Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-10-09 Thread Matt
Thats my thought as well.  Ubuntu desktop and CentOS for servers. Just wandering if anyone is using the 'Ubuntu Server Edition's'?  They seem appealing but CentOS is what I am used too on servers now. Thought about loading it up on a box to just try though. Not using, but I've tried it in a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-10-07 Thread m . roth
m.r...@5-cent.us a écrit : I also have CentOS at home. There are quirks, though: for example, I tried to run kaffeine last night, and it couldn't find libkaffeinepart.so. I tried adding /opt/kde3/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH, to LOAD_LIBwhatever, and even did an ldconfig, and it *still* can't find

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-10-07 Thread Niki Kovacs
Les Mikesell a écrit : But that means you have to wait many years for new features - that you probably want in rapidly developing desktop apps. One new set of desktop applications about every two years suits me perfectly[1]. Lately I only needed a more recent version of Open Office than

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-10-07 Thread Niki Kovacs
Florin Andrei a écrit : I keep an eye on a Kawasaki forum, and they have a knack for doing a lot of Suzuki bashing. I'm, like, WTF, they're all awesome sportbikes! :-) Same here. In the end, Linux is the same Right. Got fifteen Hondas and one Yamaha before finally settling for an old

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-10-01 Thread Geoff Galitz
On 09/29/2009 09:21 AM, Geoff Galitz wrote: Ubuntu has the LTS releases, which are long term stable releases. They are supported for five years after release. you might want to look into exactly what is ubuntu-support and how that compares with what you get with CentOS. Its not nearly

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Marcelo M. Garcia Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:36 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Not using, but I've tried it in a LAMP-configuration

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-30 Thread Christopher Chan
Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Marcelo M. Garcia Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 10:36 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Not using

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chan Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2009 9:42 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Yupp, as I said, at the time I was testing Ubuntu, I

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-30 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/29/2009 06:21 PM, Drew wrote: Websites for example have moved from static html on the arpanet university sites to the rich multimedia content we see today. Back then the idea of a website infecting a computer was unheard of. For completelness sake - website content hasent changed an

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-30 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/29/2009 06:38 PM, Florin Andrei wrote: I agree with your assessment that Red Hat Co are still The Distribution for enterprise stuff. Where Enterprise Stuff == 'Stable computing where you can focus on doing things with your computer and know that when you want to, it will be there -

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Niki Kovacs wrote: Geoff Galitz a écrit : Ubuntu has the LTS releases, which are long term stable releases. They are supported for five years after release. Ubuntu Long Term Support is three years for desktops and five for servers. In the last LTS version (8.04), half of the audio apps

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-30 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/30/2009 02:11 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: Solution: stick with CentOS, rock-solid and *real* LTS. But that means you have to wait many years for new features - that you probably want in rapidly developing desktop apps. thats not always true - it is to some extent though. And the 'long

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Karanbir Singh wrote: On 09/30/2009 02:11 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: Solution: stick with CentOS, rock-solid and *real* LTS. But that means you have to wait many years for new features - that you probably want in rapidly developing desktop apps. thats not always true - it is to some extent

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-30 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Christopher Chan wrote: And I can't believe I just write that...! I sound like a linux die-hard... Just try Solaris or FreeBSD then. That should make you a Linux die-hard. :-D Oh yes. I tried Opensolaris for a while and now I'm more convinced of Linux than ever. mg.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-30 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Sorin Srbu wrote: HTH. Hi Sorin You can sudo bash and you will have a root terminal. In it, you can set the root password for root. Yupp, as I said, at the time I was testing Ubuntu, I was rather green and didn't know about those little tricks. Now is a another matter, but I still prefer

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-30 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 30 Sep 2009 21:41:48 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: Sorin Srbu wrote: HTH. Hi Sorin You can sudo bash and you will have a root terminal. In it, you can set the root password for root. Yupp, as I said, at the time I was testing Ubuntu, I was rather

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-30 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Marcelo M. Garcia The reason for Ubuntu in the laptop is simply because CentOS didn't work  very well. I followed the wiki about XPS M1530[1] and everything almost work. At the office one of the developers uses a Dell Precision laptop with RHEL 5.3 (it came

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Marcelo M. Garcia Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:08 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Sorry, but Fedora is no longer a good desktop choice. I

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:29 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Thats my thought as well. Ubuntu desktop and CentOS for servers. Just

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chan Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:35 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Ubuntu for desktop is really a give and take. You get some

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Christopher Chan
Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:29 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Thats my thought as well. Ubuntu

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Geoff Galitz
1) Ubuntu really needs more frequent total updates (it is not a long-term stable release). The Ubuntu system that was on the local library's server was unable to get updates (apt-get would fail -- I ended up manually downloading packages and installing by hand (using raw dpkg commands --

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Chan Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 9:40 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Not using, but I've tried it in a LAMP-configuration couple

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Niki Kovacs
Geoff Galitz a écrit : Ubuntu has the LTS releases, which are long term stable releases. They are supported for five years after release. Ubuntu Long Term Support is three years for desktops and five for servers. In the last LTS version (8.04), half of the audio apps had no sound for a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Niki Kovacs
Christopher Chan a écrit : Bah, sudo -i for the equivalent of su -. Or try this: $ sudo -s ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 29 Sep 2009 10:21:08 +0200 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: 1) Ubuntu really needs more frequent total updates (it is not a long-term stable release). The Ubuntu system that was on the local library's server was unable to get updates (apt-get would fail -- I

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Christopher Chan wrote: Thats my thought as well. Ubuntu desktop and CentOS for servers. Just wandering if anyone is using the 'Ubuntu Server Edition's'? They seem appealing but CentOS is what I am used too on servers now. Thought about loading it up on a box to just try though.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Sorin Srbu wrote: Thats my thought as well. Ubuntu desktop and CentOS for servers. Just wandering if anyone is using the 'Ubuntu Server Edition's'? They seem appealing but CentOS is what I am used too on servers now. Thought about loading it up on a box to just try though. Not using, but

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Sorin Srbu wrote: I there are too many updates, and sometimes they crash something. I remember while using Fedora 10, after disappointment with F9, after an update, the sound stopped to work. I didn't like the idea of Thunderbird beta in F 12. Also, the external drives are mounted using the

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/27/2009 02:57 PM, Drew wrote: That's the rule of thumb I see applied to what goes in /srv. In a LAMP box for example I'd expect to see the website(and site logs), database files, and POP3/IMAP spools stored in srv directories. Machine specific data like system logs and email processing

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/29/2009 09:21 AM, Geoff Galitz wrote: Ubuntu has the LTS releases, which are long term stable releases. They are supported for five years after release. you might want to look into exactly what is ubuntu-support and how that compares with what you get with CentOS. Its not nearly the same

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Niki Kovacs
m.r...@5-cent.us a écrit : I also have CentOS at home. There are quirks, though: for example, I tried to run kaffeine last night, and it couldn't find libkaffeinepart.so. I tried adding /opt/kde3/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH, to LOAD_LIBwhatever, and even did an ldconfig, and it *still* can't find

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Karanbir Singh wrote: On 09/27/2009 02:57 PM, Drew wrote: That's the rule of thumb I see applied to what goes in /srv. In a LAMP box for example I'd expect to see the website(and site logs), database files, and POP3/IMAP spools stored in srv directories. Machine specific data like system logs

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread m . roth
m.r...@5-cent.us a écrit : I also have CentOS at home. There are quirks, though: for example, I tried to run kaffeine last night, and it couldn't find libkaffeinepart.so. I tried adding /opt/kde3/lib to LD_LIBRARY_PATH, to LOAD_LIBwhatever, and even did an ldconfig, and it *still* can't find

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
Niki Kovacs wrote: Geoff Galitz a écrit : Ubuntu has the LTS releases, which are long term stable releases. They are supported for five years after release. Ubuntu Long Term Support is three years for desktops and five for servers. In the last LTS version (8.04), half of the

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Drew
Not likely...  Storage paths are all arbitrary and if a standard has to make up a new location that breaks existing concepts they've already done something wrong. Times change. What worked well on Unix 20-30 years ago isn't necessarily the best way of doing things today. Websites for example

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Florin Andrei
Matt wrote: Just wandering if anyone is using the 'Ubuntu Server Edition's'? On a whim, I installed it on my home mail/web/* server. It was due for an upgrade anyway. So far, so good. Running a boatload of services (low load though), no crashes, solid. The Ubuntu experience is the same.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Florin Andrei
Geoff Galitz wrote: Perhaps it is getting trendy to beat up on non-Centos distros here on the Centos list? Well, it's the group bias. I keep an eye on a Kawasaki forum, and they have a knack for doing a lot of Suzuki bashing. I'm, like, WTF, they're all awesome sportbikes! :-) Same here.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Florin Andrei
Karanbir Singh wrote: you might want to look into exactly what is ubuntu-support and how that compares with what you get with CentOS. Its not nearly the same thing. To an extent that LTS is mostly considered a nonstarter in most very small business. Specially where the client is in a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Drew wrote: Not likely... Storage paths are all arbitrary and if a standard has to make up a new location that breaks existing concepts they've already done something wrong. Times change. What worked well on Unix 20-30 years ago isn't necessarily the best way of doing things today.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Max Hetrick
Florin Andrei wrote: Well, it's the group bias. I keep an eye on a Kawasaki forum, and they have a knack for doing a lot of Suzuki bashing. I'm, like, WTF, they're all awesome sportbikes! :-) Same here. In the end, Linux is the same, just different flavors for different tastes.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Florin Andrei wrote: Karanbir Singh wrote: you might want to look into exactly what is ubuntu-support and how that compares with what you get with CentOS. Its not nearly the same thing. To an extent that LTS is mostly considered a nonstarter in most very small business. Specially where

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Florin Andrei
Max Hetrick wrote: the zealots Nah, it's just the way the human mind works, according to its current blueprint. It can be pretty awesome in what it can do sometimes, but it does have obvious fundamental flaws too. You and I have biases too, but nobody is aware of their own. :) -- Florin

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Drew
The argument you're expressing, as I see it, is that there is really no difference whether or not the files are stored in /var or /srv because in the end they're bits on a disk so where in the file system they end up doesn't matter. /var was chosen years ago by Unix admins so why change it to

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, keep in mind that it took many years for Red Hat to get it right (or what they think is right) and when they did, they stopped distributing the binaries for free.  Ubuntu should be getting pretty close to having

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Drew wrote: The argument you're expressing, as I see it, is that there is really no difference whether or not the files are stored in /var or /srv because in the end they're bits on a disk so where in the file system they end up doesn't matter. /var was chosen years ago by Unix admins so why

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Alan McKay
I've been generally unhappy with my CentOS desktop both at home and at work, when it comes to thinks like sound and video. I'd recommend going with Fedora Core, to be honest. Much as I love CentOS on my servers. -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Ron Blizzard wrote: I've been generally unhappy with my CentOS desktop both at home and at work, when it comes to thinks like sound and video. I'd recommend going with Fedora Core, to be honest. Much as I love CentOS on my servers. I like stability over cutting edge, so CentOS (with

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Alan McKay
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Ron Blizzard rb4cen...@gmail.com wrote: I like stability over cutting edge, so CentOS (with multimedia from RPMForge) What are the details on MM from RPMForge? If I could get my MM working I'd be happy. I like stability too, which is why I use it on my

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Tait Clarridge
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 15:38 -0400, Alan McKay wrote: I've been generally unhappy with my CentOS desktop both at home and at work, when it comes to thinks like sound and video. I'd recommend going with Fedora Core, to be honest. Much as I love CentOS on my servers. This is more a reply

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Alan McKay
I am not an Ubuntu basher, but I felt it was babying me a little too much. Hmmm, maybe that's what I should put on my wife's laptop :-) I already know Linux very well - been a UNIX geek for over 20 years, and Linux geek for getting on 10 now. And I still get frustrated with how difficult it

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Rob Kampen
Alan McKay wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Ron Blizzard rb4cen...@gmail.com wrote: I like stability over cutting edge, so CentOS (with multimedia from RPMForge) What are the details on MM from RPMForge? If I could get my MM working I'd be happy. I like stability too, which

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Tait Clarridge
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 16:14 -0400, Alan McKay wrote: I am not an Ubuntu basher, but I felt it was babying me a little too much. Hmmm, maybe that's what I should put on my wife's laptop :-) I already know Linux very well - been a UNIX geek for over 20 years, and Linux geek for getting on

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:29 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Thats my thought as well. Ubuntu desktop

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Drew
Not quite.  It is more a matter of a standard only being useful if everyone does what it says.  Picking a new location that no one currently uses is always the worst possible choice. So are revolutions but those seem to work well on occasion. :-) My argument is that those same Unix admins

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Drew wrote: Not quite. It is more a matter of a standard only being useful if everyone does what it says. Picking a new location that no one currently uses is always the worst possible choice. So are revolutions but those seem to work well on occasion. :-) Only for the survivors. My

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Christopher Chan
Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 11:29 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Alan McKay alan.mc...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Ron Blizzard rb4cen...@gmail.com wrote: I like stability over cutting edge, so CentOS (with multimedia from RPMForge) What are the details on MM from RPMForge? If I could get my MM

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Fedora has the advantage to a RHEL/CentOS user of having the same install/admin tools.  But if you are turning the box over to someone else, Ubuntu makes much more of an effort to be user friendly.  And they haven't

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Tait Clarridge t...@clarridge.ca wrote: CentOS is great for server use and if you want to learn CentOS for use as a server, Fedora is a great place to start because they are both redhat based. Chances are that if you got something to work in Fedora, you can

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On 9/25/09, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: On Friday 25 September 2009 17:02:24 Lanny Marcus wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop. He needs are small. She

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 09/27/2009 08:09 AM, Robert Heller wrote: At Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:13:04 +0200 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: m.r...@5-cent.us a écrit : I'd add in the search RHELyour release, at least to start. Beyond that, some other distro, such as mandrake, may have compatible rpms.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Marcelo M. Garcia Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:57 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Sorry, but Fedora is no longer a good desktop choice. I

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Marcelo M. Garcia Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 8:57 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Sorry, but Fedora is no longer

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Matt
I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop.  He needs are small.  She has been used to Mozilla for both mail and browsing, so equivalents there are not a problem.  She needs grip and lame, for her mp3s - again no problem. Desktop, non-techie - use Ubuntu instead

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:29:12 -0500 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop.  He needs are small.  She has been used to Mozilla for both mail and browsing, so equivalents there are not a problem.  She needs

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread aurfalien
wrote: I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop. He needs are small. She has been used to Mozilla for both mail and browsing, so equivalents there are not a problem. She needs grip and lame, for her mp3s - again no problem. Desktop, non-techie - use

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-28 Thread Christopher Chan
Matt wrote: I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop. He needs are small. She has been used to Mozilla for both mail and browsing, so equivalents there are not a problem. She needs grip and lame, for her mp3s - again no problem. Desktop, non-techie

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-27 Thread Niki Kovacs
m.r...@5-cent.us a écrit : I'd add in the search RHELyour release, at least to start. Beyond that, some other distro, such as mandrake, may have compatible rpms. No! Never use Mandrake RPMS on RHEL. My advice for third-party applications: 1) Use RPMS from RPMForge repo. 2) If your

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-27 Thread Robert Heller
At Sun, 27 Sep 2009 09:13:04 +0200 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: m.r...@5-cent.us a écrit : I'd add in the search RHELyour release, at least to start. Beyond that, some other distro, such as mandrake, may have compatible rpms. No! Never use Mandrake RPMS on RHEL.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-27 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 24/09/09 21:32, Paul Heinlein wrote: I really wish RH would hop on the /srv bus. The broad distinction is fairly easy to grasp: /var for variable data of general interest to the machine, /srv for stuff related to a specific service. In general, /var is machine-generated, /srv is

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-27 Thread Christoph Maser
Am Sonntag, den 27.09.2009, 15:17 +0200 schrieb Karanbir Singh: On 24/09/09 21:32, Paul Heinlein wrote: I really wish RH would hop on the /srv bus. The broad distinction is fairly easy to grasp: /var for variable data of general interest to the machine, /srv for stuff related to a specific

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-27 Thread Drew
So I don't see consensus here. What if my served data ist variable data? An no distinction between man made or machine made is given here. Also this might not be flexible enough for some scenarios. Is the data being stored customer facing or internal to the machine? That's the rule of thumb I

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-26 Thread Niki Kovacs
Matt a écrit : I have always used Ubuntu for desktop linux and CentOS for servers. Have never tried CentOS as a desktop. Perhaps I should? One look is worth a thousand words, as they say : http://www.microlinux.fr/captures.html My Linux desktop, based on CentOS 5.3, tweaked to death with

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-26 Thread Les Mikesell
Niki Kovacs wrote: Matt a écrit : I have always used Ubuntu for desktop linux and CentOS for servers. Have never tried CentOS as a desktop. Perhaps I should? One look is worth a thousand words, as they say : http://www.microlinux.fr/captures.html My Linux desktop, based on CentOS

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-26 Thread Niki Kovacs
Les Mikesell a écrit : Can the install script be simplified to rpm installs of the http urls to the yum repo release files followed by yum installs of a list of packages? And if so, can someone publish that script? Not really. Before discovering CentOS (around 2006), I've been a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-26 Thread Les Mikesell
Niki Kovacs wrote: Les Mikesell a écrit : Can the install script be simplified to rpm installs of the http urls to the yum repo release files followed by yum installs of a list of packages? And if so, can someone publish that script? Not really. Before discovering CentOS (around

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-26 Thread mark
Niki Kovacs wrote: Les Mikesell a écrit : snip Here's an example. I have a directory java/, with the latest java from sun.com, plus the following script: snip I've just become familiar with alternatives, and now wonder why no one created that a decade ago. mark -- The very powerful

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-26 Thread Les Mikesell
mark wrote: Niki Kovacs wrote: Les Mikesell a écrit : snip Here's an example. I have a directory java/, with the latest java from sun.com, plus the following script: snip I've just become familiar with alternatives, and now wonder why no one created that a decade ago. It's not a real

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-26 Thread mark
Les Mikesell wrote: mark wrote: Niki Kovacs wrote: Les Mikesell a écrit : snip Here's an example. I have a directory java/, with the latest java from sun.com, plus the following script: snip I've just become familiar with alternatives, and now wonder why no one created that a decade

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-26 Thread Les Mikesell
mark wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: mark wrote: Niki Kovacs wrote: Les Mikesell a écrit : snip Here's an example. I have a directory java/, with the latest java from sun.com, plus the following script: snip I've just become familiar with alternatives, and now wonder why no one created

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-26 Thread Niki Kovacs
Les Mikesell a écrit : But that leaves you in charge of maintaining and updating every piece you install or leaving the systems in a lurch if you don't and there are subsequent security/bug fixes. The whole point of having an enterprise-type long-life distribution is that you don't have

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 September 2009 20:03:04 Curt Mills wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 24 September 2009 17:50:37 Ron Loftin wrote: My image of the low-tech user is the one who surfs the Web, reads and writes e-mail, and does the odd letter or maybe even a spreadsheet

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-25 Thread Les Mikesell
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 24 September 2009 20:03:04 Curt Mills wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 24 September 2009 17:50:37 Ron Loftin wrote: My image of the low-tech user is the one who surfs the Web, reads and writes e-mail, and does the odd letter or maybe

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-25 Thread m . roth
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 24 September 2009 20:03:04 Curt Mills wrote: On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 24 September 2009 17:50:37 Ron Loftin wrote: My image of the low-tech user is the one who surfs the Web, reads and writes e-mail, and does the odd letter or maybe

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-25 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop.  He needs are small.  She has been used to Mozilla for both mail and browsing, so I believe if you install all the multimedia stuff that's

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-25 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 25 September 2009 17:02:24 Lanny Marcus wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop. He needs are small. She has been used to Mozilla for both mail and browsing, so

[CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Anne Wilson
I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop. He needs are small. She has been used to Mozilla for both mail and browsing, so equivalents there are not a problem. She needs grip and lame, for her mp3s - again no problem. In fact the only problem I can see

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:11 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Niki Kovacs
Anne Wilson a écrit : I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop. I'm running a small computer business in South France, installing desktops and servers for professionals like small companies. I have almost exclusively non-tech users, and CentOS + RPMForge + the odd

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 September 2009 10:31:55 Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:11 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 September 2009 10:55:15 Niki Kovacs wrote: Anne Wilson a écrit : I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop. I'm running a small computer business in South France, installing desktops and servers for professionals like small companies. I have almost

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:27 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Yea, I know, I get to keep the pieces :-) I have both of those

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 September 2009 12:38:12 Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:27 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Phil Schaffner
Anne Wilson wrote on 09/24/2009 07:54 AM: On Thursday 24 September 2009 12:38:12 Sorin Srbu wrote: ... I think if the worst comes to the worst it would be possible to install a FC6 package. Pbone says there is a package for FC6, and also offers an rpm from sourceforge. That may be a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Timothy Murphy
Anne Wilson wrote: I'm thinking of giving CentOS to a non-tech user for her new desktop. He needs are small. She has been used to Mozilla for both mail and browsing, so equivalents there are not a problem. She needs grip and lame, for her mp3s - again no problem. In fact the only

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:55 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user I don't know much about Fedora any longer, I gave it up

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Murphy Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:27 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user Why CentOS, as a matter of interest. I'm a great fan of CentOS

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 September 2009 13:23:59 Phil Schaffner wrote: Anne Wilson wrote on 09/24/2009 07:54 AM: On Thursday 24 September 2009 12:38:12 Sorin Srbu wrote: ... I think if the worst comes to the worst it would be possible to install a FC6 package. Pbone says there is a package for

Re: [CentOS] CentOS for non-tech user

2009-09-24 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 24 September 2009 13:34:24 Sorin Srbu wrote: Just to be clear, my there might be some repo(s) for this one was meant as Fedora generally speaking not, FC6 specifically. 8-) OK - I tend to think of FC6 because it's the nearest, I think, to CentOS 5.x. Anne -- New to KDE4? - get

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