Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-22 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Karanbir Singh wrote: We also need to keep in mind through this conversation that the content on the wiki is licensed under very liberal terms, lets not try and make efforts to wall in edit rights or to contradict the license terms themselves. Attribution-Share-Alike pretty much says that

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
Marcus Moeller wrote: In gerneral I take a look at the original author first, ask him to accept my contribution or to allow me to edit and if he/she is unavailable I am going to contact the one who last edited the page. Works in most cases. That sounds like a reasonable workflow, do we then

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/17/2009 02:05 PM, Mats Karlsson wrote: So could we have two alternative text to cover the topic, who can edit an article? Currently maintained by: name Can only be edited by maintainer. Currently maintained by: CentOS-docs mailing list Can be edited by anyone on the mailinglist. -1

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/18/2009 05:24 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote: Alan, Phil, John, don't listen to him. Stay at the keyboard 24x7 as you always do. OK, you can forget about the mailing lists. BUT, you should remain online and keep helping in the forums. Family or friends? What's that? We devote our lives to

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/18/2009 11:58 AM, Marcus Moeller wrote: As I have mentioned in another thread a while ago, it should be easy to just add a 'Original Author' and 'Last Editor' notes so anyone who is willed to contribute could just get in contact with him/her. You can already read the page changelogs, of

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
JohnS wrote: On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:11 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: Shows up in the Info link on every page. Problem is ... people without edit rights do not see the link. Whos arm and leg can be twisted to correct that to show it? Nobody's, I fear. There was a rather longish discussion

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Mats Karlsson wrote: So could we have two alternative text to cover the topic, who can edit an article? Currently maintained by: name Can only be edited by maintainer. Not really possible, as everyone in EditGroup is allowed to edit every articel (and the plan is to open up the wiki so that

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-20 Thread Phil Schaffner
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 11:37 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote: Mats Karlsson wrote: So could we have two alternative text to cover the topic, who can edit an article? Currently maintained by: name Can only be edited by maintainer. Not really possible, as everyone in EditGroup is allowed

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-18 Thread Phil Schaffner
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 12:58 +0200, Marcus Moeller wrote: In my opinion a policy like this described somewhere is a mistake. I prefer we have macro(s) for this. And if the macro is missing, the wiki provides a default. I differentiate between a policy that implies strict enforcement, and

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-17 Thread Alan Bartlett
Coming a little late to this discussion, take the example of the three kernel related HowTos. Each article begins with a Currently maintained by: AlanBartlett and AkemiYagi line. Akemi I discussed this some time ago and decided to insert those lines for two reasons: (1) to give clear

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-17 Thread Phil Schaffner
Mats Karlsson wrote: So could we have two alternative text to cover the topic, who can edit an article? Currently maintained by: name Can only be edited by maintainer. Currently maintained by: CentOS-docs mailing list Can be edited by anyone on the mailinglist. s/Can/Should/ at least as

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-17 Thread JohnS
On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 13:29 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: Seems obvious to me after all this (and previous) discussion that some more guidance on the Contribute page would help to clarify what is and is not considered acceptable. Such a statement could be arrived at either by consensus

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-17 Thread Phil Schaffner
JohnS wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 13:29 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: Seems obvious to me after all this (and previous) discussion that some more guidance on the Contribute page would help to clarify what is and is not considered acceptable. Such a statement could be arrived at either

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-17 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 17/04/2009, Phil Schaffner philip.r.schaff...@nasa.gov wrote: JohnS wrote: On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 13:29 -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: Seems obvious to me after all this (and previous) discussion that some more guidance on the Contribute page would help to clarify what is and is

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-17 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 8:33 PM, R P Herrold herr...@centos.org wrote: Alan, Phil, John Please step away from the keyboard this weekend.  Work on a stamp collection. exercise, talk without a TV or computer on with members of family or friends. NO, no, no, Russ, please stop giving bad

[CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-16 Thread Phil Schaffner
A question on authorship and attribution policy for the Wiki. I originally credited Alan Bartlett for the page content on HowTos/ConfigureNewVideoCard, but he was not comfortable with that and the reference got removed in the edit process. I generally do not include my name on Wiki pages I

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-16 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 04:40:53PM -0400, Phil Schaffner wrote: A question on authorship and attribution policy for the Wiki. I originally credited Alan Bartlett for the page content on HowTos/ConfigureNewVideoCard, but he was not comfortable with that and the reference got removed in the

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Phil Schaffner p.r.schaff...@ieee.org wrote: A question on authorship and attribution policy for the Wiki.  I originally credited Alan Bartlett for the page content on HowTos/ConfigureNewVideoCard, but he was not comfortable with that and the reference got

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-16 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:21:16PM +0100, Ned Slider wrote: Personally, I would think it preferable that communications be openly directed to this list rather than the original author/maintainer of a given page, although I understand the instinct for a user to contact the perceived

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:21:16PM +0100, Ned Slider wrote: So, what would you suggest then? A link at the beginning of the page, please send comments, corrections to insert this, or possibly a slightly different,

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-16 Thread Ed Heron
Is the ChangeLog, filtered for a specific page, available? Provided notes were made regarding the specific edit (it looks good), that would provide desired information, including original poster and description of relevant changes. The ChangeLog should be adequate from the point of view of the

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-16 Thread Dag Wieers
On Thu, 16 Apr 2009, Scott Robbins wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:21:16PM +0100, Ned Slider wrote: Personally, I would think it preferable that communications be openly directed to this list rather than the original author/maintainer of a given page, although I understand the instinct for

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-16 Thread Phil Schaffner
On Thu, 2009-04-16 at 17:11 -0700, Akemi Yagi wrote: ... Problem is ... people without edit rights do not see the link. OOPS - Forgot that. ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs

Re: [CentOS-docs] Authorship and Attribution

2009-04-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Phil Schaffner p.r.schaff...@ieee.org wrote: Agree that other authors should be able to contribute, particularly if the page is unmaintained.  That raises another point of Wiki etiquette that might be addressed in the Guidelines - what is the proper procedure