Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-06 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 05/01/2009, Dag Wieers d...@centos.org wrote: On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Ned Slider wrote: snip Personally, I'd prefer to see the title of the thread/post followed by the source returned for a search. So when googling best Linux the searcher may get the following results: Is it true

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-06 Thread Dag Wieers
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Alan Bartlett wrote: On 05/01/2009, Dag Wieers d...@centos.org wrote: On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Ned Slider wrote: snip Personally, I'd prefer to see the title of the thread/post followed by the source returned for a search. So when googling best Linux the searcher may get

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-06 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Dag Wieers d...@centos.org wrote: I don't know why everyone seems to think we are going to change *ANYTHING* to the way the forums work. The only thing I asked to consider is changing the page title. Something a forum user would not even notice because that is

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-06 Thread Dag Wieers
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Dag Wieers d...@centos.org wrote: I don't know why everyone seems to think we are going to change *ANYTHING* to the way the forums work. The only thing I asked to consider is changing the page title. Something a forum user

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-06 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 06/01/2009, Dag Wieers d...@centos.org wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Dag Wieers d...@centos.org wrote: I don't know why everyone seems to think we are going to change *ANYTHING* to the way the forums work. The only thing I asked to

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-05 Thread Karanbir Singh
Dag Wieers wrote: Something that is not helping us with Google is the prefix www.centos.org - to every page of the website (including the forums). Its good to see people taking some initiative on the seo side of things, however most of whats in this thread seems to be oriented towards much

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-05 Thread Karanbir Singh
JohnS wrote: One other hinderance is tha MoinMoin uses a Flat File Data Base instead of a RDMS. Which when the site gets really bigger you will begin to notice the filesystem load greatly. as opposed to having a db that thrashes itself ? I fail to see what your point here is. -- Karanbir

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-05 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: Forum moderators would be able to provide more feedback here : how relevant and accurate are most topic's for threads ? If they are bang-on, perhaps it might be a good idea to replace the entire title of the page with

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-05 Thread Ned Slider
Akemi Yagi wrote: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: Forum moderators would be able to provide more feedback here : how relevant and accurate are most topic's for threads ? If they are bang-on, perhaps it might be a good idea to replace the entire

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-05 Thread Dag Wieers
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Karanbir Singh wrote: Dag Wieers wrote: Something that is not helping us with Google is the prefix www.centos.org - to every page of the website (including the forums). Its good to see people taking some initiative on the seo side of things, however most of whats in

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-05 Thread Karanbir Singh
JohnS wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 21:16 +, Karanbir Singh wrote: JohnS: there is no such thing as www.wiki.centos.org - so I am not sure what you are talking about. There's not??? Could have fooled me then! Maybe check out ya WWW and HTTP responses. It's not my problem the server

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-05 Thread Karanbir Singh
Dag Wieers wrote: And the fact that none of the wiki-pages are in the top is another problem. Those pages are definitely more important than most of the search results. The fact that the wiki title is not used is mostly to blame. So I would urge to have those thing fixed asap. have you

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-05 Thread Dag Wieers
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Karanbir Singh wrote: Dag Wieers wrote: And the fact that none of the wiki-pages are in the top is another problem. Those pages are definitely more important than most of the search results. The fact that the wiki title is not used is mostly to blame. So I would urge to

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-04 Thread Marcus Moeller
Von meinem iPhone gesendet Dear David. Dag Wieers napsal(a): Well, I disagree that this is useful for every individual page. The centos.org in the URL as well as in Google search result pretty much proves the point, we don't need it again in the page title (and certainly NOT at the

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread Marcus Moeller
Dear Akemi, www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 5 - Networking Support - Wireless ... 14.7. Establishing a Wireless Connection www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 5 - Networking Support - Intel ... My advise: - Get rid of the www.centos.org - prefix for all pages Not sure how to achieve this,

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread JohnS
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 15:45 +0100, Dag Wieers wrote: Hi, Something that is not helping us with Google is the prefix www.centos.org - to every page of the website (including the forums). It is annoying in the sense that it pushes the important keywords to the end of the title and

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Dag Wieers wrote: www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 5 - Networking Support - Wireless ... 14.7. Establishing a Wireless Connection - Get rid of the www.centos.org - prefix for all pages - Get rid of the Forums - prefix for the forums - Get rid of the Networking Support prefix for

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread Ralph Angenendt
JohnS wrote: Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Google). http://wiki.centos.org/TitleIndex is there. No idea if that is what Google accepts as a sitemap. Also each page upon creation needs a way to

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread JohnS
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Google). http://wiki.centos.org/TitleIndex is there. No idea if that is what Google accepts

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread Dag Wieers
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:45 AM, Dag Wieers d...@wieers.com wrote: www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 5 - Networking Support - Wireless ... 14.7. Establishing a Wireless Connection www.centos.org - Forums - CentOS 5 - Networking Support - Intel ... My

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread Ralph Angenendt
JohnS wrote: On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Google). http://wiki.centos.org/TitleIndex is there. No idea if that is

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread David Hrbáč
Dag Wieers napsal(a): Well, I disagree that this is useful for every individual page. The centos.org in the URL as well as in Google search result pretty much proves the point, we don't need it again in the page title (and certainly NOT at the beginning of the title). Dag's pretty right.

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread Dag Wieers
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Google). http://wiki.centos.org/TitleIndex is there. No idea if that is what Google accepts as a sitemap.

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 01/03/2009 10:17 PM, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Google).

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread JohnS
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 21:17 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Google).

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread JohnS
See my post on that On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 23:34 +0200, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: On 01/03/2009 10:17 PM, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread Dag Wieers
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly help with the google searches (has to be submitted to Google).

Re: [CentOS-docs] Improving the website and forums

2009-01-03 Thread JohnS
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 01:14 +0100, Dag Wieers wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 19:41 +0100, Ralph Angenendt wrote: JohnS wrote: Hey Dag, does the Wiki even have a Site Map? If not that can greatly help with the google searches