Re: [CentOS] http error when updating 7.5 ==> 7.6

2019-03-26 Thread Fred Smith
On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 10:01:12AM -0400, Chris Schanzle via CentOS wrote:
> On 3/25/19 8:32 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> >This is not the first time we have had issues with drpms in the update tree.
> >Would anyone be opposed to taking away deltarpms from the repositories?
> >
> >They take up lots of space and they have cause multiple issues in the past.
> >
> >Thoughts?
> 
> 
> Due to the disk churn deltarpms need and our own internal mirroring of centos 
> packages, one of the first things I do post-install is disable deltarpms.
> 
> However, I'm sure there are users on limited connections (either monthly cap 
> or slow) who appreciate the deltarpms who are not on this list to cast their 
> vote.
> 
> I suppose the only way to find out is to take them away and if there is 
> outcry, put them back.

Works for me.


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Re: [CentOS] http error when updating 7.5 ==> 7.6

2019-03-26 Thread Chris Schanzle via CentOS

On 3/25/19 8:32 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:

This is not the first time we have had issues with drpms in the update tree.
Would anyone be opposed to taking away deltarpms from the repositories?

They take up lots of space and they have cause multiple issues in the past.

Thoughts?



Due to the disk churn deltarpms need and our own internal mirroring of centos 
packages, one of the first things I do post-install is disable deltarpms.

However, I'm sure there are users on limited connections (either monthly cap or 
slow) who appreciate the deltarpms who are not on this list to cast their vote.

I suppose the only way to find out is to take them away and if there is outcry, 
put them back.


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Re: [CentOS] http error when updating 7.5 ==> 7.6

2019-03-26 Thread Nux!
Nothing against removing drpms. Nuke them.

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- Original Message -
> From: "johnny" 
> To: "CentOS mailing list" 
> Sent: Monday, 25 March, 2019 12:32:33
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] http error when updating 7.5 ==> 7.6

> On 3/25/19 6:37 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> On 3/23/19 9:19 AM, Bez Thomas wrote:
>>>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Fred Smith  
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Was just doing a (very) belated update on a 7.5 system and ran into
>>>> this set of errors:
>>>>
>>>
>>>> Some delta RPMs failed to download or rebuild. Retrying..
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> so, anybody know why we're getting the 416 error from yum but not from
>>>> firefox?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Fred,
>>>
>>> Ran into this yesterday. It seems to be a delta rpm problem.
>>> Firefox is working because it’s downloading the whole rpm, avoiding the 
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> setting
>>> deltarpm=0
>>> in /etc/yum.conf is an equivalent workaround, and fixed the issue for me.
>>>
>>> I’d appreciate someone who knows more about how delta rpms work weighing in 
>>> on
>>> what the actual issue is.
>>>
>> 
>> Not sure what happened with the drpms, but I will regenerate all the
>> polkit drpms with the upcoming ghostscript release later this morning.
>> 
>> I added drpm tests to our pre-release CI tests as well.
>> 
> 
> This is not the first time we have had issues with drpms in the update tree.
> 
> Would anyone be opposed to taking away deltarpms from the repositories?
> 
> They take up lots of space and they have cause multiple issues in the past.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [CentOS] http error when updating 7.5 ==> 7.6

2019-03-25 Thread Fred Smith
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 07:32:33AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 3/25/19 6:37 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > On 3/23/19 9:19 AM, Bez Thomas wrote:
> >>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Fred Smith  
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Was just doing a (very) belated update on a 7.5 system and ran into
> >>> this set of errors:
> >>>
> >>
> >>> Some delta RPMs failed to download or rebuild. Retrying..
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> so, anybody know why we're getting the 416 error from yum but not from
> >>> firefox?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi Fred,
> >>
> >> Ran into this yesterday. It seems to be a delta rpm problem.
> >> Firefox is working because it’s downloading the whole rpm, avoiding the 
> >> issue.
> >>
> >> setting 
> >> deltarpm=0
> >> in /etc/yum.conf is an equivalent workaround, and fixed the issue for me. 
> >>
> >> I’d appreciate someone who knows more about how delta rpms work weighing 
> >> in on what the actual issue is.
> >>
> > 
> > Not sure what happened with the drpms, but I will regenerate all the
> > polkit drpms with the upcoming ghostscript release later this morning.
> > 
> > I added drpm tests to our pre-release CI tests as well.
> > 
> 
> This is not the first time we have had issues with drpms in the update tree.
> 
> Would anyone be opposed to taking away deltarpms from the repositories?
> 
> They take up lots of space and they have cause multiple issues in the past.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> 

Johnny, thanks for looking into this.

I, for one, have no  issue with there being no drpms. their purpose was,
as I recall, to save bandwidth. this may still help for busy mirrors,
but for most of us bandwidth is no  problem. Someone on dialup may
disagree, but how many of those are there these days?

Fred

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Re: [CentOS] http error when updating 7.5 ==> 7.6

2019-03-25 Thread John R. Dennison
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 07:32:33AM -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> 
> This is not the first time we have had issues with drpms in the update tree.
> 
> Would anyone be opposed to taking away deltarpms from the repositories?
> 
> They take up lots of space and they have cause multiple issues in the past.
> 
> Thoughts?

A big +1 to punting.






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Re: [CentOS] http error when updating 7.5 ==> 7.6

2019-03-25 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 3/25/19 6:37 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 3/23/19 9:19 AM, Bez Thomas wrote:
>>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Fred Smith  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Was just doing a (very) belated update on a 7.5 system and ran into
>>> this set of errors:
>>>
>>
>>> Some delta RPMs failed to download or rebuild. Retrying..
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> so, anybody know why we're getting the 416 error from yum but not from
>>> firefox?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Fred,
>>
>> Ran into this yesterday. It seems to be a delta rpm problem.
>> Firefox is working because it’s downloading the whole rpm, avoiding the 
>> issue.
>>
>> setting 
>> deltarpm=0
>> in /etc/yum.conf is an equivalent workaround, and fixed the issue for me. 
>>
>> I’d appreciate someone who knows more about how delta rpms work weighing in 
>> on what the actual issue is.
>>
> 
> Not sure what happened with the drpms, but I will regenerate all the
> polkit drpms with the upcoming ghostscript release later this morning.
> 
> I added drpm tests to our pre-release CI tests as well.
> 

This is not the first time we have had issues with drpms in the update tree.

Would anyone be opposed to taking away deltarpms from the repositories?

They take up lots of space and they have cause multiple issues in the past.

Thoughts?




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Re: [CentOS] http error when updating 7.5 ==> 7.6

2019-03-25 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 3/23/19 9:19 AM, Bez Thomas wrote:
>> On Mar 22, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Fred Smith  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Was just doing a (very) belated update on a 7.5 system and ran into
>> this set of errors:
>>
> 
>> Some delta RPMs failed to download or rebuild. Retrying..
>>
> 
> 
>>
>> so, anybody know why we're getting the 416 error from yum but not from
>> firefox?
>>
> 
> Hi Fred,
> 
> Ran into this yesterday. It seems to be a delta rpm problem.
> Firefox is working because it’s downloading the whole rpm, avoiding the issue.
> 
> setting 
> deltarpm=0
> in /etc/yum.conf is an equivalent workaround, and fixed the issue for me. 
> 
> I’d appreciate someone who knows more about how delta rpms work weighing in 
> on what the actual issue is.
> 

Not sure what happened with the drpms, but I will regenerate all the
polkit drpms with the upcoming ghostscript release later this morning.

I added drpm tests to our pre-release CI tests as well.




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Re: [CentOS] http error when updating 7.5 ==> 7.6

2019-03-23 Thread Bez Thomas
> On Mar 22, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Fred Smith  wrote:
> 
> Was just doing a (very) belated update on a 7.5 system and ran into
> this set of errors:
> 

> Some delta RPMs failed to download or rebuild. Retrying..
> 


> 
> so, anybody know why we're getting the 416 error from yum but not from
> firefox?
> 

Hi Fred,

Ran into this yesterday. It seems to be a delta rpm problem.
Firefox is working because it’s downloading the whole rpm, avoiding the issue.

setting 
deltarpm=0
in /etc/yum.conf is an equivalent workaround, and fixed the issue for me. 

I’d appreciate someone who knows more about how delta rpms work weighing in on 
what the actual issue is.

Bez Thomas
Tech Services, Astronomy/CCAPS
Cornell University
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[CentOS] http error when updating 7.5 ==> 7.6

2019-03-22 Thread Fred Smith
Was just doing a (very) belated update on a 7.5 system and ran into
this set of errors:


 Package Arch  Version Repository  Size

Updating:
 polkit  x86_640.112-18.el7_6.1updates168 k
 polkit-develx86_640.112-18.el7_6.1updates 42 k
 polkit-docs noarch0.112-18.el7_6.1updates251 k

Transaction Summary

Upgrade  3 Packages

Total download size: 461 k
Is this ok [y/d/N]: y
Downloading packages:
Finishing delta rebuilds of 3 package(s) (461 k)
Some delta RPMs failed to download or rebuild. Retrying..
polkit-0.112-18.el7_6.1.x86_64 FAILED  
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/updates/x86_64/Packages/polkit-0.112-18.el7_6.1.x86_64.rpm:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 416 - Requested Range Not Satisfiable
Trying other mirror.
polkit-devel-0.112-18.el7_6.1. FAILED  
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/updates/x86_64/Packages/polkit-devel-0.112-18.el7_6.1.x86_64.rpm:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 416 - Requested Range Not Satisfiable
Trying other mirror.
polkit-docs-0.112-18.el7_6.1.n FAILED  
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/7/updates/x86_64/Packages/polkit-docs-0.112-18.el7_6.1.noarch.rpm:
 [Errno 14] HTTP Error 416 - Requested Range Not Satisfiable
Trying other mirror.


Error downloading packages:
  polkit-0.112-18.el7_6.1.x86_64: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
  polkit-devel-0.112-18.el7_6.1.x86_64: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
  polkit-docs-0.112-18.el7_6.1.noarch: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.



I then browsed to the mirror shown above and downloaded the files with
no trouble. I then did "yum localupdate" for the three downloaded files
and they installed just fine.

so, anybody know why we're getting the 416 error from yum but not from
firefox?

a little searching for that error indicates it is some kind of problem
on the web host, I think. but it's weird.

I don't need help, I'm good, but perhaps someone needs to look at whatever
mis-configuration on the host(s) causes that.

I originally left the repo file alone so it attempted to use the repolist
but every repo failed. I then changed it to use the baseurl but it didn't
help. So whatever the problem is, it isn't with just a single host.

Fred
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