Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Lamar Owen
On 2/24/21 3:49 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: Not that it matters .. BUT .. EL8 is much harder to build for. There are modular components, not all the Devel files exist, etc. It is much harder than EL7. And that difficulty shows; more stable perhaps, but many fewer packages.  Is there a reference

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Gionatan Danti
Il 2021-02-25 22:35 Stephen John Smoogen ha scritto: Mainly because customers don't want to pay for that work which is considerable. If Red Hat builds it, it is expected to have all kinds of 'promises' equivalent to its other products and that is expensive in terms of QA, engineering,

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 16:10, Gionatan Danti wrote: > Il 2021-02-25 14:27 Simon Matter ha scritto: > > EL on the other side has a very limited, supported package set and > > therefore a lot of packages needed to build a lot of packages are just > > missing. > > Yeah, same impressions here. EPEL

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 2/25/21 3:09 PM, Gionatan Danti wrote: Il 2021-02-25 14:27 Simon Matter ha scritto: EL on the other side has a very limited, supported package set and therefore a lot of packages needed to build a lot of packages are just missing. Yeah, same impressions here. EPEL really is a key

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Gionatan Danti
Il 2021-02-25 14:27 Simon Matter ha scritto: EL on the other side has a very limited, supported package set and therefore a lot of packages needed to build a lot of packages are just missing. Yeah, same impressions here. EPEL really is a key package repository for RHEL - and I always wondered

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
On 25/02/2021 20:56, Simon Matter wrote: On 25/02/2021 18:18, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: Am 25.02.21 um 15:12 schrieb J Martin Rushton via CentOS: On 25/02/2021 13:37, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: I was recently looking at Raymond's book "The Art of UNIX Programming" from 2003. 

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Simon Matter
> > > On 25/02/2021 18:18, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: >> Am 25.02.21 um 15:12 schrieb J Martin Rushton via CentOS: >>> >>> >>> On 25/02/2021 13:37, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >>> > >>> I was recently looking at Raymond's book "The Art of UNIX Programming" >>> from 2003.  He, along with

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
On 25/02/2021 18:18, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: Am 25.02.21 um 15:12 schrieb J Martin Rushton via CentOS: On 25/02/2021 13:37, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: I was recently looking at Raymond's book "The Art of UNIX Programming" from 2003.  He, along with contributors Thompson

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Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 25.02.21 um 15:12 schrieb J Martin Rushton via CentOS: On 25/02/2021 13:37, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: They run into the same interdependency.. but because they have organically grown their distro every day, those dependencies grew 1 at a time. For EPEL and other EL repos you have to

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
On 25/02/2021 16:54, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 10:07, J Martin Rushton mailto:martinrushto...@btinternet.com>> wrote: On 25/02/2021 14:49, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 09:13, J Martin Rushton via CentOS >

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 10:07, J Martin Rushton < martinrushto...@btinternet.com> wrote: > > > On 25/02/2021 14:49, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 09:13, J Martin Rushton via CentOS > > mailto:centos@centos.org>> wrote: > > > > > > > > On 25/02/2021 13:37,

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 2/25/21 8:28 AM, Simon Matter wrote: On 25/02/2021 13:37, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: They run into the same interdependency.. but because they have organically grown their distro every day, those dependencies grew 1 at a time. For EPEL and other EL repos you have to jump multiple

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
On 25/02/2021 14:49, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 09:13, J Martin Rushton via CentOS mailto:centos@centos.org>> wrote: On 25/02/2021 13:37, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: I was recently looking at Raymond's book "The Art of UNIX Programming" from 2003. 

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 09:13, J Martin Rushton via CentOS wrote: > > > On 25/02/2021 13:37, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > I was recently looking at Raymond's book "The Art of UNIX Programming" > from 2003. He, along with contributors Thompson (inventor of UNIX), > Kernigham (C and AWK), Korn

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 02:12:39PM +, J Martin Rushton via CentOS wrote: > I was recently looking at Raymond's book "The Art of UNIX Programming" from > 2003. He, along with contributors Thompson (inventor of UNIX), Kernigham (C > and AWK), Korn and others of that callibre, espouse creating

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Simon Matter
> > > On 25/02/2021 13:37, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >> They run into the same interdependency.. but because they have >> organically >> grown their distro every day, those dependencies grew 1 at a time. >> >> For EPEL and other EL repos you have to jump multiple Fedora releases to >> catch

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
On 25/02/2021 13:37, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: They run into the same interdependency.. but because they have organically grown their distro every day, those dependencies grew 1 at a time. For EPEL and other EL repos you have to jump multiple Fedora releases to catch up. So in EL6 we were

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 08:18, Tony Schreiner wrote: > On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 7:31 AM Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 02:11, Simon Matter > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > >> Smooge, you know I feel your pain, but becoming a maintainer in EPEL > > has > > > >> a pretty

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Simon Matter
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 7:31 AM Stephen John Smoogen > wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 02:11, Simon Matter >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> Smooge, you know I feel your pain, but becoming a maintainer in >> EPEL >> has >> > >> a pretty high bar (lots of new tools and methods to work with, >>

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Tony Schreiner
On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 7:31 AM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 02:11, Simon Matter wrote: > > > >> > > >> Smooge, you know I feel your pain, but becoming a maintainer in EPEL > has > > >> a pretty high bar (lots of new tools and methods to work with, amongst > > >> other

Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 02:11, Simon Matter wrote: > >> > >> Smooge, you know I feel your pain, but becoming a maintainer in EPEL has > >> a pretty high bar (lots of new tools and methods to work with, amongst > >> other things) -- as it SHOULD, given that it's intended as an addon to > >> EL and