Re: [CentOS] [OT] EPEL update?
On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 12:56 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 at 12:18, Richard net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 17:08:52 + > > > From: Tony Molloy > > > > > > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 07:44 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 06:00, isdtor wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > OT for this list, but maybe I can get some pointers - how > > > > > hard is > > > > > it to get some packages updated in EPEL? The project web site > > > > > sends you from link to link, and the ML web interface is > > > > > horrible. No interest here to become a package maintainer or > > > > > regular contributor. > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you have interest in being a package maintainer or regular > > > > contributor it can be very hard to get packages updated. EPEL > > > > is > > > > trying to mainly deal with people who want long term supported > > > > package > > > > sets with limited manpower to do so. > > > > > > > > > I have taken it upon myself to rebuild MATE from Fedora 29, > > > > > seeing that the current EPEL-7 packages are four revisions > > > > > behind. Also updated a few packages to their latest upstream > > > > > version. > > > > > > > > If you are needing the latest upstream versions... I would say > > > > you > > > > are > > > > probably going to need to maintain these things yourself. As > > > > much > > > > as you want/need the latest MATE or some other item there are > > > > other > > > > people who don't and EPEL package maintainers can't satisfy > > > > both > > > > demands. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > CentOS mailing list > > > > > CentOS@centos.org > > > > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem is that the current version of Mate in the EPEL repos > > > prevents updating from 7.5 to 7.6. There is a dependency problem > > > with libgtop. > > > > > > For example trying to update marco gives you. > > > > > > Resolving Dependencies > > > --> Running transaction check > > > ---> Package marco.x86_64 0:1.16.1-3.el7 will be installed > > > --> Processing Dependency: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) for > > > package: > > > marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 > > > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > > > Error: Package: marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 (epel) > > > Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) > > > You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem > > > > > > The same dependency holds for several mate packages. > > > > > > So either hold back on the update until mate is updated or build > > > it > > > yourself are the choices.. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Tony. > > > > The epel-testing repo resolves these dependencies, so include it > > when > > updating and things should be ok -- I just updated a mate desktop > > system with no issues (it pulled about half a dozen items from > > -testing). > > > The maintainer of the Mate packages did not push the updated packages > to EPEL until after CentOS-7.6 was out because he did not want to > break 7.5 users. Now that 7.6.1810 is released, it should get > promoted > to epel in the next couple of days. > > Great, thanks. Tony > -- Tony Molloy Home ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] EPEL update?
On Tue, 2018-12-04 at 09:16 -0800, Alice Wonder wrote: > On 12/04/2018 09:08 AM, Tony Molloy wrote: > > > > > The same dependency holds for several mate packages. > > > > So either hold back on the update until mate is updated or build it > > yourself are the choices.. > > > > Using EPEL-testing also solves the problem in many cases, might also > be > able to build a temporary compat library package for old version of > libgtop until MATE packages are updated. > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Yep I'm just running up a VM to test the epel-testing solution. Regards, Tony -- Tony Molloy Home ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] EPEL update?
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 at 12:18, Richard wrote: > > > > > Date: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 17:08:52 + > > From: Tony Molloy > > > > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 07:44 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > >> On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 06:00, isdtor wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > OT for this list, but maybe I can get some pointers - how hard is > >> > it to get some packages updated in EPEL? The project web site > >> > sends you from link to link, and the ML web interface is > >> > horrible. No interest here to become a package maintainer or > >> > regular contributor. > >> > > >> > >> If you have interest in being a package maintainer or regular > >> contributor it can be very hard to get packages updated. EPEL is > >> trying to mainly deal with people who want long term supported > >> package > >> sets with limited manpower to do so. > >> > >> > I have taken it upon myself to rebuild MATE from Fedora 29, > >> > seeing that the current EPEL-7 packages are four revisions > >> > behind. Also updated a few packages to their latest upstream > >> > version. > >> > >> If you are needing the latest upstream versions... I would say you > >> are > >> probably going to need to maintain these things yourself. As much > >> as you want/need the latest MATE or some other item there are other > >> people who don't and EPEL package maintainers can't satisfy both > >> demands. > >> > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > CentOS mailing list > >> > CentOS@centos.org > >> > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > >> > >> > > > > The problem is that the current version of Mate in the EPEL repos > > prevents updating from 7.5 to 7.6. There is a dependency problem > > with libgtop. > > > > For example trying to update marco gives you. > > > > Resolving Dependencies > > --> Running transaction check > > ---> Package marco.x86_64 0:1.16.1-3.el7 will be installed > > --> Processing Dependency: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) for package: > > marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 > > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > > Error: Package: marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 (epel) > >Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) > > You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem > > > > The same dependency holds for several mate packages. > > > > So either hold back on the update until mate is updated or build it > > yourself are the choices.. > > > > Regards, > > > > Tony. > > The epel-testing repo resolves these dependencies, so include it when > updating and things should be ok -- I just updated a mate desktop > system with no issues (it pulled about half a dozen items from > -testing). The maintainer of the Mate packages did not push the updated packages to EPEL until after CentOS-7.6 was out because he did not want to break 7.5 users. Now that 7.6.1810 is released, it should get promoted to epel in the next couple of days. -- Stephen J Smoogen. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] EPEL update?
> Date: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 17:08:52 + > From: Tony Molloy > > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 07:44 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 06:00, isdtor wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > OT for this list, but maybe I can get some pointers - how hard is >> > it to get some packages updated in EPEL? The project web site >> > sends you from link to link, and the ML web interface is >> > horrible. No interest here to become a package maintainer or >> > regular contributor. >> > >> >> If you have interest in being a package maintainer or regular >> contributor it can be very hard to get packages updated. EPEL is >> trying to mainly deal with people who want long term supported >> package >> sets with limited manpower to do so. >> >> > I have taken it upon myself to rebuild MATE from Fedora 29, >> > seeing that the current EPEL-7 packages are four revisions >> > behind. Also updated a few packages to their latest upstream >> > version. >> >> If you are needing the latest upstream versions... I would say you >> are >> probably going to need to maintain these things yourself. As much >> as you want/need the latest MATE or some other item there are other >> people who don't and EPEL package maintainers can't satisfy both >> demands. >> >> > >> > ___ >> > CentOS mailing list >> > CentOS@centos.org >> > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> >> > > The problem is that the current version of Mate in the EPEL repos > prevents updating from 7.5 to 7.6. There is a dependency problem > with libgtop. > > For example trying to update marco gives you. > > Resolving Dependencies > --> Running transaction check > ---> Package marco.x86_64 0:1.16.1-3.el7 will be installed > --> Processing Dependency: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) for package: > marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 > --> Finished Dependency Resolution > Error: Package: marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 (epel) > Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) > You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem > > The same dependency holds for several mate packages. > > So either hold back on the update until mate is updated or build it > yourself are the choices.. > > Regards, > > Tony. The epel-testing repo resolves these dependencies, so include it when updating and things should be ok -- I just updated a mate desktop system with no issues (it pulled about half a dozen items from -testing). ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] EPEL update?
On 12/04/2018 09:08 AM, Tony Molloy wrote: The same dependency holds for several mate packages. So either hold back on the update until mate is updated or build it yourself are the choices.. Using EPEL-testing also solves the problem in many cases, might also be able to build a temporary compat library package for old version of libgtop until MATE packages are updated. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] EPEL update?
On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 07:44 -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 06:00, isdtor wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > OT for this list, but maybe I can get some pointers - how hard is > > it to get some packages updated in EPEL? The project web site sends > > you from link to link, and the ML web interface is horrible. No > > interest here to become a package maintainer or regular > > contributor. > > > > If you have interest in being a package maintainer or regular > contributor it can be very hard to get packages updated. EPEL is > trying to mainly deal with people who want long term supported > package > sets with limited manpower to do so. > > > I have taken it upon myself to rebuild MATE from Fedora 29, seeing > > that the current EPEL-7 packages are four revisions behind. Also > > updated a few packages to their latest upstream version. > > If you are needing the latest upstream versions... I would say you > are > probably going to need to maintain these things yourself. As much as > you want/need the latest MATE or some other item there are other > people who don't and EPEL package maintainers can't satisfy both > demands. > > > > > ___ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS@centos.org > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > The problem is that the current version of Mate in the EPEL repos prevents updating from 7.5 to 7.6. There is a dependency problem with libgtop. For example trying to update marco gives you. Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check ---> Package marco.x86_64 0:1.16.1-3.el7 will be installed --> Processing Dependency: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) for package: marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 --> Finished Dependency Resolution Error: Package: marco-1.16.1-3.el7.x86_64 (epel) Requires: libgtop-2.0.so.10()(64bit) You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem The same dependency holds for several mate packages. So either hold back on the update until mate is updated or build it yourself are the choices.. Regards, Tony. > -- Tony Molloy Home ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] EPEL update?
Greg Bailey writes: > On 12/03/2018 04:00 AM, isdtor wrote: > > Hi, > > > > OT for this list, but maybe I can get some pointers - how hard is it to get > > some packages updated in EPEL? The project web site sends you from link to > > link, and the ML web interface is horrible. No interest here to become a > > package maintainer or regular contributor. > > > > I have taken it upon myself to rebuild MATE from Fedora 29, seeing that the > > current EPEL-7 packages are four revisions behind. Also updated a few > > packages to their latest upstream version. > > > > > > You're not the first person to make this request: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1436260 > > In comment #2 of that bug report, there's a reference to enabling a copr > repo with MATE 1.18.x, with more info at: > > https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/raveit65/Mate-GTK3/ Thanks, I'm unfamiliar with this repo. Looks like the owner is the same guy who built the F29 mate packages (1.20). ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] EPEL update?
On 12/03/2018 04:00 AM, isdtor wrote: Hi, OT for this list, but maybe I can get some pointers - how hard is it to get some packages updated in EPEL? The project web site sends you from link to link, and the ML web interface is horrible. No interest here to become a package maintainer or regular contributor. I have taken it upon myself to rebuild MATE from Fedora 29, seeing that the current EPEL-7 packages are four revisions behind. Also updated a few packages to their latest upstream version. You're not the first person to make this request: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1436260 In comment #2 of that bug report, there's a reference to enabling a copr repo with MATE 1.18.x, with more info at: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/raveit65/Mate-GTK3/ -Greg ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] [OT] EPEL update?
On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 06:00, isdtor wrote: > > Hi, > > OT for this list, but maybe I can get some pointers - how hard is it to get > some packages updated in EPEL? The project web site sends you from link to > link, and the ML web interface is horrible. No interest here to become a > package maintainer or regular contributor. > If you have interest in being a package maintainer or regular contributor it can be very hard to get packages updated. EPEL is trying to mainly deal with people who want long term supported package sets with limited manpower to do so. > I have taken it upon myself to rebuild MATE from Fedora 29, seeing that the > current EPEL-7 packages are four revisions behind. Also updated a few > packages to their latest upstream version. If you are needing the latest upstream versions... I would say you are probably going to need to maintain these things yourself. As much as you want/need the latest MATE or some other item there are other people who don't and EPEL package maintainers can't satisfy both demands. > > ___ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS@centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Stephen J Smoogen. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] [OT] EPEL update?
Hi, OT for this list, but maybe I can get some pointers - how hard is it to get some packages updated in EPEL? The project web site sends you from link to link, and the ML web interface is horrible. No interest here to become a package maintainer or regular contributor. I have taken it upon myself to rebuild MATE from Fedora 29, seeing that the current EPEL-7 packages are four revisions behind. Also updated a few packages to their latest upstream version. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
