Re: [CentOS] Looking for a RAID1 box

2023-01-05 Thread Simon Matter
Hi

> I have found a:
>
> HPE 873830-S01 ProLiant MicroServer Gen10
>
> for <$300 without drives.  If I can believe the seller, it has a AMD
> Opteron X3216 Dual-core (2 Core) 1.6GHz and 8GB Installed.
>
> It has 4 3.5" bays. and 1? "Media" bay?
>
> https://www.servertechsupply.com/873830-s01/
>
> this could well be acceptable.  Got to find out power draw.  Looks like
> ~40W.
>
> Any input on issues of OS install?  Do I go with separate OS and data
> RAID1 sets?

I usually do

[ 1(+n) RAID1 ]->[ LVM ]->[ XFS ]

then you can use LVM to manage different filesystems as required.

/boot and/or /boot/efi should be on its own RAID1 with old metadata
version but I'm not up to date about how the situation is exactly with
EL9.

Simon

>
> Also HPE is ClearOS.  I ran ClearOS6 for years before going with QNAP
> turnkey.  Perhaps current ClearOS is better, but it does not handle
> multi-domain email as I need.  Or it did not.  So I am going to install
> my own CentOS variant and iRedMail...
>
> thanks
>
>
> On 1/5/23 13:08, Jon LaBadie wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 08:18:08AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
>>> Proliant gen8 does NOT have UEFI.
>>>
>>> So I think this means I better move up to the gen10...
>>>
>>
>> I'm pleased with my Gen 10+ (Plus).  Pricer than I thought
>> you want.
>>
>> I like the "no power supply", just an external brick.
>> Quiet.  I put in a PCI card to use 2 NVMe sticks, one for
>> system and one for /home.  You can also boot from an internal
>> usb port like a thumb drive permanently installed.
>>
>> Carriers for 2.5inch SSD drives work fine so with few fans,
>> no drive motors, could be quite low power.
>>
>> Mine acts as email server, local caching DNS server (dnsmasq)
>> and Amanda backup server.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>
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Re: [CentOS] Looking for a RAID1 box

2023-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz

I have found a:

HPE 873830-S01 ProLiant MicroServer Gen10

for <$300 without drives.  If I can believe the seller, it has a AMD 
Opteron X3216 Dual-core (2 Core) 1.6GHz and 8GB Installed.


It has 4 3.5" bays. and 1? "Media" bay?

https://www.servertechsupply.com/873830-s01/

this could well be acceptable.  Got to find out power draw.  Looks like 
~40W.


Any input on issues of OS install?  Do I go with separate OS and data 
RAID1 sets?


Also HPE is ClearOS.  I ran ClearOS6 for years before going with QNAP 
turnkey.  Perhaps current ClearOS is better, but it does not handle 
multi-domain email as I need.  Or it did not.  So I am going to install 
my own CentOS variant and iRedMail...


thanks


On 1/5/23 13:08, Jon LaBadie wrote:

On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 08:18:08AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Proliant gen8 does NOT have UEFI.

So I think this means I better move up to the gen10...



I'm pleased with my Gen 10+ (Plus).  Pricer than I thought
you want.

I like the "no power supply", just an external brick.
Quiet.  I put in a PCI card to use 2 NVMe sticks, one for
system and one for /home.  You can also boot from an internal
usb port like a thumb drive permanently installed.

Carriers for 2.5inch SSD drives work fine so with few fans,
no drive motors, could be quite low power.

Mine acts as email server, local caching DNS server (dnsmasq)
and Amanda backup server.

Jon




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Re: [CentOS] Looking for a RAID1 box

2023-01-05 Thread Michael Schumacher
Robert,

> I have a few hardkernels and I was the one that got Centos-arm working on 
> them and booting completely off the HD.
> Problem comes back to it is ARM.
> I have their Odroid HC4 for doing RAID, but could not get any Linux but 
> theirs installed.

The HC4 should be running with https://www.armbian.com/odroid-hc4/, although 
this would be Debian based.

> And as I mentioned, iRedMail does not support ARM.
> So I am looking for something x64ish.

the H3+, just like the complete "H" series is Intel based. The H3+ uses a 
"Intel(R) Pentium(R) Silver N6005" CPU. I have it running with RHEL9

Michael


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Re: [CentOS] Looking for a RAID1 box

2023-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Proliant gen8 does NOT have UEFI.

So I think this means I better move up to the gen10...

On 1/4/23 09:44, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

After a lot of hours searching, here is what I am coming to

3.5" 2-bay standard built just does not exist these days.  Pretty much 
everything is at least 4-bay.


the HP Proliant gen8 looks like a good deal, and only use 2 bays. Some 
models have RAID1.


9x9x10 case, not too bad.

The 1U setups end up being more as they expect them to be used for big 
servers.


Or I head over to Microcenter tomorrow (have to go anyway for a few 
items, 8mi away) and see what we can build.  They have a few 2-bay boxes.


One "enticing" aspect of the gen8 is one pair of drives, 1Gb, for the 
OS and another pair for the mail.


On 1/3/23 17:42, Robert Heller wrote:
Just search for a 2-disk 1U x86_64 (Intel or AMD) system that has 
room for 2
SATA drives (probably a pair 2.5" SSDs). Don't bother to search for 
RAID.


Probably something like these:

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb=1u+server+=shopping=shopping


At Tue, 3 Jan 2023 17:22:13 -0500 Robert Moskowitz 
 wrote:



And I am just coming up empty on my searches.

My search foo has been really off, it seems.

On 1/3/23 17:13, Robert Heller wrote:

At Tue, 3 Jan 2023 16:55:40 -0500 Robert Moskowitz wrote:


Help?

I am looking for a box I can drop Centos or one of the spinoffs that:

Has RAID1 internal (not an external USB RAID thing)
      Can be 
software or hardware
All modern Linux kernels include software RAID out-of-the-box.  
This means any

system that supports more than one disk that you can install Linux on
(including CentOS) can be set up with Linux software RAID. If you want
hot-swap, there are various SATA hot-swap units than can be mounted 
in a ATX
case with front 5" or 3" spaces.  A modern ATX motherboard with a 
AHA SATA
controller will support Linux, including hot-swap SATA disks, 
including SATA

connected SSDs.


small (4TB/drive fine) and low power

I plan to use it ONLY for email server. perhaps 
iRedMail


I have spent a lot of time looking and not finding any such piece 
of metal.


All I find are NAS boxes with their own OS.

thanks

Bob (frustrated)
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Re: [CentOS] Looking for a RAID1 box

2023-01-05 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have a few hardkernels and I was the one that got Centos-arm working 
on them and booting completely off the HD.


Problem comes back to it is ARM.

I have their Odroid HC4 for doing RAID, but could not get any Linux but 
theirs installed.


It is sitting on my desk, unused.

And as I mentioned, iRedMail does not support ARM.

So I am looking for something x64ish.

thanks

On 1/4/23 13:47, Michael Schumacher wrote:

Hi Robert,

my old home server needed to much energy (~80VA) permanently, so I went for an 
https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h3-plus/
The manufacturer is located in Korea and has dealers around the world. Put it 
in one of their cases https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-h3-case-type-1/ 
add two drives and you will have a system that consumes less than 20VA under 
load, less than 15VA idle. My new system is just doing its job, the whole thing 
will be below 250USD excluding drives.

Michael

Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 10:55:40 PM, schriebst Du:


Help?
I am looking for a box I can drop Centos or one of the spinoffs that:
Has RAID1 internal (not an external USB RAID thing)
      Can be software or hardware
small (4TB/drive fine) and low power
I plan to use it ONLY for email server.  perhaps iRedMail
I have spent a lot of time looking and not finding any such piece of metal.
All I find are NAS boxes with their own OS.
thanks
Bob (frustrated)
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Re: [CentOS] Looking for a RAID1 box

2023-01-05 Thread Michael Schumacher
Hallo Kenneth,

...

> That has 2x 2.5 Gbps ports, which would be nice for a simple home router. Is 
> there a 3x or 4x 1 Gbps version? I was considering a Firewalla with 4x 2.5 
> Gbps ports, as I have two ISPs for redundancy. (One is 1 Gbps symmetric.) But 
> they're about 2.5x that price. Review:

Yes Sir,
there is an add-on board for the H3+, 
https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/h2-net-card/ that gives four extra 2.5GBps 
ports. 

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Michael Schumacher

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Re: [CentOS] Looking for a RAID1 box

2023-01-05 Thread Anthony K

On 4/1/23 09:22, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

And I am just coming up empty on my searches.

My search foo has been really off, it seems.


It's not just you.  I was recently searching on Google and I couldn't find what 
I was looking for.  I kept getting that annoying blue fishing monster.  I then 
went to Duck Duck Go and got what I was after.  On returning to Google and 
using the same exact search phrase that was returning nothing prior, I then got 
the same hits as on Duck Duck Go - go figure!!!
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