Re: [CentOS-docs] wiki content management via automation

2018-02-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 21/02/18 22:30, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
> That's a good question, as we'll also have to migration for moinmoin if
> we can't find a support path to migrate to supported version anyway.
> So first question (already asked on the list) : is there a way to get in
> touch with moin people willing to help/assist us ? (as their upgrade
> tool wasn't working to test migration from 1.6 to 1.7)

it would be good if someone on the docs team ( or docs focused could
take this up, I am far too removed from implementation at this point to
drive that conversation productively ).

Other than that, +1 to engage moin upstream


> And then too : is there a way to consume a kind of API for moin that
> would then meet the "content management via automation" requirement. Or
> do we have to also investigate directly another solution (like
> mediawiki) and so migration ?

does media-wiki have an api ?

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[CentOS-docs] wiki content management via automation

2018-02-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi

the CentOS Cloud images and other things are now built from end to end
automated pipelines, but the wiki content corresponding to them isnt. Is
there something that can be used to do this automation ?

I have done some stuff many many years ago, via directly mangling
content on the wiki objects, but that might not be the best way forward.

thoughts ?


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[CentOS-docs] Splitting the container pipeline page in the wiki

2017-09-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi Bama

since there are other things going on in the container space around
centos, I was thinking maybe we can setup a /Container page, and then
have a /Container/Registry and a /Container/Pipeline page each. the
pipeline page can talk about the service, code and run setup. and the
registry page can talk about howto get content in there, what content is
already there and urls to the user setup and consumer stuff.

would that work for you ?

this would also unblock content coming up like /Container/Docker etc

and the /Container page can perhaps just be an index pointing to the
relevant info.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS and CentOS EDU at Windows Store...

2017-07-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi Markus,

this sort of content would be good to get onto the wiki in the
aims/goals section of the SIG proposal. Let us know if your edit rights
for the page are not working etc

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On 11/07/17 04:29, Markus McLaughlin wrote:
> We need to make CentOS and CentOS EDU available at the Windows Store;
> for those who don't want to dual boot, can use it...
> 
> Reference :
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-linux-is-now-available-for-download-from-the-microsoft-windows-store-516907.shtml
> 
> 
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Markus McLaughlin Intro

2017-07-07 Thread Karanbir Singh

Hi Markus,

Welcome onbard - is you wiki user MarkusMcLaughlin ?

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On 07/07/17 15:32, Markus McLaughlin wrote:
> My name is Markus McLaughlin, I am coming on board the CentOS EDUcation
> SIG Project.  I want to bring my resourcefulness and talents to this
> very ambitious project.  Debian has already made available its own EDU
> distribution.  It's time for CentOS to "step up," and offer its own
> service.  Windows and MACs have dominated
> the education market far too long.  It's time to bring free and open
> source software to those schools and
> students who can't afford to use either of their systems.
> 
> I think there should be two forms of the CentOS EDU distribution: 1. 4GB
> "Core" with the bare essentials, including offline Wikipedia access, and
> a library of free e-textbooks for those who don't have broadband
> internet access.
> 2. 8GB "Everything" with additional software like Audacity, GIMP,
> Blender, Scribus, Inkscape, etc.  CentOS EDU
> should provide a configuration menu of all the different interfaces,
> GNOME, KDE, etc., based on the Anaconda
> installer.  It should also provide Windows compatibility so MS Office
> can be used instead of LibreOffice.
> 
> Another option that Debian EDU probably does not have is, why not have
> CentOS EDU be compatible with the
> Linux layer of Windows 10?  The CORE could be accessed inside Windows 10
> so it would be a "win win."
> 
> I would like to see CentOS EDU paired with the Raspberry Pi Foundation
> as well, presenting it to those who can't afford a full PC.  The Pi
> would make an inexpensive means to support poor students.  For $100.00,
> a Pi with CentOS EDU 32gb microsd card included, would open up a whole
> new world!
> 
> Please consider my ideas!  :D
> 
> Regards,
> Markus McLaughlin
> marknetproductions.com
> 

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Request WIKI for docker / docker swarm on CentOS 7.x

2017-07-06 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/07/17 16:30, -=X.L.O.R.D=- wrote:
> Dear Sir,
> 
> I would like to contribute Rancher / Docker Swarm on CentOS and related
> WIKI.
> 
> Please advise what do I need to for this WIKI. Thank you!
> 
>  
> 
> Xlord
> 

Hi, you will need a real name, full name for the wiki access.

Also, can you share some details on exactly what you intend to post to
the wiki itself ? as in how / what the Rancher context here would be ?


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Re: [CentOS-docs] https://wiki.centos.org/ContainerPipeline edit group

2016-10-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 10/10/16 16:46, Alan Bartlett wrote:

> In turn, I ask where the "more and more people" are actually
> requesting edit access for that page? It certainly is not on this
> mailing list.

so far, its just been the guys who are working on the buildsystem behind
it - a couple of other folks ( eg. from the SIGs ) who have asked I sent
to the list, but going back does not look like anyone actually came through.

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[CentOS-docs] https://wiki.centos.org/ContainerPipeline edit group

2016-10-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi guys,

we've got more and more people who need edit rights to this page, at
https://wiki.centos.org/ContainerPipeline - is it worth doing a
ContainerEngGroup and make that group own this page instead of adding
usernames to the page itself ?



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Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508compliancestatement

2016-09-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
let me chase that up,

I dont really understand what a VPAT might be, looks to be US centric -
but it also looks like it aims to make assertions on and from the CentOS
project side. best to work it via the board first.

Regards

On 22/09/16 22:27, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> I posted on the dev list last October, no feedback.
> 
> How (did not seem to be a high level issue for board concern, it is down at 
> the FAQ level) do I run it by the Board? In other words,
> where do I discuss this?
> 
> I will send the 2 vpats from my .gov account in a moment.
> 
> -Jason
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Karanbir Singh
>> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 17:07
>>
>> Did you work this via the CentOS Board to make sure its ok to post ?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> On 22/09/16 19:44, Jason Pyeron wrote:
>>> I was able to rename my (very old) user to JasonPyeron .
>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: centos-docs-boun...@centos.org
>>>> [mailto:centos-docs-boun...@centos.org 
>>>> <mailto:centos-docs-boun...@centos.org> ] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 14:39
>>>> To: centos-docs@centos.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508
>>>> compliancestatement
>>>>
>>>> Can my jpyeron user be blessed to update the WIKI, so a
>>>> CentOS 6 and CentOS 7 VPAT can be posted?
>>>>
>>>> Recommending under FAQ or AdditionalResources
>>>>
>>>> -Jason
>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jpye...@pdinc.us <mailto:jpye...@pdinc.us> ]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 14:08
>>>>> To: 'centos-de...@centos.org'
>>>>> Subject: VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliance statement
>>>>>
>>>>> I am working on getting Centos 7 approved for use at a
>>>>> federal agency, RHEL is already approved for use in production.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the blockers I hit is, "Does the vendor provide a VPAT?"
>>>>>
>>>>> Does the attached look right? Where should this be posted?
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. where is the git repo for the website, I only see bugs
>>>>> in https://git.centos.org/project/websites 
>>>>> <https://git.centos.org/project/websites>  .
>>>>>
>>>>> -Jason
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Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliancestatement

2016-09-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
Did you work this via the CentOS Board to make sure its ok to post ?

Regards

On 22/09/16 19:44, Jason Pyeron wrote:
> I was able to rename my (very old) user to JasonPyeron .
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: centos-docs-boun...@centos.org 
>> [mailto:centos-docs-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Jason Pyeron
>> Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 14:39
>> To: centos-docs@centos.org
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS-docs] VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 
>> compliancestatement
>>
>> Can my jpyeron user be blessed to update the WIKI, so a 
>> CentOS 6 and CentOS 7 VPAT can be posted?
>>
>> Recommending under FAQ or AdditionalResources
>>
>> -Jason
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jason Pyeron [mailto:jpye...@pdinc.us] 
>>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 14:08
>>> To: 'centos-de...@centos.org'
>>> Subject: VPAT for centos 7 - section 508 compliance statement
>>>
>>> I am working on getting Centos 7 approved for use at a 
>>> federal agency, RHEL is already approved for use in production.
>>>
>>> One of the blockers I hit is, "Does the vendor provide a VPAT?"
>>>
>>> Does the attached look right? Where should this be posted?
>>>
>>> P.S. where is the git repo for the website, I only see bugs 
>>> in https://git.centos.org/project/websites .
>>>
>>> -Jason
>>>
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>>> - Principal Consultant  10 West 24th Street #100-
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Documentation on CBS

2016-07-15 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/07/16 03:03, Karsten Wade wrote:
> Brian & I are doing some work on the SIG Guide this week, we can make
> it an action to have it [[Include()]] the above content in to the SIG
> Guide so that there is one location to reference, update, edit, and
> translate.

The SIGGuide is long over due, lets get that done.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] [DISCUSS] Wiki page for centos atomic registry

2016-07-05 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 21/06/16 23:44, Jason Brooks wrote:
>> I am not decided as to where in the wiki (location) of the proposed page
>> will be, and am there looking out for suggestions.
> 
> We could put it under: https://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/Atomic

Maybe https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos might be a good place, since its
essentially a howto get started with the registry. Would that work for
everyone ?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] [DISCUSS] Wiki page for centos atomic registry

2016-06-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 20/06/16 14:13, Mohammed Ahmed wrote:
>   I think that should be for the container pipeline itself, not atomic
> registry. Correct me if I am wrong.
> Also, I should probably consider requesting write access to the
> container pipeline page as well at
> some point.


yes, I agree. The Atomic registry has nothing to do with the container
pipeline, so the two should not be confused into the same namespace. we
should document howto use the registry in the same way as we do howto's
for apps etc.



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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS-docs Digest, Vol 114, Issue 3

2016-05-23 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 19/05/16 05:46, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
> You should now be able to edit that /Books page with your wiki username
> PacktPublishing.

Surely this is a mistake - we used to need real people's real names for
the wiki ?


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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS-docs Digest, Vol 112, Issue 8

2016-04-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 17/03/16 13:09, Ben Hosmer wrote:
>>Your CentOS Wiki home page [1] was created for you over three years
>>ago (2013-02-26 21:03:39) and you last edited it the next day
>>(2013-02-27 11:19:12).
> 
>>I am unsure as to what you believe you need to do. <Puzzled!>
> 
>>Alan.
> 
> I'm sorry about that, I forgot I had it already!
> 
> I was somewhat confused because despite logging in at
> accounts.centos.org <http://accounts.centos.org> I was presented with
> another login at wiki.centos.org <http://wiki.centos.org>. 

accounts.centos.org is only mapped to cbs.centos.org at this point, so
you still need a login at bugs.centos.org / wiki.centos.org /
ci.centos.org etc, we will gradually roll all the services into one
central auth.

> Additionally, the link to the wiki from accounts.centos.org
> <http://accounts.centos.org> seems to be
> broken: http://wiki.centos.org/wiki/

that should be fixable, maybe Fabian or Brian can comment on that bit

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Re: [CentOS-docs] status of https://wiki.centos.org/Documentation

2016-03-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 22/03/16 10:02, François Cami wrote:
> With that said, provided we find a way to mention how to mention that
> unambiguously, I'm ok with it.

the way to do this is to self host the content, with relevant
disclaimers and an effecient/functional process to edit and remove
content not relevant.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] status of https://wiki.centos.org/Documentation

2016-03-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 22/03/16 07:30, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was having a look at that page, and was wondering what we can do for
> point #3 (Manuals and other documentation)
> As we have no real content for CentOS 6 and 7 , my idea was just to
> explain in one line that (while technically not the CentOS
> documentation) , almost all the points coming from uptream documentation
> ( - except for subscription manager - ) can be applied to CentOS and so
> having link from that section to https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en/
> 
> Ideas, thoughts, comments ?
> 

-1 from me, CentOS scope isnt the same as RHEL ones.

if we cant get the docs and host / adapt to taste, I am ok for us to
move the existing docs into an archive/ area, but retain it on the site,
along with the relevant content redirection as needed, and just drop
having current release docs.

if none is willing to do the work to make centos docs possible, clearly
the community has rejected having these docs in the first place.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] wiki addition for AWS

2016-03-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/03/16 18:46, Warren Turkal wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Karanbir Singh <mail-li...@karan.org
> <mailto:mail-li...@karan.org>> wrote:
> 
> I'm also working on making the CentOS images available outside of the
> Market Place shortly, so details for that ( including regions ) will
> likely end up in the same page.
> 
> 
> Since you mentioned getting info about AMI ids, do you know anything
> about the following?
> 
> Why do the AMIs listed in the region specific images for CentOS7 in
> eu-central-1 not exist in the following query:
> $ aws --region eu-central-1 ec2 describe-images --owners aws-marketplace
> --filters Name=product-code,Values=aw0evgkw8e5c1q413zgy5pjce --query
> 'Images[*].ImageId'
> ami-7cc4f661ami-9bf712f4ami-e68f82fb
> 
> In fact, I cant even find them with  the following queries:
> $ aws --region eu-central-1 ec2 describe-images --image-ids ami-08222e15
> # CentOS7
> $ aws --region eu-central-1 ec2 describe-images --image-ids ami-0e222e13
> # CentOS6
> 
> Are those image private or just gone?
> 
> If those images aren't correct anymore, we should just delete that whole
> section from the wiki.

let me check with the AMP folks - they manage the actual backing image
from their end.

would be nice if there was a way to querry the status, and print that
directly in the wiki



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Re: [CentOS-docs] Make Atomic Host Downloads more Visible

2016-01-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
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On 29/12/15 08:28, Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote:
> I believe we should list the Atomic Host downloads more clearly on
> these pages:
> 
> https://wiki.centos.org/Download https://www.centos.org/download/
> 
> I can make the edits if given permission or I am happy to just see
> them done.
> 

There is no plan for having SIG content on www.centos.org - so we wont
be listing them there, but there were conversations on how best to
have SIG downloads more visible on the wiki Download page ( which is
the main download destination anyway ).

It might be worth restarting that conversation.

Atomic wasent listed there in the past, since we didnt have a stable
GA release as such.


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[CentOS-docs] the seven.c.o blog and twitter

2015-07-29 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi,

wondering if we should setup a twitter account for seven.centos.org and
have it linked into the blog code to auto tweet on new posts ? There is
a lot of great content on the blog now, and I suspect its not getting a
lot of air time.

Could we do something similar for the centos facebook groups as well ?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to the CentOS wiki

2015-07-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 10/07/15 00:23, Daniel Farrell wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I'd like to contribute to the CentOS wiki. Per these docs[0], I
 should email this list with the following information.
 
 Username: DanielFarrell
 Contribution subject: Update CBS Koji Poodle patch docs
 Contribution location: http://goo.gl/7Oe9QO (CBS HOWTO#Quickstart)

for the sake of clarity, this is
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/CommunityBuildSystem

 
 I'd like to make the docs related to patching Koji for the Poodle
 exploit[1] generally more clear. For example, it's worth noting the
 commit (5b5b7d95) that will need to be included in a release for
 the patch step to become unnecessary. I'd also note that that 1.9.0
 (the latest release, March 2014) doesn't include the fix. Finally, I'd
 document how to build a patched version of Koji.
 
 Per the suggestion in [0], I'd also like to request for a member of
 the admin group to create my homepage[2].
 
 [0]: http://goo.gl/dzq0yU (CentOS wiki contribution docs)
 [1]: http://goo.gl/7Oe9QO (Contribution location, CBS HOWTO#Quickstart)
 [2]: http://wiki.centos.org/DanielFarrell
 

can we please not use these short urls, since now there is no way to map
really what you are doing :)

but I've setup acl for you to edit the cbs page, let me know if you run
into any issues.

once you have a few edits in, we can set you up with wider access to the
rest of the wiki!

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[CentOS-docs] notify emails from wiki.centos.org

2015-07-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi folks,

making a few edits i just noticed that a lot of emails get sent out on
every edit on wiki.c.o - this isnt a problem as such, but i wonder if
its better for more people to use an rss feed ?

alternatively, do we need/want a wiki-commits list that gets all of
these, and people can just subscribe to that list ?

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[CentOS-docs] Added Brian as new Contributor to seven.c.o

2015-06-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi,

I've added Brian Exelbierd as Contributor on seven.centos.org blog - he
wants to start by posting on the work he's done for the CentOS Calendar.

- KB

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Container Pipeline placeholder

2015-05-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 05/14/2015 03:54 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:35 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@redhat.com wrote:
 On 05/12/2015 06:13 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Hi,

 I've created http://wiki.centos.org/ContainerPipleline as a placeholder
 to start populating about the pipeline. Although this will run from
 ci.centos.org hosted infra ( http://wiki.centos.org/QaWiki/CI ) - and it
 will form a sort of ecocystem test + release process, I think it
 deserves scope beyond being just under the CI namespace.

 Pipleline? :-)

 Should that be:

 http://wiki.centos.org/ContainerPipeline

 ?
 
 Funny that on one noticed. :)
 
 http://wiki.centos.org/ContainerPipeline?action=info

someone did..!

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[CentOS-docs] Container Pipeline placeholder

2015-05-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi,

I've created http://wiki.centos.org/ContainerPipleline as a placeholder
to start populating about the pipeline. Although this will run from
ci.centos.org hosted infra ( http://wiki.centos.org/QaWiki/CI ) - and it
will form a sort of ecocystem test + release process, I think it
deserves scope beyond being just under the CI namespace.

- KB

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Re: [CentOS-docs] docs update suggestions for docker and related packages

2015-02-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 02/02/2015 04:21 PM, Lokesh Mandvekar wrote:
 What's the best place to update the docs/howto for docker and related
 packages on centos?
 
 Could I add to http://wiki.centos.org/Cloud/Docker?highlight=(docker) or
 is this for the rhel-recompiled docker? Also, what about docker-registry?
 Does that need a new page?

I am not sure if Docker needs to be in /Cloud - maybe /Containers might
be a better place. Either that, or under the HowTos maybe ?


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Pull Request wiki.c.o/AdditionalResources/Repositories

2015-01-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 14/01/15 23:38, PatrickD Garvey wrote:

 Please help us (me, especially) understand what we may be doing to the
 detriment of your use of CentOS and thereby avoid that negative
 result.

Lets flip this around - just going by your comments in the last few
days, it seems to me that you dont actually use CentOS Linux at all and
are largely unaware of how this ecosystem works.

so, from your point of view, as a user - what is it that you use CentOS
and what sort of roles do you deploy it in ?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Pull Request wiki.c.o/AdditionalResources/Repositories

2015-01-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 14/01/15 23:51, Trevor Hemsley wrote:

 Now as far as the term Community Approved goes: I think it's fairly
 accurate and I'm not sure what the objection to it was. We have to have
 a way to say These repos are ok and these suck and these suck worse
 than that. The way the page reads at the moment seems to me to strike a
 good balance between providing useful information and avoiding libel!
 

Being able to quantify what good-behaviour might be ( eg. multilib lines
up etc ) not only allows us to measure how good / bad a repo is, it also
gives the other repos a yardstick to work through in order to become good.

I realise that a good repo will do things that are hard to measure  eg.
delta between upstream release of a patch and when it shows up in repo;
but a large bulk of things we should be able to automate I feel.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Pull Request wiki.c.o/AdditionalResources/Repositories

2015-01-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/09/2015 11:49 PM, Tom Sorensen wrote:
 KB -- I made those changes several months ago (Sep/Oct I believe), with
 discussion in IRC. This was after a spate of people in the main channel
 having issues with Atomic (there's a name that's going to end up causing
 problems...) and the continued use of RPMForge/RepoForge, with no
 indication that they're really really bad. As well as the recognition of
 the reality that there are a very few repos that are frequently
 recommended (and, in the case of EPEL, now easily enabled in CentOS).

I think we should do a bit of work and find a tangiable set of standards
that a repo needs to meet in order to be 'endorsed' or rated at a
certain level. Because at the moment it does seem to add value to a repo
or two over others, based on personal opinion.

I am willing to write code to do this validation, but were going to need
a set of good rules to implement.

regards and thanks

- KB

 
 I don't believe I discussed it on this list, which is entirely my fault,
 but there were some revisions afterwards by others in the community to
 help do cleanup as well.
 
 On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org
 mailto:mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 
 On 01/05/2015 04:34 PM, PatrickD Garvey wrote:
  Could someone please replace the contents of
  http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories
  with the contents of
  http://wiki.centos.org/PatrickDGarvey/AdditionalResources/Repositories ?
 
 
 
 I dont understand the concept of community approved. What does that
 mean ?
 
 
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Access request to Virt SIG wiki

2015-01-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/13/2015 04:08 PM, Sandro Bonazzola wrote:
 Hi,
 I'm Sandro Bonazzola, member of the Virt SIG for oVirt Project.
 I would like to get access and contribute to 
 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/oVirt
 My wiki account is SandroBonazzola

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Wiki navibar Newsletter reference

2015-01-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/12/2015 06:21 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
 On 12/01/15 02:25, PatrickD Garvey wrote:
 Every wiki page contains a link to 
 http://wiki.centos.org/Newsletter/Latest in the navibar at the
 top and bottom of the page. Currently that redirects to 
 http://wiki.centos.org/Newsletter/1005 which is the Newsletter 
 dated 10 July 2010, hardly current news.
 
 Perhaps someone can suggest a better communication vehicle to 
 display when the Newsletter link is selected? And change
 whatever master wiki page implements the link?
 
 I was thinking about that Newsletter link last week too, and I
 think we have two choices : * delete the link in the master page
 (easier/faster) * try to resurrect that Newsletter (harder)
 

I believe Karsten is looking to start a new newsletter - that might be
able to leverage this ?

Karsten ?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Pull Request wiki.c.o/AdditionalResources/Repositories

2015-01-09 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/05/2015 04:34 PM, PatrickD Garvey wrote:
 Could someone please replace the contents of
 http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories
 with the contents of
 http://wiki.centos.org/PatrickDGarvey/AdditionalResources/Repositories ?
 


I dont understand the concept of community approved. What does that mean ?


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[CentOS-docs] the install url on wiki.centos.org homepage

2015-01-06 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi,

The install link on the wiki.centos.org homepage could potentially use
some attention.

Maybe just lose it and send similar attention to the /Documenation page
instead ?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS wiki Homepage editing permission request

2014-12-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 26/11/14 23:25, centos-docs.neophyte_...@ordinaryamerican.net wrote:
 Thank you.
 
 Good bye.
 

We made a decision to require people to contribute content using
FirstnameLastname and asked people to be truthful about it since we take
content on wiki.centos.org very seriously, and thought that having a
clear community of people was more important than having text from
arbitary strings: and I still believe that its a ar better place to be
today.

If your choice in the matter is to stick with the arbitary string of
text, there are lots of places on/around the internet where you can
still contribute content and I encourage you to do so.

regards and thanks for stopping by

- KB

PS: you can still contribute via this list, make such a huge impact that
this entire equation needs reconsidering.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] centos.org List of Mirrors Javascript

2014-12-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 27/11/14 13:57, Petr Spacek wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I would like to propose a small change to
 http://centos.org/download/mirrors/
 
 Currently the mirror list is generated using Javascript but there is neither
 non-Javascript version of the list nor fallback a message for users without
 Javascript.
 
 It would be great to have non-Javascript version but at least a fallback
 message you need Javascript would greatly improve the user experience.
 
 Without Javascript, the page looks like this:
 
 List of CentOS Mirrors
 
 CentOS welcomes new mirror sites. If you are considering setting up a public
 mirror site for CentOS, please follow the mirror guidelines to make sure that
 your mirror is consistent with the other mirror sites.
 
 
 ... and that is it. There is no indication that the list of mirrors cannot be
 loaded because of missing Javascript. This greatly confused me when browsing
 with disabled Javascript.
 
 Have a nice day!
 

cc: Jim.

- KB

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[CentOS-docs] embedding video into the wiki pages

2014-09-23 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi guys

Ive got the videos from Paris Dojo now processed up and ready to go -
the plan is to get them into the CentOSProject youtube channel.

however, i was wondering if there is a way to embedd the video into the
wiki pages as well. We can then have the videos for all the sessions (
or the ones we managed to record proper ) ready to view right in place

that also means we end up promoting the wiki rather than the youtube
channel, which might be good


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Please grant edit permission to create HomePage

2014-09-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/11/2014 01:02 PM, Dominic Geevarghese wrote:
 
 Dear CentOS Doc,
 
 We are planning to organize CentOS Dojo at Bangalore, India -
 http://wiki.centos.org/Events/Dojo/Bangalore2014 - in the month of Nov.
 I request you to grant `edit` permission to update my homepage -
 http://wiki.centos.org/DominicGeevarghese - for further followup with
 speakers/presenters.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Cheers,
 

apologies that this took a bit of time, but it should be all setup -
please let me know if you still run into issues with either the dojo
page or your homepage

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Suggested additions to the wiki on the V6 to V7 upgrade page

2014-09-08 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 09/08/2014 01:16 PM, Jim Perrin wrote:
 
 
 On 09/06/2014 02:54 AM, Bert wrote:
 Hi

 I've reviewed and am performing some tests for the V6 to V7 preupgrade
 assistant.  I have some suggestions for the wiki page.

 I have started a google doc with some suggested additions. They will most
 likely be added to as I discuss stuff with the dev mailing list.
 Whoever is responsible for maintaining the upgrade guide page on the wiki,
 could you give me some feedback please.

 Here's a shared doc link.  Can copy/paste if Google Docs is too problematic.

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YMmrhmT6NR2naBnAmR5B6a8Ay8Xv9-0ORp7m-nt8QPw/edit?usp=sharing
 
 
 A cursory check shows these to be reasonably sane (except for the pipes
 into 'more' :-P )
 
 Anyone have objections to adding Bert for the contribution on this page?
 

go for it

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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS-docs Digest, Vol 92, Issue 5

2014-07-26 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/26/2014 10:03 PM, 666threesixes666 wrote:
 I had a chat with DRBD/linbit, and gave reference to my extensive gentoo
 documentation.  I was hired,  given documents to review.  I intend to
 document, and detail install procedures, configuration file location,
 necessary configurations, etc.  Including but not limited to drbd,
 pacemaker, corosync, heartbeat, and clustering file systems.  They said
 centos is the primary distribution supported so as I go through their
 systems, and generate notes for repeatability, I would prefer to publish
 via wiki, and cross reference links to official documentation upstream. 
 Would not a bot suffice?  -threesixes

sounds great. We try and implement a FirstnameLastname policy on the
wiki, if you setup a username with that format and using your real name,
we can get you setup with an edit area and expand as content grows;

w.r.t the cross references, ideally content on the wiki would be
complete in itself. Things like 'for more info look at : url' likely
works, but the page content should itself be complete.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Remove cancelled timeslots from Past Office Hours section on OfficeHours page

2014-02-07 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 02/07/2014 01:29 AM, Timothy Lee wrote:
 Dear all,
 
 In order to reduce clutter, may I suggest that cancelled timeslots be 
 removed from the Past Office Hours section of the OfficeHours wiki page?

please go ahead and edit it out.

 
 Also, I noticed that the URL for 20th Jan 2014 event is missing.
 

I can check that in a bit, if we had a session, we should have it
listed. The youtube channel should have evidence.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Request for access to wiki

2014-01-26 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/26/2014 04:19 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 Would it be plausible to set up a Wiki management group that
 consists of CentOS admins and contributors? I'd like to use the CentOS
 forums as an example. The new site now requires that every new user's
 post be approved by a moderator. New posts come in 24/7 but, with
 multiple [*ahem* diligent] moderators around the globe, most of them
 get taken care of without much delay.

Isnt the Editorial Group meant to address this specifically ?


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Request for access to wiki

2014-01-26 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/26/2014 08:44 PM, Alan Bartlett wrote:
 Isnt the Editorial Group meant to address this specifically ?

 In theory, yes.
 
 In practice we can't -- due to the problem of lack of privilege for
 editing ACL lines.
 

moin has cascading acl's - so we could have a setup where people with
aCL's on a page are able to add more acl's to that page itself and
sub-pages; Given enough people subscribed to all content changes ( the
editgroup ? ) that might be an easier way to solve the same problem (
and perhaps more predictable ).

- KB

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Request for access to wiki

2014-01-23 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/23/2014 06:35 PM, David Nalley wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 I'd like to request access to the CentOS wiki for the purpose of
 adding CloudStack-related CentOS documentation.
 

Done, you should have edit rights to your homepage at /DavidNalley and
to the CloudStack rsource page at /Cloud/CloudStack

I've also added you to the Cloud Instance SIG page at :
http://wiki.centos.org/SpecialInterestGroup/CloudInstance

As we get the CloudInfra SIG bootstrapped, we can setup a CloudGroup and
just share a single ACL across all the Cloud specific areas.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Request for access to wiki

2014-01-23 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/23/2014 08:41 PM, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
 Karsten Wade kw...@redhat.com wrote:
 
 I'd also think is a contributor in another SIG to possibly be good
 enough, too. A contributor is someone who is doing work that is being
 checked and approved by a committer. I would think the barrier to
 being able to write to the wiki should be lower than for code. But we
 do want to have standards.
 
 What's all this about SIGs, contributors, and committers? The CentOS
 Wiki didn't use to work that way.

The contribution policy is defined up here :
http://wiki.centos.org/Contribute#head-42b3d8e26400a106851a61aebe5c2cca54dd79e5
its not changing.

If it changes, the reasons and what is changing will be discussed here
to make sure its in line with what the existing contributors expect!

Opening up the wiki to a wider audience has always been an aim, but key
to being able to do that rests in a technically competent editorial
group and a greylisting capable content pipeline.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Intro and request to edit

2014-01-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 01/10/2014 04:44 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
 You are going to need an account on the Wiki to get started though :)
 
 I'm sorry,I meant to say ... I'm RichBowen on the wiki.
 

You shoud be all set to edit the /Cloud/OpenStack page and your home
page at wiki.centos.org/RichBowen

For the openstack page, please mark it as a 'in progress' page for the
time being.

For the images list, we can use something similar to what is there now
for the OpenNebula page, but with more openstack specific images ( i.e
with cloud-init perhaps ).

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Intro and request to edit

2014-01-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hey Rich

On 01/10/2014 03:40 PM, Rich Bowen wrote:
 I'd like to request edit privs on the CentOS wiki. In particular, I
 wanted to make edits to the page http://wiki.centos.org/Cloud which
 mentioned OpenNebula but not OpenStack, CloudStack, or Eucalyptus. I was
 also hoping to add some helpful links there to cloud images for AWS and
 so on.

Sounds good - maybe lets start with an OpenStack page under the Private
Clouds setup ? I have some images in the prod stage as well,
specifically built for OpenStack - we can list and release those as well.

You are going to need an account on the Wiki to get started though :)

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Microsoft likes CentOS's wiki

2013-05-23 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 05/23/2013 10:07 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 Microsoft liked my How-To for Skype so much it copied part of it on its 
 own page 
 (https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12120/getting-started-with-skype-
 for-linux?intcmp=blogs-_-generic-click-_-skype-for-linux-4-2#2.5)


Just to close the loop - we did some digging around offline and agreed
that this was mostly ok, for now.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Request to grant me Wiki edit rights

2013-05-17 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hey,

On 05/17/2013 04:47 AM, Guest, Simon wrote:
 I would like to contribute to the CentOS Wiki page 
 http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories

Why dont you go ahead and send in the snippet you want added in and
someone from the EditGroup will help you get that setup.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] usb headphones.

2013-03-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
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On 03/02/2013 07:53 PM, Ahmed Hassan wrote:
 Hello:
 
 There is a bug in PulseAudio that does not allow automatic switch 
 between computer speaker, and usb headphones.
 
 I would like to add a page to explain how to get around it. I
 searched online, and almost all of the posts are missing a lot of
 information.
 

That would be great, why dont you go ahead and setup an account on the
wiki ( remember to use FirstnameLastname ) and post that here, we can
get the acls' setup from there

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Write access for wiki howto Nested virtualization on CentOS 6

2013-02-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 02/16/2013 09:07 PM, Mark Smulders wrote:
 Dear admins,
 
 My centos wiki username: MarkSmulders
 
 Proposed subject: Nested virtualization on CentOS 6
 
 Proposed location: under Howto  Virtualization

setup here: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/NestedVirt let me know if you
run into any issues


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[CentOS-docs] install option on wiki homepage

2012-11-03 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi,

The install option on the wiki homepage looks a bit odd, is it really
meant to point at the generic docs landing page for CentOS-5 ?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Nagios

2012-09-03 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/30/2012 04:58 PM, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
   I would like to help the documentation project by editing/adding
 to http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Nagios. Hopefully that means I can
 have a development area I can do my stuff before it becomes approved
 and goes into production. =)

I've setup a homepage at : http://wiki.centos.org/MauricioTavares you
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Link change request

2012-09-03 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/30/2012 11:04 AM, Timothy Lee wrote:
 I don't know if my request is possible or not,and I will continue my
 contribution if my request is declined.
 The zh convention is used by moinmoin for Simplified Chinese, I believe.


that is my understanding as well, the default moin hander uses 'zh' -
however, the best thing to do for this would be to stick with whatever
the iso convention for the language definition is : a brief look on
wikipedia seems to indicate 'zh' would be right, but wikipedia is no
real source of truth. The Chinese language specific pages on the iso
site seem to be in Chinese itself!

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Skype's no-redistribution policy

2012-06-23 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi,

On 06/23/2012 02:36 AM, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
 However, Microsoft claims to prohibit redistribution of Skype 
 (http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/legal/terms/tou/ , subsection 4.2).

Is this different from their previous policy ?


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Re: [CentOS-docs] http://www.centos.org/docs

2012-04-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/22/2012 12:38 AM, Ed Heron wrote:
   Is it possible to export a set of pages from the wiki into a pdf or
 e-pub format?

yes, that should be possible - but would need a bit of coding around it.
I am happy to investigate.

the good thing about moin is that each page can be loaded into pyhon as
an object, and then rendered in various formats. So that might be one
route to take. Alternatively the text content is also available in raw
format, so that might work too.

   Having the wiki and docs go to my kindle when they are changed would
 be pretty cool.

Can get noisy though.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] http://www.centos.org/docs

2012-04-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/20/2012 06:44 PM, Crunch wrote:
 1) Why if the original document was licensed with an open commons 
 license is the document being relicensed as an open publication license.

they were not open commons originally, and i guess we just need to
update things at our end to get in line ( and update the docs as well )

 2) Why does the foot note say that you can't modify the document? open 
 commons states that you can do anything you like to the document so 
 long as it retains a reference to the original document and licensor.

same as above..


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Re: [CentOS-docs] http://www.centos.org/docs

2012-04-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/20/2012 10:24 PM, Crunch wrote:
 I thought that might be. Thanks for clearing that up. The other 
 possibility was that a new license included some extra constraints but 
 I wasn't to sure if that was allowed. Instead of trying to find the 
 answer in the license itself, I thought it would be simpler to ask, and 
 it was.

the biggest constrain from our perspective is that those docs are for
RHEL not CentOS. And we dont want the messaging to be 'CentOS is RHEL,
but free'. As Ed pointed out somethings are different in the way we do
mirrors and installer etc, support options are different and the way
some of the code works in the distro is different as well. So while its
ok to say that CentOS should work like whats in the doc, we need enough
adaption to make it clear were not saying CentOS == RHEL.

 This is true and I considered it but I also thought that people who use 
 CentOS would probably have a good idea about what it's history is and 
 where to go to find that information if they wanted it. I haven't been 
 around the lists for too long but I wouldn't suspect that there be a 
 great demand for CentOS documentation specifically. I have never heard 
 anyone ask for where they can find the CentOS documentation because they 
 usually know where  to find it.

the fact that www.centos.org/docs isnt updated is something that comes
up a few times a day everyday, in various forums and venues. it would
really be a good problem to have squared away.

Also, what you are saying has been traditionally true - CentOS users
were mostly people who knew the equation; had done their due diligence
and then made a choice to go with CentOS - over the years thats changed
quite a lot to now put us in a state where we have large numbers of
people who have never used Linux before, getting to grips with CentOS.
I'd say about 25 to 40% of our userbase at this point are the non-expert
linux users. in 2008 I would have said that the number was closer to 10%.

I agree that modifying and subsequently maintaining the manuals is a
 rather large project.  That isn't to say I'm advocating either for or
 against.

But, most of it can be automated isnt it ? and the docs are only ever
updated once every 6 to 8 months. Its more of a case of someone taking
the task up, and spending the day or two needed to get to grips with
whats involved and doing 1 doc. We can then scale up the effort from
there. Breaking inertia is key.

 I am of the understanding that CentOS exists only to distribute a freely 
 available version of upstream. In that sense, it is not a full on 
 distribution that needs or wants to go that far.

Yes and No, There are two different things here. The CentOS Linux
Distribution, and the CentOS Project. The distro aims are in line with
what you mentioned, the Project should and could do a lot more.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] http://www.centos.org/docs

2012-04-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/21/2012 10:52 PM, Paul R. (Crunch) wrote:
 I do apologize but something occurred to me and I have deleted the file 
 from the share. The document breaks the license agreement in its current 
 form so distributing it is probably not a good idea. What should we do? 
 Send it to one person? I think I'll fix the bits that aren't right and 
 put it back later. Will let you know.

I'll setup a resource in .centos.org space that allows us ( and whoever
wants to join the effort ) the ability to collaborate and share files.
details in personal email, early on Monday morning

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Re: [CentOS-docs] http://www.centos.org/docs

2012-04-06 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi,

On 04/06/2012 09:04 PM, Crunch wrote:
 For starters, I propose replacing all occurrences of upstream's name and 
 replace all the upstream logos with CentOS ones. Somewhere near the end 
 of the document include the link to the original document.

Do we need to do that ? Can we reduce the work a bit by saying :
Here are the upstream docs, we build from the same sources and aim to
deliver the same functionality so things should apply the same to our
linux distro as well?'. And add a note to this effect on the bottom of
every page ( and maybe put in the CentOS Blue banner to the top ).

 I think leave the  ssh for now, I don't see the need. At most an ftp 
 account with apache pointing at the directory, so that people can get to 
 files easy enough. If it's good with you.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] http://www.centos.org/docs

2012-04-05 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/04/2012 07:53 PM, Paul (Crunch) wrote:
 Hi,
 Why does http://www.centos.org/docs not  point to say this for example:
 
 http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/index.html
 
 The latter is more comprehensive. The links that 
 http://www.centos.org/docs  contains all have upstream labels on the 
 reading material, so I'm guessing the trademark boundries are not being 
 crossed.

docs is an interesting subject.

Docs we host, cant imply that the CentOS distro is the same as RHEL in
everyway. We can however say that its built from the same sources and
*should* be similar enough that all docs can apply.

Its a case of someone putting in a bit of time, downloading the docs for
EL6 from redhat.com - sanitising them, making sure the images and all TM
objects are handled correctly, the right disclaimer is added to the
footer of the pages, and we can host that on www.centos.org/docs

Looks like you quite nicely found yourself a niche issue that is waiting
for a solution, and once solved can be a nice contribution as well.

If you need resources, on the machine side of things - just say so, and
I can get something setup. Could you also send through two more things :

1) an intro about yourself, a brief snippet on history and what you are
doing with CentOS : send that to this list


2) send me an ssh pub key to use for machine access: send that to only
to one of us on the infra team, not to the list :) Although, its the pub
component.. so putting that on the list should not normally be an issue.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Arabic Wiki pages, again

2012-04-02 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/01/2012 08:14 AM, Steve-Mustafa Ismail wrote:
 Could I please, pretty please, with whipped cream and a cherry on top,
 be given the privilege to alter the most exalted and sublime of pages,
 the Arabic wiki?  :)

how about a reply to my last email ?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Arabic Wiki - resend because of bounce back

2012-03-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi,

Doing a language port needs a bit more effort, you are certainly not
being ignored.

What would help is if we could get some more people involved, people who
have been seen in the centos ecosystem in the past, and have some level
of trust associated. Is that possible ?

fwiw, I'm hoping to get the ID and AR efforts into sync and get things
setup for both at the same time.

- KB


On 03/28/2012 08:01 AM, Steve-Mustafa Ismail wrote:
 Is anyone getting this? Have I been ignored? Am I forever alone?
 
 On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:02 AM, Steve-Mustafa Ismail
 m.i.must...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi, my name is Steve Mustafa, my username is SteveMustafa and I'd like
 the privilege to edit and translate the wiki into Arabic,
 http://wiki.centos.org/ar (does not exist).

 So I'm asking for the privilege to create and edit these pages as well
 as for the creation of a new RTL template for RTL languages including
 Arabic, Hebrew, Persian and Urdu.

 (like the subject says, this is a resend because I received a bounce
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Re: [CentOS-docs] edit permissions on personal page

2012-03-25 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 03/23/2012 07:37 PM, Christoph Galuschka wrote:
 Hi,
 
 could you guys please grant me edit permissions on my personal page 
 wiki.centos.org/christophgaluschka
 

As discussed on irc earlier in the day today, lets try and resolve the
issue in a slightly different way.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Arabic Wiki

2012-03-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 03/14/2012 05:12 PM, Steve-Mustafa Ismail wrote:
 Hi guys,
 
 I'm a MAJOR fan of CentOS and its proven itself a lifesaver many a time
 in my professional and personal lives.

good to hear!

 I was hoping to help out by contributing to the wiki by translating as
 much as is possible of the wiki into Arabic.  The thing is, the wiki is

excellent place to start from.

 split into several ISO based country codes and there are 22 countries
 where Arabic is the national language, do I pick one in specific or is
 there some way, that I am certainly not aware of, where we can lump them
 all into one?  I'd hazard the same thing applies for Spanish (Latin
 countries and Spain) amongst other languages that abound this rapidly
 browning Earth.

The wiki and the region sub-sites are meant to be split based on
language rather than region (eg. JA for Japanese rather than JP for
Japan ); so in this case the ISO636-1 code for Arabic is 'ar' which
would then apply to all Arabic content. If there are region specific
differences ( eg. Chinese traditional and simplified ), then we can do
an ar_regioncode section.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Indonesian Translation

2012-02-23 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi

On 02/20/2012 09:48 PM, Muhammad Panji wrote:
 Sorry, I missed the chat. Is the chat log available? how do we plan to
 move with the translation process? thank you.

We decided to setup a language specific mailing list and to bring
together a few people who are interested in doing this. That is still
the plan, but we've all got quite busy with 5.8, so lets wait for that
to get released and we can get the mailing list setup at
http://lists.centos.org and take it from there.

Getting together a peer group at the very start can be quite valuable to
ensure the effort is not wasted and can be sustained longer term as well.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Indonesian Translation

2012-02-20 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi guys,

On 02/20/2012 09:11 AM, Muhammad Panji wrote:
 Karanbir already contacted me and we already discuss about centos
 community in Indonesia. Right now there are Hendrawan and Rizky who
 ready to help with Indonesian translation. So, how can we start getting
 permission to edit wiki? thank you.
 Regards,

on irc, we had agreed to have a chat in #centos-devel at 16:00 UTC (
thats just over 2 hrs from now ), can we still do that ?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] wiki request

2012-02-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 02/10/2012 06:36 PM, Aaron Anderson wrote:
 Probably best if I started out with a complete OpenVPN tutorial. I
 also have good information about font rendering.

ok, I've created: http://wiki.centos.org/AaronAnderson/OpenVPN under
your homepage at http://wiki.centos.org/AaronAnderson ( you should have
edit rights to both places ).

Also, noticed that Ed had a OpenVPN page that seems to have started off,
but been abandoned - Ed, can you confirm ? if so, please delete that
page or mark it All -read, so it does not cause search result mixup.
Ref: http://wiki.centos.org/EdHeron/OpenVPN

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Re: [CentOS-docs] wiki request

2012-02-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 02/14/2012 04:26 PM, Ed Heron wrote:
   Aaron, does your process differ from what's included, so far, in my
 document?
 
   Karanbir, let me know if I've marked it appropriately to prevent
 search engines from finding it.
 

if you are working on it - dont worry, once a final version gets moved
into the howto's area - we can just setup redirects from this page. till
such time just add a draft tag to the top of the page..

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Re: [CentOS-docs] wiki request

2012-02-10 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi Aaron,

Welcome aboard,

On 02/10/2012 03:51 AM, Aaron Anderson wrote:
 I want to create wiki pages for community use with instructions on how
 to do common post-install tasks such as Configuring a multi-client
 OpenVPN server, or adjusting fonts, or installing LAMP, or replacing
 apache with lighttpd. All things I have documented on a personal
 wiki... It's time to share.

pick one, lets use that as a gatway - and then expand to cover more far
reaching +w perms. Whats the one thing you care about the most, and has
no content in the wiki at the moment ?

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[CentOS-docs] Fwd: Typo in the FAQ at http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS6, /etc/sysconfig/nertwork-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 should be /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

2012-01-19 Thread Karanbir Singh


 Original Message 
Subject: Typo in the FAQ at http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS6,
/etc/sysconfig/nertwork-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 should be
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 15:31:08 +0100
From: Maximilian Heise maximilian.he...@gmx.net
To: webmas...@centos.org


Hello,

I think there is a typo in the faq at http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/CentOS6

Under 2. Why does my Ethernet not work unless I log in and explicitly
enable it?

There is a sentence If you are not using NetworkManager the same result
can be obtained by editing the configuration file for the network
interface ( normally /etc/sysconfig/nertwork-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 ) and
toggling ONBOOT=no to ONBOOT=yes.

The filename given there
/etc/sysconfig/nertwork-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
is wrong, it should be
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0

or /etc/sysconfig/nerdwork-scripts/ifcfg-eth0, if you feel poetic ;)

BR
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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS 6 (and 5.6) doc on http://www.centos.org/docs

2011-07-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/11/2011 07:29 PM, Ed Heron wrote:

That sounded like a vote for maintaining CentOS versions of the
 docs...


yes please, we should atleast have something there that clearly states 
stuff that is not going to work on/for centos, like their management 
interface and their mentions of bugzilla.r.c as being the place to 
report bugs etc.

depending on how their img src are done, we might need to rewrite 
those urls, and i seem to remember their page-up and page-down markup 
needed some moding way back when we did the c5.0 docs.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS 6 (and 5.6) doc on http://www.centos.org/docs

2011-07-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/09/2011 04:13 PM, Fabian Arrotin wrote:
 It is my impression that we could and should 'adapt' the documentation
 by removing the upstream provider logos and other marks (as applicable)
 and mark the documentation as CentOS documentation.  Obviously,
 including references to the original document.  This would give the
 CentOS project the ability to edit out the aspects that are specific to
 the upstream product, such as the contract number during install.

 ok, submit a patch / script to do that :-)


depending on how much of it can be automated, that would be idea - 
otherwise we can import the stuff into a git repo and use that as a base 
to work from.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/03/2011 02:31 AM, Jim Woods wrote:
 I emailed you sometime last week off-list. I re-read the website
 version 2, next steps thread, tried to write an email in response,
 realized it was terribly too long, and figured I would edit the wiki
 pages or put up a couple of new ones.


The wiki isnt a mailing list, please dont use it to 'communicate' with 
people.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/04/2011 05:25 PM, Jim Woods wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Karanbir Singhmail-li...@karan.org  wrote:
 The wiki isnt a mailing list, please dont use it to 'communicate' with
 people.
 Are you serious?

Absolutely!

 You're telling me it's not acceptable procedure to create a wiki
 page, say WebsiteVer2/WireFrame, where folks can post an image for the
 website design, then discuss on the mailing list and point people to
 that wiki page to look at?

I can imagine there will be a fair few ideas thrown around, so sticking 
with the list initially would be better. If not, a vcs instance to host 
such would be far better than putting it in the wiki.

 Now, I am going to guess this is a mis-understanding. That you thought
 I was just going to post my email verbatim to the wiki. That is not

That is what it sounded like...

 the case. All I wanted to do was create the starter pages like the
 ones I mention above, then post to the mailing list and get the
 discussion moving forward. It seemed inefficient to me to try and use
 the mailing list for the collaborative work portion and not the wiki.

The 'work part of the website ver2' is meant to take place in a 
development centric tool, like openatrium, rather than overloading what 
is essentially a flat-text target, ie the wiki.

As Alan pointed out, a good place to start might be under your username 
on the wiki.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/04/2011 06:04 PM, Jim Woods wrote:
 Fair enough. Does the openatrium tool exist yet? Is that something
 else that needs to get done before moving forward? I wouldn't have
 made the wiki request, or assumed that was the correct place do this
 work if I had known there were plans to use another tool.

Yes, its there. But looks to be a bit frozen out at the moment ( 
http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/websitever2/ is where its meant to show up 
); fwiw, its been 'evaluated', quite possible not 'decided' upon. Maybe 
a point for the meeting on Thursday!


 Ralph, can you create a HomePage for me? I would like to use that to
 place a review of the existing web content, and maybe put up a
 wireframe to show how the frontpage would look.

I think he did that already :)

also, it would be awesome if we can get a few options like this for the 
irc meeting on Thursday.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated listing of translations on each wiki page

2010-11-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/03/2010 06:32 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
 On 11/03/2010 01:31 AM, Timothy Lee wrote:
 I need to sync up with Ralph and get the dev instance of the wiki online
 again.

 Ping?...

Just a quick update - we are hoping to bring in a couple of machines 
online in the next few days ( working through the issues with the Donor 
today ). Ralph and I will get the development instance of the wiki 
online there.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated listing of translations on each wiki page

2010-11-03 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/03/2010 01:31 AM, Timothy Lee wrote:
 I need to sync up with Ralph and get the dev instance of the wiki online
 again.

 Ping?...


I've been on the move for a few days and havent been able to sync up 
with Ralph to get the dev wiki instance setup ( not being in the same TZ 
makes things a bit harder ).

lets see if we can get this done in the next few days.

I've also been looking at various options to get commenting enabled for 
the wiki pages, a more detailed and topical post about that shortly.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated listing of translations on each wiki page

2010-10-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 10/19/2010 07:46 AM, Timothy Lee wrote:
 I sincerely hope that the patch can be applied to the official CentOS
 wiki, thereby making all translated pages a lot more more accessible
 to the public.

I need to sync up with Ralph and get the dev instance of the wiki online 
again.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Automated listing of translations on each wiki page

2010-10-19 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 10/19/2010 07:46 AM, Timothy Lee wrote:
 I sincerely hope that the patch can be applied to the official CentOS
 wiki, thereby making all translated pages a lot more more accessible
 to the public.
 Ping?...

I'll look into this today.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] [Fwd: Re: [CentOS-devel] EOL plans for C3]

2010-08-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 08/12/2010 12:30 PM, didi wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Timo Schoeler
 timo.schoe...@riscworks.net  wrote:
 Could anyone with the appropriate rights please create the C3-EOL page?

 Here you go http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/EOLC3

why is it a HowTo ?

Also, it needs to be marked as a Draft

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Re: [CentOS-docs] HowTos - 21. CentOS Guidelines - How to create public mirrors for CentOS

2010-06-14 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 06/14/2010 03:33 PM, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Yeah, but is it all in one place? I haven't looked, I must admit. But

I doubt its in one place. Which might be why the questions around it get 
asked often.

 I'd hate to duplicate efforts, too - although I'd like to see
 documentation rather in the wiki than on the website.

Would something like this fit under a Mirror section under the InfraWiki 
? Or you think its worth keeping completely independent of that.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Tips and Tricks: Install from GRUB

2010-06-01 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 05/28/2010 06:21 PM, Ed Heron wrote:
 I had an urge to ask the same about updating CentOS docs, but that is
 commonly interpreted as volunteering to lead the task.  I'd volunteer to
 help, though.  Is someone currently in charge of that?

Tru has been looking into some of the docs recently, but the 'guides' 
section definitely needs an owner and keeper. Thanks for stepping up and 
offering to help with this!

 http://www.centos.org/docs/5/ suggests that the CentOS project
 redistributes without modification.  Since this isn't code, I assume
 (subject to correction) that this process is different than the process
 at http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General/RebuildReleaseProcess but possibly
 similar in some respects for the equivalent rpms.

The process for the docs is not really the same as the rpms. 'Process'. 
End result is that we need to meet the licensing requirements of the 
docs as they are posted upstream, and yet be able to change them enough 
that they are self contained. I believe the details of the requirements 
are mentioned at the bottom of every page of the docs at 
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/

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Re: [CentOS-docs] FAQ/General/RebuildReleaseProcess

2010-05-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi,

On 05/21/2010 03:41 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote:
 Just updated the subject page

 http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General/RebuildReleaseProcess


There is nothing wrong with the process mentioned on that page - its 
just not the one being used in CentOS anymore. So adapting the title and 
the headings on that page should be a good start. Specially important is 
that the overall gist of what is going on is correct ~ rebuilding 
packages, compare to upstream and push it out.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] FAQ/General/RebuildReleaseProcess

2010-05-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 05/21/2010 04:46 PM, Alan Bartlett wrote:
 So, assuming you have overruled both Johnny and Russ, will you please
 make the one being used in CentOS known to the rest of the world.

Think about it for a second, you don't feel that process's are changable 
? Would you like to point me to where it says that what we were doing at 
one stage will never ever change ? I havent overruled anyone there, just 
pointed out that content on there no longer reflects the process - 
however, the gist of the article is still correct.

 I trust your wording above, and hence the implicit message, was an
 error. I was lead to believe, after the Lance Davis affair of last
 summer, that there would be no more secrecy or any unilateral
 decisions made by one person.

Given that you are not a part of the team that handles buildsystem 
issues, what made you think that any of these process's were down to 
only one person ?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Newsletter status

2010-04-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/27/2010 10:44 PM, Geerd-Dietger Hoffmann wrote:
 So the final touches should be applied to the Newsletter soon. How are
 people progressing?

I've heard about, in the past, web based software that helps people get 
articles together and then go through a process to be published. Are we 
at a stage where investigating something of this nature might be 
beneficial ?

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Newsletter status

2010-04-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/28/2010 04:13 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
 I've heard about, in the past, web based software that helps people get
 articles together and then go through a process to be published. Are we
 at a stage where investigating something of this nature might be
 beneficial ?
 welcome to googledocs :))

 Google wave?  I have invites, I think.

I was thinking about something that would also implement a process. So 
Alan would know exactly which articles are 'done' and he needs to look 
through, and so Didi/Marcus could check to see which ones have been 
through Alan's filter.

Something of this nature might also allow for people to submit muiltiple 
articles and for Didi/Marcus to be able to select and nominate which 
release gets which articles etc.

I am sure there is something out there ( s/w ) that would make this 
process easy. And before anyone says it - no Lotus Domino isnt it!

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Re: [CentOS-docs] www.centos.org and the wildcard dns

2010-04-17 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/16/2010 10:52 PM, Ed Heron wrote:
 At the moment there is a www.centos.org site. There is also a wildcard
 dns setup that directs anything.centos.org to www.centos.org's content
 ...

Unless I'm missing something, http://yadda.centos.org doesn't redirect, it
 displays a copy of the (www.)centos.org content.

thats right ( and what I meant, *.centos.org shows www.centos.org 
content, but does not redirect url )

I'm not that knowledgeable about SEO stuff, but wouldn't a redirect be
 better?

yup, thats what I think anyway. I know that google is dropping pagerank 
since multiple domains have the same content.

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[CentOS-docs] www.centos.org and the wildcard dns

2010-04-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi guys,

At the moment there is a www.centos.org site. There is also a wildcard 
dns setup that directs anything.centos.org to www.centos.org's content

This has a couple of 'issues' with SEO and google sepcifically. The 
reason we have such low page rank is that google marks all of this as 
duplicate content. I am sure there are other search engines that do as 
well ( Bing has a policy of marking down duplicates as well ).

So, what I'd like to propose is to either drop the wildcard dns 
completely, or setup a new vhost for the wildcard that isnt 
www.centos.org. What we could then do is either present people with a 
list of options on destinations they might be interested in. eg:

- www.centos.org
- wiki.centos.org
- bugs.centos.org
- mirror.centos.org
- isolist.centos.org

thoughts ?


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Re: [CentOS-docs] www.centos.org and the wildcard dns

2010-04-16 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 16/04/10 17:06, JohnS wrote:
 I do not think that's the whole problem:  Take into consideration this;
 site:wiki.centos.org kernelbuild
 Use that at both bing.com and google.com.  Bing wins hands down.

 BTW when was the last bing crawl date? Today?

well, googlebot is always on centos.org, its not uncommon for search 
results from the forums to show content created within the last hour.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Kernel type in RPMs

2010-03-30 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 03/29/2010 05:07 PM, Eduardo Grosclaude wrote:
 PS Is there some way to subscribe to arbitrary pages? The subscribe
 option in the drop-down menu appears only in pages I am able to edit.

if you goto your user preferences page - you should be able to see a 
list of pages you are subscribed to - that same text box accepts 
arbitrary regex - so you can use wildcards to subscribe to sections of 
the wiki etc.

you will get notifications of any edit made on a page you have read 
access to.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Spanish Manuals missing?

2010-03-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 03/03/2010 01:08 AM, Eduardo Grosclaude wrote:
 This path does exist in the English branch of Wiki:
 http://wiki.centos.org/Documentation -  http://www.centos.org/docs -
 http://www.centos.org/docs/5
 (as does this another, redundant path, leading to same docs:
 http://wiki.centos.org/Documentation -  http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals
 -  http://www.centos.org/docs/5)

The entire docs setup needs to be updated, and yes we should get the 
other language things included as well. I know Andreas Rogge did some 
work on a standard template that might be used. But noone has actually 
done the work required.

Would you like to take ownership of the www.centos.org/docs/ stuff 
completely ? It does not mean you need to do all the work yourself, but 
it would mean that you need to make sure there are people around who do 
the stuff, and make sure the site and all the content on there is 
relevant and maintained! Given that the effort required is going to be 
identical for the english and the spanish ones, no reason why this could 
not cover the whole spectrum.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] General FAQ addition

2010-03-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi,

On 03/03/2010 09:23 PM, R P Herrold wrote:
 [herr...@centos-5 ~]$ rpm -qi sos
 Name: sos

the only issue with sos ( son of sysreport! ) is that it provides a lot 
of info, including many things that people would consider 'sensitive' in 
security and privacy terms. Not sure if I'd want to give anyone I didnt 
implicitly trust ( eg. with a user account on the system ) the complete 
output from sos on any of my machines. [1]

on the other hand, sos plugins are quite easy to write, and perhaps a 
command line that disables the 'standard' plugins might be worth looking 
into.

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[1] My own sos info might be a bit dated, early last year ( 2009 ) I was 
looking into writing a web app that would allow people to submit sos 
output to track 'state' but ended up writing a plugin that just gives me 
via email what i need.
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Re: [CentOS-docs] General FAQ addition

2010-03-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 03/04/2010 01:54 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote:
 Added an entry to http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General :
 Thanks for the comments Russ, but as Karanbir says, sysreport/sos
 provides a LOT of information.  We were shooting at much smaller targets
 with the scripts.  I should have mentioned - The effort was an outgrowth
 of a long thread on the User Comments forum and not just my idea.

I didnt say that sos was not a good idea - it is the *best* idea here, 
that is designed to do just sort of thing being attempted, but it does 
go into a lot of detail since its built to be run for a client talking 
to a business support guy at the other end, and not *everyone* over the 
internet. The other thing is that it can run for a long long time, hours 
in some cases. So there are negatives and the issue of toobig a tool for 
a small task; is a very valid issue. The other issue would be to get a 
plugin installed into sosreport, would need a bit more of an effort than 
just downloading and running a script.

So the issue here is :
- define what we want out of it ( I am not sure this has been defined 
anywhere )

- see if its easier to get that info out from sos or do a bash script

 http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?viewmode=flattopic_id=25030forum=18

If it is a case of going down the bash script route, this is a good 
place to start. However, the script has no author or license / copyright 
info - you should fix that.

Another thing that would be quite nice to see is if this script could 
auto-feed a pastebin and return a pastebin ID; as long as it does not 
increase the complexity of the script too much.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] General FAQ addition

2010-03-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 03/04/2010 03:31 PM, Alan Bartlett wrote:
 Needless to say, what the *forum community* want out of it *has* been
 defined and a reference *has* been provided.

Where should I look to see this definition ? The forum thread is woolly 
at best. It seems to start with a 'when I was ... we did ... ', rather 
than actually trying to quantify what the issue is and what a potential 
solution might be.

I dont want to get in the way or be irritating, but if there is an 
attempt to do something, I dont see any harm in making that into a more 
useful tool that might benefit a few more people.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] page for translators

2010-02-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 02/13/2010 02:33 PM, Alan Bartlett wrote:
 I know that the rot of wiki pages is a particular concern to Russ
 and I have to agree with him. Without adequate commitment by the

I dont think this has anything to do specifically with the translators - 
much of the original content contributed over the years in any language 
goes waste. There are plenty of pages around on the wiki that need 
attention and original authors have not come back to do anything about is.

Brings us back to the editorial team issue.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] page for translators

2010-02-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 02/13/2010 04:07 PM, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Alain is offline (and has been for two months or so). Up to then he
 normally found the time to update the spanish translation, as pages were
 changed or sometimes newly created.

The CentOS-es seems fairly active, I regularly see content there in both 
the lists and over irc - Is it then just a case of asking a broader 
audience ?

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[CentOS-docs] page for translators

2010-02-12 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi guys,

is there a page I could point potential translators at ? There have been 
a few people who have shown interest in helping with some languages that 
we do not have translations for at the moment, including russian, 
gujrati, greek and turkish.

Is there a page on the wiki that we could point these people at ? maybe 
a 'getting started with translations', something that might include 
'things that we usually translate' and 'polices and ideas around the 
wiki.c.o in different languages'. Having never looked into the 
translations stuff, I am a bit of a loss here an could use some help.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Article on building i586 CentOS-5 kernel

2010-01-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
Hi,

I am lagging a bit on the -docs maillist backlog, will try and catchup 
over the next few days.

On 01/11/2010 06:17 AM, Timothy Lee wrote:
  * http://wiki.centos.org/TimothyLee/centos5_i586_patch

 These instructions have been successfully tested against the
 2.6.18-164.10.1.el5 kernel.  All comments are welcomed.

sounds good :)

 I have two questions for the development team:

  * Is this article suitable for publication on the wiki?

I'd say no, not here in the user facing wiki

  * Can the changes mentioned in that article be incorporated into the
stock SRPM?  (As far as I know, non-i586 builds should not be
affected)

No, but there is a big open door in the c5plus kernel window. That would 
be the best place for this.


However, expanding a bit ( and this conversation might be better for 
-devel rather than -docs ).

Is the modified kernel the the only bit of change you need for i586 
support ? I'd think a glibc.i586 might be worth doing as well. And there 
were a few other packages that were required to be patched on c4 to make 
it work for i586. How many of those are needed here as well ?  And there 
are a lot of patches in the kernel tree that might not impact the i586 
code at all. eg. whats the state of xen in this i586 kernel ?

If there is reasonable interest in running a i586 tree, then imho, a SIG 
dedicated to this would be the best route to go. It would also make it 
possible to have a i586 specific tree that can be maintained in parallel 
to the main core distro.

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[CentOS-docs] Newsletter

2010-01-11 Thread Karanbir Singh
hi,

its been a while since the last newsletter. Whats the future there ?

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[CentOS-docs] feedback for Amavisd page

2009-12-21 Thread Karanbir Singh
This from irc:
13:07  orogor hi here
13:07  orogor how do i edit a centos wiki page ?
13:08  orogor chkconfig --level 123456  sendmail off
13:08  orogor http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Amavisd
13:08  orogor need to add this line arround the service check 
configuration lines
13:08 @z00dax orogor: could you post that to the docs list ? 
http://lists.centos.org/
13:09  orogor i dont wanna subscribe to the ML :\
13:09  orogor i ll never read it

Just posting this here on behalf of orogor

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