Am 28.07.2018 um 00:09 schrieb Gordon Messmer:
Personally, I use SOGo (which also supports EAS). It didn't get many
mentions in the this thread, which is unfortunate because it's *really*
good.
Please pay attention that you will have to pay extra for ActiveSync to
Microsoft as SOGo does not
On 07/25/2018 08:18 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
OK, what you say is true in theory. However, in Thunderbird on Linux
and using Mac clients, etc .. and certainly on Windows workstation
clients using outlook .. zimbra does not work well. It also does not
work well on people's smart phone
On 2018-07-25, Meikel wrote:
>> [...] People want their phone to
>> remind them of their appointments [...]
>
> It's a generalization. Not valid for all people.
>
> Maybe SOME people want their phone to remind them of their appointsments.
And if some of those people are in your organization then
- Original Message -
> From: "Johnny Hughes"
> To: centos@centos.org
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:18:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based
> SMTP Servers?
> On 07/19/2018 03:18 PM, David C. Miller wrot
[...] People want their phone to
remind them of their appointments [...]
It's a generalization. Not valid for all people.
Maybe SOME people want their phone to remind them of their appointsments.
My appointments are synchronized from owncloud to Thunderbird and to
many (LineageOS-based)
On 07/19/2018 03:18 PM, David C. Miller wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Keith Keller"
>> To: centos@centos.org
>> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:33:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or
>&
On Saturday 21 July 2018 21:08:59 Michael Schumacher wrote:
> folks, didn't anybody check the name of this guy?
>
> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> drops a bomb with provocative questions every now and then and NEVER
> ever responds to his own bullshit. He is just a troll!
This may be the
On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 20:41:40 -0700
Keith Keller wrote:
> On 2018-07-22, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> >
> > And on top of all: MS Windows is the only systems I know of whose
> > vendor tells you, it is not safe to run without 3rd party software
> > (antivirus).
>
> AFAIK (my son runs Windows, to
On 2018-07-21, Michael Schumacher wrote:
> folks, didn't anybody check the name of this guy?
>
> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> drops a bomb with provocative questions every now and then and NEVER
> ever responds to his own bullshit. He is just a troll!
This is why I asked him why he
On 2018-07-22, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> And on top of all: MS Windows is the only systems I know of whose vendor
> tells you, it is not safe to run without 3rd party software (antivirus).
AFAIK (my son runs Windows, to my shame) Windows now comes bundled with
antivirus software. I have no idea
On Wed, July 18, 2018 11:42 am, Kenneth Porter wrote:
> On 7/18/2018 9:03 AM, mark wrote:
>> Based on experience at a number of jobs, Exchange may appear to be easy
>> to
>> configure, but as soon as you get past the utterly basic configuration,
>> when management or other departments want more,
folks, didn't anybody check the name of this guy?
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
drops a bomb with provocative questions every now and then and NEVER
ever responds to his own bullshit. He is just a troll!
Michael
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On 7/18/2018 9:03 AM, mark wrote:
Based on experience at a number of jobs, Exchange may appear to be easy to
configure, but as soon as you get past the utterly basic configuration,
when management or other departments want more, it then becomes a major
headache.
I like to say that Windows is
On 07/19/18 09:14, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 07/18/2018 04:05 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On 07/18/18 14:36, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 07/18/2018 01:58 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling
for individual users and the main
On 2018-07-20, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 20/07/2018 à 07:44, Keith Keller a écrit :
>> A public SMTP server is not the easiest thing to configure, period.
>> It is the quintessential rope on which many admins hang themselves.
>
> It's not rocket science either, but you have to be willing to
Le 20/07/2018 à 09:12, Promise Kumalo a écrit :
> Just out of curiosity, why are you not using something like Kolab or
> Zimbra?
Don't know. Never tried these, because I'm comfortable with Postfix,
Dovecot and Spamassassin. I might give these a spin though.
Thanks for the heads up.
Niki
--
On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 09:57:22 -0500
Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> As far as google anything goes, not everybody volunteers one's
> information into paws of google (and quite likely one or more of 3
> letter agencies collecting information that way). I know (call it
> educated guess) that about
On Thu, July 19, 2018 10:57, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> . . . you don't need to recruit spies anymore, just roll out "free"
> services, and information will trickle to you. I am old enough to know
> what collection of information on everybody leads to (Hitler Germany,
> Stalin Russia, ...), but
Just out of curiosity, why are you not using something like Kolab or Zimbra?
On 07/20/2018 02:44 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> Le 18/07/2018 à 17:04, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming a écrit :
>> One of the features of Microsoft Exchange 2016 is that you can create
>> additional folders on your
Le 20/07/2018 à 07:44, Keith Keller a écrit :
> A public SMTP server is not the easiest thing to configure, period.
> It is the quintessential rope on which many admins hang themselves.
It's not rocket science either, but you have to be willing to read (a
lot) and experiment (a lot).
In France
On 2018-07-19, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> I'd say mail
> servers are not the easiest thing to configure under Linux.
A public SMTP server is not the easiest thing to configure, period.
It is the quintessential rope on which many admins hang themselves.
--keith
--
On 07/19/18 17:51, Alice Wonder wrote:
On 07/19/2018 07:14 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 07/18/2018 04:05 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On 07/18/18 14:36, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 07/18/2018 01:58 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring /
On 07/19/2018 07:14 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 07/18/2018 04:05 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On 07/18/18 14:36, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 07/18/2018 01:58 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling
for individual users and the main
Le 18/07/2018 à 17:04, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming a écrit :
> One of the features of Microsoft Exchange 2016 is that you can create
> additional folders on your Inbox in the server (server-side). Can
> Linux-based SMTP servers do that?
I'm running a few bone-headed mail servers for schools
- Original Message -
> From: "Keith Keller"
> To: centos@centos.org
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:33:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based
> SMTP Servers?
> On 2018-07-19, Mark Rousell wrote:
>>
19 jul 2018 kl. 20:33 skrev Keith Keller :
> On 2018-07-19, Mark Rousell wrote:
>>
>> Well said. I feel that too many people today have forgotten (or, more
>> likely, never learned) these lessons from history. People give away
>> their personal and supposedly private information too easily and,
On 2018-07-19, Mark Rousell wrote:
>
> Well said. I feel that too many people today have forgotten (or, more
> likely, never learned) these lessons from history. People give away
> their personal and supposedly private information too easily and, I feel
> certain, will come to regret it (some
On 07/19/2018 09:57 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>
> As far as google anything goes, not everybody volunteers one's
> information into paws of google (and quite likely one or more of 3
> letter agencies collecting information that way). I know (call it
> educated guess) that about 70% of
Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> As far as google anything goes, not everybody volunteers one's
> information into paws of google (and quite likely one or more of 3 letter
> agencies collecting information that way). I know (call it educated guess)
> that about 70% of messages I send are ending up in
On 19/07/2018 15:57, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> As far as google anything goes, not everybody volunteers one's
> information into paws of google (and quite likely one or more of 3
> letter agencies collecting information that way). I know (call it
> educated guess) that about 70% of messages I
On 07/19/18 09:14, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 07/18/2018 04:05 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On 07/18/18 14:36, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 07/18/2018 01:58 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling
for individual users and the main
On 07/18/2018 04:05 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>
> On 07/18/18 14:36, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 07/18/2018 01:58 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling
for individual users and the main corporate account, etc. ..
On 2018-07-18, 15:05, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
No, owncloud/nextcloud don't work with IMAP as far as I know.
Mail server is separate issue.
Depend on what you define as "work with IMAP", Nextcloud does
not come with IMAP server, but installing an IMAP server on the
side of Nextcloud/Owncloud
On 2018-07-18, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
wrote:
>
> I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based
> SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim.
Why are you multiposting this question to multiple mailing lists?
--keith
--
kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us
about this stuff. Rolling
your own now days is not worth it in most cases.
David Miller.
- Original Message -
> From: "Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming"
> To: centos@centos.org
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 8:04:52 AM
> Subject: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft
On 07/18/18 14:36, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 07/18/2018 01:58 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling
for individual users and the main corporate account, etc. .. are working
well enough with any Linux solution.
I must confess, my
Am 18.07.2018 um 20:27 schrieb Johnny Hughes :
>
> So, I don't think anyone can call me a 'non linux' guy :)
>
> But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling
> for individual users and the main corporate account, etc. .. are working
> well enough with any Linux
On 18/07/2018 17:04, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
Zarafa is also a very good Linux Exchange Like !!!
Good evening from Singapore,
I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based
SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim.
Relative ease of installation
On 07/18/2018 01:58 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling
>> for individual users and the main corporate account, etc. .. are working
>> well enough with any Linux solution.
>
> I must confess, my servers are FreeBSD, but I'm quite
> Good evening from Singapore,
> I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based
> SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim.
> Relative ease of installation and configuration is an important
> consideration factor.
I think we didn't hear about some important
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Am 18.07.2018 um 20:27 schrieb Johnny Hughes:
[...]
>
> But are you guys really telling you think the calendaring / scheduling for
> individual users and the main corporate account, etc. .. are working well
> enough with any Linux solution.
>
Andrew Holway wrote:
>> Andrew, you should understand that you are talking to experts in Linux
>> here.
>>
>
> No, i was talking to the OP who is seemingly not an expert. Advising
> those who not competent that they can set up and run their own mailserver
> is probably negligent.
>
> Whipping up
On 07/18/18 13:27, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 07/18/2018 12:33 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On 07/18/18 12:24, Andrew Holway wrote:
Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of
nightmares
on Linux.
Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this
went
On 07/18/2018 12:33 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
>
> On 07/18/18 12:24, Andrew Holway wrote:
>>>
Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of
nightmares
on Linux.
>>>
>>> Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this
>>> went
>>> to the
>
> So, you'd say a company should use outside email? I would very strongly
> suggest that's a BAD idea. For example, when M$ sucked all our local
> Exchange accounts to their cloud, I understand (I'm not in that group)
> that this was a one-way deal. From a friend, who's a consultant, he was
>
> Andrew, you should understand that you are talking to experts in Linux
> here.
>
No, i was talking to the OP who is seemingly not an expert. Advising those
who not competent that they can set up and run their own mailserver is
probably negligent.
Whipping up Exim and Dovecot for your own
Andrew Holway wrote:
>>> Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of
>>> nightmares on Linux.
>>
>> Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this
>> went to the CentOS general discussion list.
>
> I specifically meant setting up and running email services
On 07/18/18 12:24, Andrew Holway wrote:
Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of nightmares
on Linux.
Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this went
to the CentOS general discussion list.
I specifically meant setting up and running email
On 07/18/2018 10:24 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:
Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of nightmares
on Linux.
Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this went
to the CentOS general discussion list.
I specifically meant setting up and running
On 07/18/18 11:59, mark wrote:
Andrew Holway wrote:
In addition, if you go to 365, you are NOT BUYING the software, you're
renting the service. You will be paying every year, and a service
contract will cost, and, presumably, cost more every year.
Still a lot better than trying to run
>
> > Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of nightmares
> > on Linux.
>
> Beg pardon? Did I make a mistake on the email address? I thought this went
> to the CentOS general discussion list.
>
I specifically meant setting up and running email services on linux is not
for the
Andrew Holway wrote:
>>
>> In addition, if you go to 365, you are NOT BUYING the software, you're
>> renting the service. You will be paying every year, and a service
>> contract will cost, and, presumably, cost more every year.
>>
>
> Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of
On 07/18/18 11:03, mark wrote:
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based
SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim.
Relative ease of installation and configuration is an important
consideration factor.
Microsoft
>
> In addition, if you go to 365, you are NOT BUYING the software, you're
> renting the service. You will be paying every year, and a service contract
> will cost, and, presumably, cost more every year.
>
Still a lot better than trying to run your own hodge-podge of nightmares on
Linux.
Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
>
> I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based
> SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim.
>
> Relative ease of installation and configuration is an important
> consideration factor.
>
> Microsoft Exchange 2016, Domain
> hi there
>
> I would categorize Exchange 2016 as "groupware" rather than SMTP server
> per say, because you sent lots of stuff out of Exchange.
>
>
> so to compare Exchange with postfix, exim would not be a proper
> comparison. For Linux based groupware that i know is completely free is
>
is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based
SMTP Servers?
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 03:04:52PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> One of the features of Microsoft Exchange 2016 is that you can create
> additional folders on your Inbox in the server (server-side). Can
> Li
ts in the Linux world, it is Zimbra and Kolab.
>
>
>
> From: CentOS on behalf of Promise Kumalo
>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 11:38 PM
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-ba
] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based
SMTP Servers?
hi there
I would categorize Exchange 2016 as "groupware" rather than SMTP server
per say, because you sent lots of stuff out of Exchange.
so to compare Exchange with postfix, exim would not be a proper
comparison.
hi there
I would categorize Exchange 2016 as "groupware" rather than SMTP server
per say, because you sent lots of stuff out of Exchange.
so to compare Exchange with postfix, exim would not be a proper
comparison. For Linux based groupware that i know is completely free is
Kolab
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 03:04:52PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> Microsoft Exchange 2016, Domain Controller, and Active Directory are
> relatively easy to install and configure. Linux-based SMTP servers are
> extremely difficult to install and configure and of course, extremely
On 07/18/2018 10:04 AM, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> Good evening from Singapore,
>
> I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based
> SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim.
>
> Relative ease of installation and configuration is an important
>
topsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming"
> To: "CentOS mailing list"
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 July, 2018 16:04:52
> Subject: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based
> SMTP Servers?
> Good evening from Singapore,
>
> I am torn between deploying
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 03:04:52PM +, Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming wrote:
> One of the features of Microsoft Exchange 2016 is that you can create
> additional folders on your Inbox in the server (server-side). Can
> Linux-based SMTP servers do that?
>
> Does Exchange 2016 offer more
Good evening from Singapore,
I am torn between deploying Microsoft Exchange 2016 and Linux-based
SMTP servers like sendmail, postfix, qmail and exim.
Relative ease of installation and configuration is an important
consideration factor.
Microsoft Exchange 2016, Domain Controller, and Active
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