ubject: Re: [CentOS] How will fragmentation help Red Hat
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-From: "Steven Rosenberg"
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] How will fragmentation help Red Hat
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 4:21
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 4:21 AM Josh Boyer wrote:
>
> Competition in the Enterprise Linux space is a good thing. If a
> company or community other than Red Hat starts serving a market that
> RHEL can't, it forces Red Hat to evaluate and adjust. It keeps
> everyone pushing and developing
On 2023-07-13 10:28, Tom Bishop wrote:
Eh I beg to differ it's pretty clear that Magnus is calling folks
freeloaders...
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/problem-rocky-linux-free-beer-magnus-glantz/
I've read that article several times, including just now with an eye out
for such an accusation,
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 12:17 PM Gordon Messmer
wrote:
> On 2023-07-13 09:00, Tom Bishop wrote:
> > as
> > referenced by one of the many RH articles, we are all just freeloaders
> > so we shouldn't be missed.
>
>
> I don't believe there are any Red Hat articles that call user freeloaders.
>
> I'm
nsulting. Teach the customer how to fish
and they feed themselves and the footprint keeps growing!
-Original Message-
From: Simon Matter
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To: Leon Fauster , CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] How will fragmentation help Red Hat
Date: Thu, 13 Jul
On 2023-07-13 09:00, Tom Bishop wrote:
as
referenced by one of the many RH articles, we are all just freeloaders
so we shouldn't be missed.
I don't believe there are any Red Hat articles that call user freeloaders.
I'm aware of one personal blog, not on the redhat.com site, in which the
>
> Well, as RH's announcement is quite some day ago, I had time to reflect
> this jumble. The whole thing is much more complex than people want to
> admit and I will not decompose this all here now. Honestly I see
> the open source ecosystem like a hardware store. You have everything
> that you
> On 2023-07-13 05:11, mario juliano grande-balletta wrote:
>> IBM wants to make money, PERIOD. They paid billions for RedHat and
>> investors, executives, want ROI and profit, period. No excuses.
>>
>> So, they are locking down RedHat and closing channels to important
>> software/materials. It
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 10:48 AM Gordon Messmer
wrote:
>
> On 2023-07-13 03:12, Simon Matter wrote:
> > As I found out yesterday, the fragmentation of the "Enterprise Linux"
> > ecosystem just started to come true.
>
>
> I've been trying to figure out what SUSE meant when they announced a
> "hard
On 2023-07-13 05:11, mario juliano grande-balletta wrote:
IBM wants to make money, PERIOD. They paid billions for RedHat and
investors, executives, want ROI and profit, period. No excuses.
So, they are locking down RedHat and closing channels to important
software/materials. It is what
On 2023-07-13 03:12, Simon Matter wrote:
As I found out yesterday, the fragmentation of the "Enterprise Linux"
ecosystem just started to come true.
I've been trying to figure out what SUSE meant when they announced a
"hard fork" of RHEL. If they mean to maintain a fork that remains
Am 13.07.23 um 14:42 schrieb Tom Bishop:
I think I finally need to remove myself from the centos mail list but
coming from @redhat worker trying to explain what their company has
done, is pretty disingenuous to say the least. It's pretty clear what
they are trying to do and it's all driven by
Tom nailed it for me, similar boat. We moved to Rocky as a holding position
with their LTS, but it just doesn't make sense any more to use a Redhat
base with any new server.
The trust I think has gone since the Centos rug pull, and that's important.
I do think we'll see some changes to come (I
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] How will fragmentation help Red Hat
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 07:20:50 -0400
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:13 AM Simon Matter
wrote:
Hi,
As I found out yesterday, the fragmentation of the "Enterprise Linux"
ecosystem just started to
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> From: Josh Boyer
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> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] How will fragmentation help Red Hat
> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 07:20:50 -0400
>
> On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:13 AM Simon Matter
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
helps further the conversation that
Simon started in earnest. I think Simon asks good questions and it's
worth a discussion. If your suggestion is to not recommend Red Hat
distributions, what would you recommend instead and why?
josh
> -Original Message-
> From: Josh Boyer
> Reply-To
of mistakes and flops too! This is a flop.
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From: Josh Boyer
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To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] How will fragmentation help Red Hat
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2023 07:20:50 -0400
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:13 AM Simon Matter
wrote:
>
&
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:13 AM Simon Matter wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> As I found out yesterday, the fragmentation of the "Enterprise Linux"
> ecosystem just started to come true. I expect this is only the beginning
> and Red Hat may also start to completely hold back sources of non GPL
> software which
Hi,
As I found out yesterday, the fragmentation of the "Enterprise Linux"
ecosystem just started to come true. I expect this is only the beginning
and Red Hat may also start to completely hold back sources of non GPL
software which is part of the "Enterprise Linux" ecosystem.
I'm really
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