Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-28 Thread peter.winterflood
technicaly SL is shutting down but in reality they are just merging with centos effort wise. this is not a bad thing as there was duplication of effort being that the outcome was so similar. so in effect the rhel based platform just got more focused. regards peter On 28 April 2019 16:07:18

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-28 Thread Eddie O'Connor
I know this much, Scientific Linux shutting down?is a definite sign! (And I've loved SL from my first foray into Linixin 2002!) sad to see my "personal favorite" as a server OS going away . I mean ...I guess I should be happy that CEntOS is still here...(for now?) but what if "Big Blue"

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-25 Thread Simon Matter via CentOS
> James B. Byrne via CentOS wrote: >> On Wed, April 24, 2019 11:14, Simon Matter wrote: >>> >>> I'm afraid too many clouds make the wider horizon invisible :-) >> >> At that point it is called fog. > > But, don'tcha know, the only way to clear the fog is to send lots of money > to them Well,

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-25 Thread mark
James B. Byrne via CentOS wrote: > On Wed, April 24, 2019 11:14, Simon Matter wrote: >> >> I'm afraid too many clouds make the wider horizon invisible :-) > > At that point it is called fog. But, don'tcha know, the only way to clear the fog is to send lots of money to them mark

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-25 Thread James B. Byrne via CentOS
On Wed, April 24, 2019 11:14, Simon Matter wrote: > > I'm afraid too many clouds make the wider horizon invisible :-) > At that point it is called fog. -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-25 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 07:35:53AM -0400, mark wrote: > On 04/25/19 04:36, Gary Stainburn wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 April 2019 17:22:13 John R. Dennison wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:18:40AM -0400, mark wrote: > > > > Nope. Well... actually, my manager's talking about Ubuntu or maybe

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-25 Thread mark
On 04/25/19 04:36, Gary Stainburn wrote: On Wednesday 24 April 2019 17:22:13 John R. Dennison wrote: On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:18:40AM -0400, mark wrote: Nope. Well... actually, my manager's talking about Ubuntu or maybe even FreeBSD. He's *extremely* upset with RH being so slow - 8 should

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-25 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Wednesday 24 April 2019 17:22:13 John R. Dennison wrote: > On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:18:40AM -0400, mark wrote: > > Nope. Well... actually, my manager's talking about Ubuntu or maybe even > > FreeBSD. He's *extremely* upset with RH being so slow - 8 should have > > been out for some time, for

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Benjamin Smith
On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 11:25:00 AM PDT Andrew Holway wrote: > > Btw, right now, we've just built a new server as Ubuntu, because my > > manager wants to use it to test zfs, including its ability to a) act as a > > RAID, directly, without an underlying RAID, and b) encrypt the whole thing > >

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:02:54 -0700 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > Kubernetes isn't really a general-purpose UNIX operating system and so > the question seems like it's comparing apples with oranges, at least, > unless you're doing a very narrow and specific thing with certain > automation

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Benjamin Hauger
Kubernetes isn't really a general-purpose UNIX operating system and so the question seems like it's comparing apples with oranges, at least, unless you're doing a very narrow and specific thing with certain automation and scalability requirements. I don't think the fundamental raison d'être

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 4/24/19 5:42 AM, Andrew Holway wrote: I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in more than a couple of years. I think that's a very narrow view of what Red Hat does.  They're not just writing rpm spec files and building somone else's code. Red Hat is the largest

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Andrew Holway
> > Btw, right now, we've just built a new server as Ubuntu, because my > manager wants to use it to test zfs, including its ability to a) act as a > RAID, directly, without an underlying RAID, and b) encrypt the whole thing > natively. > ZFS on linux was originally an EL project. Ubuntu support

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread mark
Simon Matter via CentOS wrote: >> Andrew Holway wrote: >> >>> I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in >>> more than a couple of years. Everything I do now is Kubernetes based >>> or using cloud services (or k8s cloud services). >>> >>> What about it listeroons? Is your

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread mark
Simon Matter via CentOS wrote: >> Andrew Holway wrote: >> >>> I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in >>> more than a couple of years. Everything I do now is Kubernetes based >>> or using cloud services (or k8s cloud services). >>> >>> What about it listeroons? Is your

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Leroy Tennison
the odd-numbered releases should be used. From: CentOS on behalf of Andrew Holway Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2019 12:08:14 PM To: Simon Matter; centos Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant? > Maybe you should try to explain to your mana

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Andrew Holway
> Maybe you should try to explain to your manager why RHEL/CentOS exist and > why it's widely used in the corporate world. If he talks about Ubuntu then > you could explain to him what Fedora is any why and how it differs from > RHEL/CentOS. > I'm not really sure that the reasons for Rhel really

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Simon Matter via CentOS
> Andrew Holway wrote: >> I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in more >> than a couple of years. Everything I do now is Kubernetes based or using >> cloud services (or k8s cloud services). >> >> What about it listeroons? Is your fleet of centos boxes ever expanding >> or

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread John R. Dennison
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:18:40AM -0400, mark wrote: > > Nope. Well... actually, my manager's talking about Ubuntu or maybe even > FreeBSD. He's *extremely* upset with RH being so slow - 8 should have been > out for some time, for one, and a lot of 7, even with SCL, is far behind, It should

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Simon Matter via CentOS
>> What OS are your k8s clusters running on? How about your cloud >> providers? Mine are on RHEL and CentOS. >> > > I don't know. We use fully managed services from Google. I think its > coreOS. I'm wondering what desktops you run then, are they also running on Kubernetes? I know some prefer

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread mark
Andrew Holway wrote: > I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in more > than a couple of years. Everything I do now is Kubernetes based or using > cloud services (or k8s cloud services). > > What about it listeroons? Is your fleet of centos boxes ever expanding or > are

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 9:32 AM Andrew Holway wrote: > > > What OS are your k8s clusters running on? How about your cloud > > providers? Mine are on RHEL and CentOS. > > > > I don't know. We use fully managed services from Google. I think its coreOS. > Some of us build the infrastructure

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 09:32, Andrew Holway wrote: > > What OS are your k8s clusters running on? How about your cloud > > providers? Mine are on RHEL and CentOS. > > > > I don't know. We use fully managed services from Google. I think its > coreOS. > > > If its old coreOS then it is a rebuild

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Andrew Holway
> What OS are your k8s clusters running on? How about your cloud > providers? Mine are on RHEL and CentOS. > I don't know. We use fully managed services from Google. I think its coreOS. > -- > Jonathan Billings > ___ > CentOS mailing list >

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 09:16:33AM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > What OS are your k8s clusters running on? How about your cloud > providers? Mine are on RHEL and CentOS. On top of that, I often use centos as my base image for Dockerfiles, using the Centos docker repository. While I also

Re: [CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 02:42:19PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote: > I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in more than > a couple of years. Everything I do now is Kubernetes based or using cloud > services (or k8s cloud services). > > What about it listeroons? Is your fleet

[CentOS] Are linux distros redundant?

2019-04-24 Thread Andrew Holway
I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in more than a couple of years. Everything I do now is Kubernetes based or using cloud services (or k8s cloud services). What about it listeroons? Is your fleet of centos boxes ever expanding or are you just taking care of a single