On 1/5/2011 9:51 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:59:21 am Alan Hodgson wrote:
>> On January 4, 2011 07:36:27 am Lamar Owen wrote:
>>> But, honestly, I personally would love to use a
>>> PostgreSQL backend so that real concurrent access is possible;
>
>> dbmail with PostgreSQ
On Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:59:21 am Alan Hodgson wrote:
> On January 4, 2011 07:36:27 am Lamar Owen wrote:
> > But, honestly, I personally would love to use a
> > PostgreSQL backend so that real concurrent access is possible;
> dbmail with PostgreSQL works really well.
Thanks for the pointe
I've been happily using and deploying Cyrus based systems for over
a decade, so I'll jump in with my $0.02.
> Many people care about storage format.
It was mentioned previously that Cyrus IMAPd uses an internal format.
Well, it happens that that internal format is really just the mail
message it
>>
>> Odd that you would mention that, just after saying you
>> shouldn't care...
>> And in fact, some servers (e.g. dovecot) may handle more
>
> Thank you. http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir
>
> I am now going to look for a setup guide of procmail->Maildir->dovecot on
> RHEL/Cen
Jason Pyeron wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Les Mikesell
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:28
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Converting to maildir
On 1/4/2011 10:00 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
Many people care about storage format.
And they are misguided in doing so
Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 09:56 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
On 1/4/2011 8:14 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
Many people care about storage format.
And they are misguided in doing so. Details of message storage is an
internal [server's] problem.
S
> -Original Message-
> From: Les Mikesell
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 12:28
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Converting to maildir
>
> On 1/4/2011 10:00 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> >
> >>>> Many people care about storage format.
> >>&
On 1/4/2011 10:00 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>
Many people care about storage format.
>>> And they are misguided in doing so. Details of message storage is an
>>> internal [server's] problem.
>> So how do you suggest solving that problem when it is in fact a problem?
>
> You're missing th
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 09:38:47AM -0600, Jeff wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> > Looking for a guide on converting to Maildir.
> >
> > Here are our relevant specs.
> >
> > sendmail-8.12.11-4.RHEL3.6 (we may not be able to upgrade this due to too
> > many
> > modific
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org
> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Adam Tauno Williams
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:51
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Converting to maildir
>
> On Tue, 2011-01-04 at
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 09:56 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
> On 1/4/2011 8:14 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> >> Many people care about storage format.
> > And they are misguided in doing so. Details of message storage is an
> > internal [server's] problem.
> So how do you suggest solving that proble
On January 4, 2011 07:36:27 am Lamar Owen wrote:
> In my case, our primary e-mail server is Scalix, so that dictated the
> storage format. But, honestly, I personally would love to use a
> PostgreSQL backend so that real concurrent access is possible;
dbmail with PostgreSQL works really well. I m
On 1/4/2011 8:14 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>
>> Many people care about storage format.
>
> And they are misguided in doing so. Details of message storage is an
> internal [server's] problem.
So how do you suggest solving that problem when it is in fact a problem?
--
Les Mikesell
les
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 09:38 -0600, Jeff wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> And with regard to backup space, it might be time to suck it up and
> tell your users that you need to implement mail quotas. How much are
> you backing up from "Sent" and "Trash" because nobody
On 1/4/2011 9:38 AM, Jeff wrote:
>
>> Here are our relevant specs.
>>
>> sendmail-8.12.11-4.RHEL3.6 (we may not be able to upgrade this due to too
>> many
>> modifications)
>> imap-2002d-14
>> procmail-3.22-10.el3.centos.0
>>
> Regardless of the maildir vs mbox argument, I would be seriously
> ex
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> Looking for a guide on converting to Maildir.
>
> Here are our relevant specs.
>
> sendmail-8.12.11-4.RHEL3.6 (we may not be able to upgrade this due to too many
> modifications)
> imap-2002d-14
> procmail-3.22-10.el3.centos.0
>
> To a maildir
On Tuesday, January 04, 2011 09:14:57 am Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 15:06 +0100, Dominik Zyla wrote:
> > Many people care about storage format.
> And they are misguided in doing so. Details of message storage is an
> internal [server's] problem.
Hmmm, not quite.
When sel
Dominik Zyla wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 09:14:57AM -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>> On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 15:06 +0100, Dominik Zyla wrote:
>> > Mbox is much more slower during
>> > operations on it. It's because it's operate on single file,
>>
>> Correct, but who cares? If the server p
On 01/04/2011 06:14 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 15:06 +0100, Dominik Zyla wrote:
>> Many people care about storage format.
> And they are misguided in doing so. Details of message storage is an
> internal [server's] problem.
>
No. They are being eminently practical. mbo
Yup, Cyrus was rock solid for us for years with Thunderbird as the
client. We were forced into an Exchange replacement (Scalix) and now
Google mail because 'Thunderbird is clunky (read: follows all of the
user interface guidelines) and Outlook is cool (read: actually forces
overrides on windows
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 09:14:57AM -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 15:06 +0100, Dominik Zyla wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 08:52:23AM -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 20:17 -0500, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> > > > Looking for a guide on converti
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 09:07 -0500, Ross Walker wrote:
> On Jan 4, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Adam Tauno Williams
> wrote:
> > There are numerous IMAP servers that support maildir, and scripts to
> > import MBOX files - that is how I would approach it. [But then I
> > wouldn't use Maildir; I mean, really,
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 15:06 +0100, Dominik Zyla wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 08:52:23AM -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 20:17 -0500, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> > > Looking for a guide on converting to Maildir.
> > > Here are our relevant specs.
> > > sendmail-8.12.11-4.RH
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 09:05 -0500, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 20:17 -0500, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> > > Looking for a guide on converting to Maildir.
> > > Here are our relevant specs.
> > > sendmail-8.12.11-4.RHEL3.6 (we may not be able to upgrade
> > this due to
> > > too many
>
On Jan 4, 2011, at 8:52 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 20:17 -0500, Jason Pyeron wrote:
>> Looking for a guide on converting to Maildir.
>> Here are our relevant specs.
>> sendmail-8.12.11-4.RHEL3.6 (we may not be able to upgrade this due to too
>> many
>> modifications)
> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org
> [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Adam Tauno Williams
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:52
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Converting to maildir
>
> On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 2
On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 08:52:23AM -0500, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 20:17 -0500, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> > Looking for a guide on converting to Maildir.
> > Here are our relevant specs.
> > sendmail-8.12.11-4.RHEL3.6 (we may not be able to upgrade this due to too
> > many
>
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 20:17 -0500, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> Looking for a guide on converting to Maildir.
> Here are our relevant specs.
> sendmail-8.12.11-4.RHEL3.6 (we may not be able to upgrade this due to too many
> modifications)
> imap-2002d-14
> procmail-3.22-10.el3.centos.0
> To a maildir setu
Looking for a guide on converting to Maildir.
Here are our relevant specs.
sendmail-8.12.11-4.RHEL3.6 (we may not be able to upgrade this due to too many
modifications)
imap-2002d-14
procmail-3.22-10.el3.centos.0
To a maildir setup...
I was in a panic today at work because the backup server is
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