this problem is related to number of page cleaner threads. And it can only set

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 10/30/18 3:20 AM, Rob Kampen wrote: On 30/10/18 20:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 10/30/18 2:46 AM, Simon Matter wrote: On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER and RedHat Linux together to establish real

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Rob Kampen
On 30/10/18 20:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: On 10/30/18 2:46 AM, Simon Matter wrote: On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the hardware market again (and

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 10/30/18 2:46 AM, Simon Matter wrote: On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the hardware market again (and of course don't forget to keep Fedora/CentOS

Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread Simon Matter
> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote: >> To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER >> and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the hardware >> market again (and of course don't forget to keep Fedora/CentOS alive)! > > Er, RHEL has been running