Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-26 Thread Lamar Owen
On 12/23/19 3:16 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Le 23/12/2019 à 02:48, Akemi Yagi a écrit : You may want to watch the "CR work" on that wiki page. CR seems to be empty right now. Not any more; updating one of my testing C8 VMs to the CR content now.

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-24 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 24.12.19 um 16:06 schrieb Gionatan Danti: Il 24-12-2019 11:30 John Pierce ha scritto: on the other hand, 99% of those security updates are things that probably don't affect most centos deployments. It does not only affect security, but also *functional* updates. For an example of a quite

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-24 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 24.12.19 um 11:30 schrieb John Pierce: On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 12:57 AM Nicolas Kovacs wrote: That's missing the point. While it's perfectly understandable that there's always a certain lag between upstream RHEL and CentOS, seven weeks without security updates is a serious showstopper for

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-24 Thread Gionatan Danti
Il 24-12-2019 11:30 John Pierce ha scritto: on the other hand, 99% of those security updates are things that probably don't affect most centos deployments. It does not only affect security, but also *functional* updates. For an example of a quite important, but not fixed bug in current

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-24 Thread John Pierce
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 12:57 AM Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > That's missing the point. > > While it's perfectly understandable that there's always a certain lag > between upstream RHEL and CentOS, seven weeks without security updates > is a serious showstopper for production use. > > There's a

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-24 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 24/12/2019 à 08:03, Thomas Stephen Lee a écrit : I don't know whether the below steps are permitted. but, you can install RHEL 8.1 Developer Edition on a VM. Download the SRPM for your package. Then rebuild on the CentOS machine and install the RPM. This is just for the important fixes like

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-23 Thread Thomas Stephen Lee
was released, 8-stream had kernel packages with a > version-release close to what was eventually released in RHEL 8.1, and > eventually into CentOS 8.1.. > > In short and to sum it up, CentOS 8 in its current state has some > unpatched vulnerabilities. They have been ad

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-23 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
to what was eventually released in RHEL 8.1, and eventually into CentOS 8.1.. In short and to sum it up, CentOS 8 in its current state has some unpatched vulnerabilities. They have been adressed in RHEL since October, but not in CentOS. It's fair to say this raises a few eyebrows among concerned

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-23 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Dec 23, 2019, at 07:32, Pete Biggs wrote: > > On Mon, 2019-12-23 at 09:16 +0100, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: >>> Le 23/12/2019 à 02:48, Akemi Yagi a écrit : >>> You may want to watch the "CR work" on that wiki page. >> >> CR seems to be empty right now. >> > I thought that was the role of

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-23 Thread Pete Biggs
On Mon, 2019-12-23 at 09:16 +0100, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 23/12/2019 à 02:48, Akemi Yagi a écrit : > > You may want to watch the "CR work" on that wiki page. > > CR seems to be empty right now. > I thought that was the role of 8-stream now? P.

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-23 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 23/12/2019 à 02:48, Akemi Yagi a écrit : You may want to watch the "CR work" on that wiki page. CR seems to be empty right now. -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Mail : i...@microlinux.fr Tél. : 04 66 63

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-22 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 23/12/2019 à 02:07, Leon Fauster via CentOS a écrit : Here you can find information that explains why there is gap between RH and CentOS releases. Basically its not intentionally but just hard work: https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8 https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8.x While

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-22 Thread Valeri Galtsev
, which is not >> yet available for CentOS. >> Basically, I would like to ask how the CentOS team sees the state of CentOS >> 8. Is the current version only intended for testing/evaluation? When does >> the CentOS team consider CentOS ready for production use? Is t

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-22 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 5:30 PM Bill Maidment wrote: > > > https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8.x > > This misses the point of where are the intermediate updates to 8.0 ? or > can we only get point releases with no updates in between? You may want to watch the "CR work" on that wiki page.

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-22 Thread John Pierce
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 5:30 PM Bill Maidment wrote: > > https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8 > > > > https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8.x > > > > This misses the point of where are the intermediate updates to 8.0 ? or > can we only get point releases with no updates in between? > >

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-22 Thread Bill Maidment
sees the state of CentOS 8. Is the current version only intended for testing/evaluation? When does the CentOS team consider CentOS ready for production use? Is there any public documentation on this matter? Here you can find information that explains why there is gap between RH and CentOS

Re: [CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-22 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
critical security updates. Obviously, this make the use of CentOS 8 in production dangerous. I guess the missing updates have to to with RHEL version 8.1, which is not yet available for CentOS. Basically, I would like to ask how the CentOS team sees the state of CentOS 8. Is the current version

[CentOS] State of CentOS 8

2019-12-22 Thread Michael Kofler
the use of CentOS 8 in production dangerous. I guess the missing updates have to to with RHEL version 8.1, which is not yet available for CentOS. Basically, I would like to ask how the CentOS team sees the state of CentOS 8. Is the current version only intended for testing/evaluation? When does