Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-09-04 Thread d tbsky
I think releasing 7.7 is much important. since 8.1 is coming soon it
seems meaningless to release 8.0. we know RHEL X.0 is basically a beta
version which just encourage people to try it. even RedHat support 8.0
only for a very short period of time.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-09-04 Thread Thomas Stephen Lee
Sorry for the confusion.

On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:50 PM Akemi Yagi  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:07 AM Jonathan Billings 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 12:11:09PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 10:04:04AM +0530, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote:
> > > > I doubt that releasing CentOS 7.7 is a higher priority as many
> people are
> > > > using CentOS 7,
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > > I'm not quite sure how to parse that...
> >
> > I believe it is supposed to be:
> >
> > "I doubt that!  Releasing CentOS 7.7 is a higher priority, as many
> > people are using CentOS 7."
> >
> > Punctuation is important.
>
> I have yet another theory. He probably meant to say:
>
> "I suspect that releasing..."
>
> As someone who is not a native English speaker, I know how this
> happens. "doubt" and "suspect" can be translated into the same word
> (certainly in Japanese). As a result, these two words are often used
> incorrectly.
>
> Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-09-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Sep 4, 2019 at 11:07 AM Jonathan Billings  wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 12:11:09PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 10:04:04AM +0530, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote:
> > > I doubt that releasing CentOS 7.7 is a higher priority as many people are
> > > using CentOS 7,
> >
> > ...
> >
> > I'm not quite sure how to parse that...
>
> I believe it is supposed to be:
>
> "I doubt that!  Releasing CentOS 7.7 is a higher priority, as many
> people are using CentOS 7."
>
> Punctuation is important.

I have yet another theory. He probably meant to say:

"I suspect that releasing..."

As someone who is not a native English speaker, I know how this
happens. "doubt" and "suspect" can be translated into the same word
(certainly in Japanese). As a result, these two words are often used
incorrectly.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-09-04 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 12:11:09PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 10:04:04AM +0530, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote:
> > I doubt that releasing CentOS 7.7 is a higher priority as many people are
> > using CentOS 7,
> 
> ...
> 
> I'm not quite sure how to parse that...

I believe it is supposed to be:

"I doubt that!  Releasing CentOS 7.7 is a higher priority, as many
people are using CentOS 7."

Punctuation is important.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-09-04 Thread John R. Dennison
On Wed, Sep 04, 2019 at 10:04:04AM +0530, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote:
> I doubt that releasing CentOS 7.7 is a higher priority as many people are
> using CentOS 7,

...

I'm not quite sure how to parse that...



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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-09-03 Thread Thomas Stephen Lee
I doubt that releasing CentOS 7.7 is a higher priority as many people are
using CentOS 7,

On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 10:39 AM Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming <
c...@teo-en-ming-corp.com> wrote:

> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>
> According to the CentOS 8 build timeline, everything has been completed
> except release work. Does this mean CentOS 8 will be released soon?
>
> https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8
>
>
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-08-28 Thread Fred Smith
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 09:12:45AM -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:41 PM Nicolas Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> > Le 25/08/2019 à 23:07, Stephen John Smoogen a écrit :
> > > I have had several people explain to me that my comments were
> > > out-of-place and out-of-turn. When I wrote them originally I thought I
> > > was going from experience of previous releases and thought I was being
> > > matter of fact. In rereading I realized I was crass and grumpy. My
> > > un-reserved apologies for that. I should have either not posted or
> > > waited, reread and rewritten.
> >
> > Just for the record. I found your post not grumpy at all and to the
> > point. But then, I live in a country where the average joke from your
> > good-humoured neighbor would get you a lawsuit for harrassment in the
> > United States.
> 
> 
> I'm with Nicolas Kovacs.  I thought your post was factual and funny.  I
> felt the reply you got was kinda rude and I had the impression the poster
> didn't actually read what you wrote, preferring to infer insult where none
> was offered.  In my opinion, the folks who admonished you don't know what
> they're talking about.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-08-28 Thread wwp
Hello,


On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 09:12:45 -0500 "Christofer C. Bell" 
 wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:41 PM Nicolas Kovacs  wrote:
> 
> > Le 25/08/2019 à 23:07, Stephen John Smoogen a écrit :  
> > > I have had several people explain to me that my comments were
> > > out-of-place and out-of-turn. When I wrote them originally I thought I
> > > was going from experience of previous releases and thought I was being
> > > matter of fact. In rereading I realized I was crass and grumpy. My
> > > un-reserved apologies for that. I should have either not posted or
> > > waited, reread and rewritten.  
> >
> > Just for the record. I found your post not grumpy at all and to the
> > point. But then, I live in a country where the average joke from your
> > good-humoured neighbor would get you a lawsuit for harrassment in the
> > United States.  
> 
> 
> I'm with Nicolas Kovacs.  I thought your post was factual and funny.  I
> felt the reply you got was kinda rude and I had the impression the poster
> didn't actually read what you wrote, preferring to infer insult where none
> was offered.  In my opinion, the folks who admonished you don't know what
> they're talking about.

I'm seconding what Christofer and Nicolas both say. Nothing harsh in
Stephen's post, quite pertinent, even.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-08-28 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 12:41 PM Nicolas Kovacs  wrote:

> Le 25/08/2019 à 23:07, Stephen John Smoogen a écrit :
> > I have had several people explain to me that my comments were
> > out-of-place and out-of-turn. When I wrote them originally I thought I
> > was going from experience of previous releases and thought I was being
> > matter of fact. In rereading I realized I was crass and grumpy. My
> > un-reserved apologies for that. I should have either not posted or
> > waited, reread and rewritten.
>
> Just for the record. I found your post not grumpy at all and to the
> point. But then, I live in a country where the average joke from your
> good-humoured neighbor would get you a lawsuit for harrassment in the
> United States.


I'm with Nicolas Kovacs.  I thought your post was factual and funny.  I
felt the reply you got was kinda rude and I had the impression the poster
didn't actually read what you wrote, preferring to infer insult where none
was offered.  In my opinion, the folks who admonished you don't know what
they're talking about.
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-08-26 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 25/08/2019 à 23:07, Stephen John Smoogen a écrit :
> I have had several people explain to me that my comments were
> out-of-place and out-of-turn. When I wrote them originally I thought I
> was going from experience of previous releases and thought I was being
> matter of fact. In rereading I realized I was crass and grumpy. My
> un-reserved apologies for that. I should have either not posted or
> waited, reread and rewritten.

Just for the record. I found your post not grumpy at all and to the
point. But then, I live in a country where the average joke from your
good-humoured neighbor would get you a lawsuit for harrassment in the
United States.

:o)

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-08-25 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 13:58, Alan Mead  wrote:
>
> On 8/24/2019 12:49 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 01:09, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
>  wrote:
>
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>
> According to the CentOS 8 build timeline, everything has been completed 
> except release work. Does this mean CentOS 8 will be released soon?
>
> https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8
>
> It means dealing with a ton of little IRQ's that built up over the
> builds. There are all the updates which have gone out from Red Hat
> since their .0. There are trying to find all the little nagging things
> people find which someone will say 'Why didn't CentOS people actually
> find this blaringly obvious problem I found in 30 seconds.. are they
> all idiots?' which happens right after every release. And there are
> the 'ok could we get this one more thing?' stuff which pile up also.
> This happens in some every .0 release from 4 onward.. 2-3 weeks where
> people wonder why stuff is being held from them...
>
>
> No one called anyone an 'idiot.'
>
> Actually, I think several people (including myself) just don't know what 
> "Release work" means or what it means that the wiki says that the release 
> work is "Not started"
>
> So thanks for your unfriendly answer. It sounds like your speculation is that 
> there might be a release in 2-3 weeks.
>
>

I have had several people explain to me that my comments were
out-of-place and out-of-turn. When I wrote them originally I thought I
was going from experience of previous releases and thought I was being
matter of fact. In rereading I realized I was crass and grumpy. My
un-reserved apologies for that. I should have either not posted or
waited, reread and rewritten.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-08-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 01:09, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
 wrote:
>
> Good afternoon from Singapore,
>
> According to the CentOS 8 build timeline, everything has been completed 
> except release work. Does this mean CentOS 8 will be released soon?
>
> https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8
>

It means dealing with a ton of little IRQ's that built up over the
builds. There are all the updates which have gone out from Red Hat
since their .0. There are trying to find all the little nagging things
people find which someone will say 'Why didn't CentOS people actually
find this blaringly obvious problem I found in 30 seconds.. are they
all idiots?' which happens right after every release. And there are
the 'ok could we get this one more thing?' stuff which pile up also.
This happens in some every .0 release from 4 onward.. 2-3 weeks where
people wonder why stuff is being held from them...


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[CentOS] CentOS 8 will be released soon?

2019-08-23 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Good afternoon from Singapore,

According to the CentOS 8 build timeline, everything has been completed except 
release work. Does this mean CentOS 8 will be released soon?

https://wiki.centos.org/About/Building_8





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