Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 08/11/2017 02:32 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Robert Nichols wrote: On 08/11/2017 12:16 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 7:53 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: On 08/10/2017 11:06 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 6:48 AM Robert Moskowitz

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-11 Thread m . roth
Robert Nichols wrote: > On 08/11/2017 12:16 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 7:53 AM, Robert Nichols >> wrote: >>> On 08/10/2017 11:06 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 6:48 AM Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-11 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 11, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: >> Yeah he'd want to do an fsck -f and see if repairs are madestem. > > fsck checks filesystem metadata, not the content of files. Chris might have been thinking of fsck -c or -k, which do various sorts of

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 08/11/2017 12:16 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 7:53 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: On 08/10/2017 11:06 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 6:48 AM Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 08/09/2017 10:46 AM, Chris Murphy

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-11 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 7:53 AM, Robert Nichols wrote: > On 08/10/2017 11:06 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 6:48 AM Robert Moskowitz >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 08/09/2017 10:46 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: If it's a bad

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-11 Thread Robert Nichols
On 08/10/2017 11:06 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 6:48 AM Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 08/09/2017 10:46 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: If it's a bad sector problem, you'd write to sector 17066160 and see if the drive complies or spits back a write error. It

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-11 Thread hw
Chris Murphy wrote: On Wed, Aug 9, 2017, 11:55 AM Mark Haney wrote: To be honest, I'd not try a btrfs volume on a notebook SSD. I did that on a couple of systems and it corrupted pretty quickly. I'd stick with xfs/ext4 if you manage to get the drive working again.

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 10, 2017, at 2:17 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > > On 8/10/2017 1:12 PM, Warren Young wrote: >> You want those pages to get swapped out quickly so that the precious RAM can >> be used more productively; by the buffer cache, if nothing else. > > most modern virtual

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 10/08/17 21:17, John R Pierce wrote: > On 8/10/2017 1:12 PM, Warren Young wrote: >> It’s a bad idea to do without swap even if you almost never use it, >> because today’s bloated apps often have many pages of virtual memory >> they rarely or never actually touch. You want those pages to get >>

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 10, 2017, at 10:46 AM, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: > > is that because the drive is compressing the information? No. I believe by “probabilistic representation” the parent poster simply means that in any given data cell, you don’t have a hard “1” or “0”, you have some

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread John R Pierce
On 8/10/2017 1:12 PM, Warren Young wrote: It’s a bad idea to do without swap even if you almost never use it, because today’s bloated apps often have many pages of virtual memory they rarely or never actually touch. You want those pages to get swapped out quickly so that the precious RAM can

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 10, 2017, at 2:07 AM, John Hodrien wrote: > > For a well configured desktop that rarely needs to swap, I struggle to see the > load on the SSD as being significant, and yet obviously the performance of an > SSD would make it ideal for swap. I agree. It’s a bad

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread m . roth
Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 6:48 AM Robert Moskowitz > wrote: > >> >> >> On 08/09/2017 10:46 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> > If it's a bad sector problem, you'd write to sector 17066160 and see >> if >> the >> > drive complies or spits back a write error. It

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
is that because the drive is compressing the information?  is there a way to turn this off?  i hate mandatory compression as losing one bit in a compressed file tends to be a big deal compared to the same in an uncompressed file. -- Securely sent with Tutanota. Claim your encrypted mailbox

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017, 6:48 AM Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > > On 08/09/2017 10:46 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > If it's a bad sector problem, you'd write to sector 17066160 and see if > the > > drive complies or spits back a write error. It looks like a bad sector in > > that

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017, 11:55 AM Mark Haney wrote: > To be honest, I'd not try a btrfs volume on a notebook SSD. I did that on a > couple of systems and it corrupted pretty quickly. I'd stick with xfs/ext4 if you manage to get the drive working again. > Sounds like a

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Other than the 17K output from smartctl -x, what do you recommend? smartctl -a is a little easier on the eye. jh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 08/10/2017 10:31 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 08/09/2017 10:44 PM, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: what file system are you using? ssd drives have different characteristics that need to be accomadated (including a relatively slow write process which

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread hw
Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 08/09/2017 01:48 PM, hw wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am building a new system using an Kingston 240GB SSD drive I pulled from my notebook (when I had to upgrade to a 500GB SSD drive). Centos install went fine and ran for a couple days then got errors on the

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread hw
Mark Haney wrote: To be honest, I'd not try a btrfs volume on a notebook SSD. I did that on a couple of systems and it corrupted pretty quickly. I'd stick with xfs/ext4 if you manage to get the drive working again. That was merely to see if a trim operation on the whole device would bring

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread m . roth
Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 08/09/2017 10:44 PM, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: >> what file system are you using? ssd drives have different >> characteristics that need to be accomadated (including a relatively slow >> write process which is obvious as soon as the buffer is full),

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
os.org> ] On Behalf Of Robert Moskowitz Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 17:03 To: CentOS mailing list <> centos@centos.org> > Subject: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive I am building a new system using an Kingston 240GB SSD drive I pulled from my notebook (when I had to upgrade to a 500GB SSD dr

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 08/09/2017 01:48 PM, hw wrote: Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am building a new system using an Kingston 240GB SSD drive I pulled from my notebook (when I had to upgrade to a 500GB SSD drive). Centos install went fine and ran for a couple days then got errors on the console. Here is an

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread Robert Moskowitz
On 08/09/2017 10:46 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: If it's a bad sector problem, you'd write to sector 17066160 and see if the drive complies or spits back a write error. It looks like a bad sector in that the same LBA is reported each time but I've only ever seen this with both a read error and a

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: what file system are you using?  ssd drives have different characteristics that need to be accomadated (including a relatively slow write process which is obvious as soon as the buffer is full), and never, never put a swap

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-09 Thread mad.scientist.at.large
entOS [> mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org> ] On Behalf Of Robert > Moskowitz > Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 17:03 > To: CentOS mailing list <> centos@centos.org> > > Subject: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive > > I am building a new system using an Kingston 240GB SS

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-09 Thread Eliezer Croitoru
org> Subject: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive I am building a new system using an Kingston 240GB SSD drive I pulled from my notebook (when I had to upgrade to a 500GB SSD drive). Centos install went fine and ran for a couple days then got errors on the console. Here is an example: [168176.995064

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-09 Thread Mark Haney
To be honest, I'd not try a btrfs volume on a notebook SSD. I did that on a couple of systems and it corrupted pretty quickly. I'd stick with xfs/ext4 if you manage to get the drive working again.

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-09 Thread hw
Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am building a new system using an Kingston 240GB SSD drive I pulled from my notebook (when I had to upgrade to a 500GB SSD drive). Centos install went fine and ran for a couple days then got errors on the console. Here is an example: [168176.995064] sd 0:0:0:0:

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-09 Thread Chris Murphy
If it's a bad sector problem, you'd write to sector 17066160 and see if the drive complies or spits back a write error. It looks like a bad sector in that the same LBA is reported each time but I've only ever seen this with both a read error and a UNC error. So I'm not sure it's a bad sector.

[CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I am building a new system using an Kingston 240GB SSD drive I pulled from my notebook (when I had to upgrade to a 500GB SSD drive). Centos install went fine and ran for a couple days then got errors on the console. Here is an example: [168176.995064] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] tag#14 FAILED Result: