On 30/10/2018 19:57, Rainer Duffner wrote:
> Found something:
>
> https://www.nextplatform.com/2018/02/15/ins-outs-ibms-power9-zz-systems/
>
>
> That’s the entry-level, I presume?
Thanks for that. Those were the kinds of prices I was vaguely
remembering. Not totally out of whack compared to high
> Am 30.10.2018 um 20:37 schrieb mark :
>
>>
> Unless I'm misremembering, these are midway between small server and
> mainframe. I just did a search, and only found used systems, never new,
> and they were all "refurbed", starting at $1500, and going up to $22k...
> and still refurbed.
>
> I
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From: CentOS On Behalf Of John Plemons
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2018 3:44 PM
To: CentOS mailing list ; mark
Subject: Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat
If any one
If any one is interested, I have a brand new AS400 sitting upstairs in
my computer room, it was a bought as surplus item, never used. I just
hung onto it. It can be yours cheap, not wanting an arm and a leg for
it, I would be open to a nice offer if anyone has an interest.
john plemons
On
Mark Rousell wrote:
> On 30/10/2018 17:14, Simon Matter wrote:
> Yup. When I looked at IBM Power machines before (maybe about a year ago,
> not sure), there was actually a pricing tool on the website. You could go
> through various options for machines (GPUs, CPUs, storage, memory, etc.)
> and
On 30/10/2018 17:14, Simon Matter wrote:
> Are you sure, has this changed? In the past time when I had to do with
> iSeries, they even had their own rack size, no chance to put them into a
> standard server rack.
Ah, I must admit that I didn't look at rack sizes.
> I agree the Power System L922
On 10/30/18 12:47 PM, Mark Rousell wrote:
On 30/10/2018 16:40, mark wrote:
Linux was IBM's silver
bullet on a free platter. I mean, *how* many operatings systems do you
want to support...?
Yup, it must cost them a pretty penny to maintain all those proprietary
operating systems (especially
On 30/10/2018 16:40, mark wrote:
> Linux was IBM's silver
> bullet on a free platter. I mean, *how* many operatings systems do you
> want to support...?
Yup, it must cost them a pretty penny to maintain all those proprietary
operating systems (especially when you include their mainframe ones). I
> On 30/10/2018 14:40, Simon Matter wrote:
>>> On 30/10/2018 06:46, Simon Matter wrote:
> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
>> To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM
>> POWER
>> and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the
>>
Mark Rousell wrote:
> On 30/10/2018 14:49, mark wrote:
>
>
>> I wouldn't expect a system 1, if that's the current name
>>
>
> AS/400 -> eServer iSeries -> System i -> Power Systems
> RS/6000 -> eServer pSeries -> System p -> Power Systems
>
>
> So the current 'Power Systems' range combines what
On 30/10/2018 14:49, mark wrote:
> I wouldn't expect a system 1, if that's the current name
AS/400 -> eServer iSeries -> System i -> Power Systems
RS/6000 -> eServer pSeries -> System p -> Power Systems
So the current 'Power Systems' range combines what was AS/400 with what
was RS/6000. They
On 30/10/2018 14:40, Simon Matter wrote:
>> On 30/10/2018 06:46, Simon Matter wrote:
On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
> To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM
> POWER
> and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the
> hardware
Am 2018-10-30 15:53, schrieb Simon Matter:
Still I wasn't sure how to compare the real life speed of POWER9
compared
to something like the AMD EPYC 7601.
It probably depends on the workload.
And then, will everything work smooth
on POWER the same way it does on the AMD?
AFAIK, there were
> On 2018-10-30 02:46, Simon Matter wrote:
>>> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM
POWER
and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the
hardware
market again (and of course don't forget
Simon Matter wrote:
>> On 30/10/2018 06:46, Simon Matter wrote:
>>
On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
> To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM
> POWER
> and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the
> hardware market
> On 30/10/2018 06:46, Simon Matter wrote:
>>> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM
POWER
and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the
hardware
market again (and of course don't forget
On 2018-10-30 02:46, Simon Matter wrote:
On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM
POWER
and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the
hardware
market again (and of course don't forget to keep Fedora/CentOS
On 30/10/2018 06:46, Simon Matter wrote:
>> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
>>> To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER
>>> and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the hardware
>>> market again (and of course don't forget to keep
Am 2018-10-30 10:03, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.:
_To me it looks pathetic that a lively profitable entity with an
entirely different corporate psychology is consumed by big
conglomerates. What for? _
Even more profit.
Also, borrowing money is still very cheap these days (AFAIK, Amazon
On 10/30/18 3:27 AM, rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote:
Am 2018-10-30 08:06, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.:
Yeah.I guess that's one way to look at it.
My biggest worry? Is I've placed so much time and effort "getting to
know" Fedora and its intricacies, idiosyncrasies, its ins and
On 30/10/2018 09:25, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 10/30/18 3:20 AM, Rob Kampen wrote:
On 30/10/18 20:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 10/30/18 2:46 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM
POWER
Am 2018-10-30 08:06, schrieb Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.:
Yeah.I guess that's one way to look at it.
My biggest worry? Is I've placed so much time and effort "getting to
know" Fedora and its intricacies, idiosyncrasies, its ins and
outs...dealt with ridicule on this very same list when I first
On 10/30/18 3:20 AM, Rob Kampen wrote:
On 30/10/18 20:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 10/30/18 2:46 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM
POWER
and RedHat Linux together to establish real
On 30/10/18 20:06, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 10/30/18 2:46 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM
POWER
and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the
hardware
market again (and
On 10/30/18 2:46 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER
and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the hardware
market again (and of course don't forget to keep Fedora/CentOS
> On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
>> To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER
>> and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the hardware
>> market again (and of course don't forget to keep Fedora/CentOS alive)!
>
> Er, RHEL has been running
On 10/29/18 1:55 AM, Simon Matter wrote:
To me it seems like, if they are smart, they will try to push IBM POWER
and RedHat Linux together to establish real competition in the hardware
market again (and of course don't forget to keep Fedora/CentOS alive)!
Er, RHEL has been running on Power for
On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 at 23:23, Valeri Galtsev
wrote:
>
> 2. Does anybody still remember OS/2 which lost userbase to MS Windows for
> workgroups, but IBM still supported it for quite long period of time. And
> OS/2 was much better IMHO.
>
>
As a long-time OS/2 user, I do remember, and damn what a
>
> On Sun, October 28, 2018 6:07 pm, mark wrote:
>> On 10/28/18 17:54, Zube wrote:
>>> On Sun Oct 28 10:20:31 PM, Alain péan wrote:
>>>
Le 28/10/2018 à 22:10, Albert McCann a écrit :
> Damn, this is bad enough to make one weep.
Red Hat would stay as a distinct entity inside
On Sun, October 28, 2018 6:07 pm, mark wrote:
> On 10/28/18 17:54, Zube wrote:
>> On Sun Oct 28 10:20:31 PM, Alain péan wrote:
>>
>>> Le 28/10/2018 à 22:10, Albert McCann a écrit :
Damn, this is bad enough to make one weep.
>>>
>>> Red Hat would stay as a distinct entity inside IBM. IBM
On 10/28/18 19:07, mark wrote:
On 10/28/18 17:54, Zube wrote:
On Sun Oct 28 10:20:31 PM, Alain péan wrote:
Le 28/10/2018 à 22:10, Albert McCann a écrit :
Damn, this is bad enough to make one weep.
Red Hat would stay as a distinct entity inside IBM. IBM has also
contributed to Free
On 10/28/18 17:54, Zube wrote:
On Sun Oct 28 10:20:31 PM, Alain péan wrote:
Le 28/10/2018 à 22:10, Albert McCann a écrit :
Damn, this is bad enough to make one weep.
Red Hat would stay as a distinct entity inside IBM. IBM has also
contributed to Free software, and especially Linux kernel.
I
On Sun Oct 28 11:07:50 PM, Jos Vos wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 03:54:06PM -0600, Zube wrote:
>
> > That old war wound started aching again.
> >
> > IBM:Redhat :: Oracle:Sun
>
> At least IBM is a far more attractive buyer than the evil Oracle,
> well known for killing OSS companies as a
On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 03:54:06PM -0600, Zube wrote:
> > Le 28/10/2018 à 22:10, Albert McCann a écrit :
> >
> > Red Hat would stay as a distinct entity inside IBM. IBM has also
> > contributed to Free software, and especially Linux kernel.
> > I don't know how bad it is and the implications for
On Sun Oct 28 10:20:31 PM, Alain péan wrote:
> Le 28/10/2018 à 22:10, Albert McCann a écrit :
> > Damn, this is bad enough to make one weep.
>
> Red Hat would stay as a distinct entity inside IBM. IBM has also
> contributed to Free software, and especially Linux kernel.
> I don't know how bad it
> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Alain péan
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 5:21 PM
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat
>
> Le 28/10/2018 à 22:10, Albert McCann a écrit :
> > Damn,
Le 28/10/2018 à 22:10, Albert McCann a écrit :
> Damn, this is bad enough to make one weep.
Red Hat would stay as a distinct entity inside IBM. IBM has also
contributed to Free software, and especially Linux kernel.
I don't know how bad it is and the implications for CentOS...
Alain
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On 10/28/2018 02:10 PM, Albert McCann wrote:
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From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Larry
Martell
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 4:11 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm
> -Original Message-
> From: CentOS [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Larry
> Martell
> Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2018 4:11 PM
> To: CentOS mailing list
> Subject: [CentOS] IBM buying RedHat
>
> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-is-reportedly-ne
On 28/10/18 20:10, Larry Martell wrote:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-is-reportedly-nearing-deal-to-acquire-red-hat.html
Also announced on IBM's website:
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-is-reportedly-nearing-deal-to-acquire-red-hat.html
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