Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS website/blog localization support for IT (italian...) language

2019-12-16 Thread Fleur
Thanks a lot !

I'll keep the group updated on the it translation progress ...
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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS website/blog localization support for IT (italian...) language

2019-12-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 12:00 PM Fleur  wrote:

> Il lun 16 dic 2019, 20:11 Akemi Yagi  ha scritto:
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 8:39 AM Fleur  wrote:
>> >
>> > I'll reply to myself only to redo a point of where we've arrived and
>> > what I need to start my job
>> >
>> > On last Monday 9th Dec I Wrote
>> > > What I can give now is to help translate the CentOS website/blog to 
>> > > italian language.
>> >
>> > I followed the steps suggested in the Contribute to the Wiki [1] page
>> > - Create a login account with username in the right format: 
>> > FirstnameLastname
>> > - Subscribed me to the CentOS-docs mailing list
>> > - Sent a message to that mailing-list " CentOS-docs" after I've
>> > received the subscription notification
>> > - Wait a bit that someone in the AdminGroup creates the requested
>> > pages and give me editing rights
>> >
>> > So, after I've verified that my email arrived, has been archived, and
>> > no reply was sent to that, I'm now at the check step "...If there were
>> > no replies then be persistent and resend your original email".
>> >
>> > I think that after my first proposal with a long list of pages to be
>> > translated can be revised to start directly from this shorten list :
>> > (Yes, I'm official asking to edit this pages)
>> >
>> >  - https://wiki.centos.org/it/Contribute?action=edit
>> >  - https://wiki.centos.org/it/HowTos/Wiki/Editing?action=edit
>> >  - https://wiki.centos.org/it/FrontPage?action=edit
>> >  - https://wiki.centos.org/it/Documentation?action=edit
>> >
>> > Can someone read this message (Rich are you there?) directly involved
>> > in the CentOS Project support me with this request to the AdminGroup?
>> > [2]
>> >
>> > It's time to strike while the iron is hot
>> >
>> > Forgive my impertinence but I'm impatient to start giving a -small-
>> > but I think useful contribute to the project
>> >
>> > Happy hacking
>> > Andrea Flori
>> > aka
>> > Fleur
>> >
>> > [1] : https://wiki.centos.org/Contribute#Contribute_to_the_Wiki
>> > [2] : https://wiki.centos.org/AdminGroup
>>
>> Sorry for not replying sooner. Is your wiki name AndreaFlori ?
>>
>> Akemi
>
> Yes, it is.

You should be able to edit (or create) any page under it/ . Also, you
are in the translation group. Please let us know if you find any
problem with the translation work.

Thank you for your contribution,

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS website/blog localization support for IT (italian...) language

2019-12-16 Thread Fleur
Yes, it is.

Il lun 16 dic 2019, 20:11 Akemi Yagi  ha scritto:

> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 8:39 AM Fleur  wrote:
> >
> > I'll reply to myself only to redo a point of where we've arrived and
> > what I need to start my job
> >
> > On last Monday 9th Dec I Wrote
> > > What I can give now is to help translate the CentOS website/blog to
> italian language.
> >
> > I followed the steps suggested in the Contribute to the Wiki [1] page
> > - Create a login account with username in the right format:
> FirstnameLastname
> > - Subscribed me to the CentOS-docs mailing list
> > - Sent a message to that mailing-list " CentOS-docs" after I've
> > received the subscription notification
> > - Wait a bit that someone in the AdminGroup creates the requested
> > pages and give me editing rights
> >
> > So, after I've verified that my email arrived, has been archived, and
> > no reply was sent to that, I'm now at the check step "...If there were
> > no replies then be persistent and resend your original email".
> >
> > I think that after my first proposal with a long list of pages to be
> > translated can be revised to start directly from this shorten list :
> > (Yes, I'm official asking to edit this pages)
> >
> >  - https://wiki.centos.org/it/Contribute?action=edit
> >  - https://wiki.centos.org/it/HowTos/Wiki/Editing?action=edit
> >  - https://wiki.centos.org/it/FrontPage?action=edit
> >  - https://wiki.centos.org/it/Documentation?action=edit
> >
> > Can someone read this message (Rich are you there?) directly involved
> > in the CentOS Project support me with this request to the AdminGroup?
> > [2]
> >
> > It's time to strike while the iron is hot
> >
> > Forgive my impertinence but I'm impatient to start giving a -small-
> > but I think useful contribute to the project
> >
> > Happy hacking
> > Andrea Flori
> > aka
> > Fleur
> >
> > [1] : https://wiki.centos.org/Contribute#Contribute_to_the_Wiki
> > [2] : https://wiki.centos.org/AdminGroup
>
> Sorry for not replying sooner. Is your wiki name AndreaFlori ?
>
> Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS website/blog localization support for IT (italian...) language

2019-12-16 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 8:39 AM Fleur  wrote:
>
> I'll reply to myself only to redo a point of where we've arrived and
> what I need to start my job
>
> On last Monday 9th Dec I Wrote
> > What I can give now is to help translate the CentOS website/blog to italian 
> > language.
>
> I followed the steps suggested in the Contribute to the Wiki [1] page
> - Create a login account with username in the right format: FirstnameLastname
> - Subscribed me to the CentOS-docs mailing list
> - Sent a message to that mailing-list " CentOS-docs" after I've
> received the subscription notification
> - Wait a bit that someone in the AdminGroup creates the requested
> pages and give me editing rights
>
> So, after I've verified that my email arrived, has been archived, and
> no reply was sent to that, I'm now at the check step "...If there were
> no replies then be persistent and resend your original email".
>
> I think that after my first proposal with a long list of pages to be
> translated can be revised to start directly from this shorten list :
> (Yes, I'm official asking to edit this pages)
>
>  - https://wiki.centos.org/it/Contribute?action=edit
>  - https://wiki.centos.org/it/HowTos/Wiki/Editing?action=edit
>  - https://wiki.centos.org/it/FrontPage?action=edit
>  - https://wiki.centos.org/it/Documentation?action=edit
>
> Can someone read this message (Rich are you there?) directly involved
> in the CentOS Project support me with this request to the AdminGroup?
> [2]
>
> It's time to strike while the iron is hot
>
> Forgive my impertinence but I'm impatient to start giving a -small-
> but I think useful contribute to the project
>
> Happy hacking
> Andrea Flori
> aka
> Fleur
>
> [1] : https://wiki.centos.org/Contribute#Contribute_to_the_Wiki
> [2] : https://wiki.centos.org/AdminGroup

Sorry for not replying sooner. Is your wiki name AndreaFlori ?

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS website/blog localization support for IT (italian...) language

2019-12-16 Thread Fleur
I'll reply to myself only to redo a point of where we've arrived and
what I need to start my job

On last Monday 9th Dec I Wrote
> What I can give now is to help translate the CentOS website/blog to italian 
> language.

I followed the steps suggested in the Contribute to the Wiki [1] page
- Create a login account with username in the right format: FirstnameLastname
- Subscribed me to the CentOS-docs mailing list
- Sent a message to that mailing-list " CentOS-docs" after I've
received the subscription notification
- Wait a bit that someone in the AdminGroup creates the requested
pages and give me editing rights

So, after I've verified that my email arrived, has been archived, and
no reply was sent to that, I'm now at the check step "...If there were
no replies then be persistent and resend your original email".

I think that after my first proposal with a long list of pages to be
translated can be revised to start directly from this shorten list :
(Yes, I'm official asking to edit this pages)

 - https://wiki.centos.org/it/Contribute?action=edit
 - https://wiki.centos.org/it/HowTos/Wiki/Editing?action=edit
 - https://wiki.centos.org/it/FrontPage?action=edit
 - https://wiki.centos.org/it/Documentation?action=edit

Can someone read this message (Rich are you there?) directly involved
in the CentOS Project support me with this request to the AdminGroup?
[2]

It's time to strike while the iron is hot

Forgive my impertinence but I'm impatient to start giving a -small-
but I think useful contribute to the project

Happy hacking
Andrea Flori
aka
Fleur

[1] : https://wiki.centos.org/Contribute#Contribute_to_the_Wiki
[2] : https://wiki.centos.org/AdminGroup
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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS website/blog localization support for IT (italian...) language

2019-12-13 Thread Fleur
Hi, thanks a lo (!) t for your reply.

> I'm doing some working to start the Italian translation job (build a glossary 
> and share some good rules to approach translation task)

I've completed this (simple) task, so I'm ready to start the
translation jpb and also to spread the voice to Italian LUG to catch
other people
No news still from the MoinMoin development team (asking them to
explain if they have some sort of translation support inside their
wiki platform). I will keep you updated

> I don't think we track any stats of that nature.
No data about our web visitors? It's a precise choice? OK to not track
single user, etc but understand from an aggregate point of view:
visitors per country, user web browser (and OS) choice, user device
(pc/mobile/tablet)

> Exactly what's https://planet.centos.org?
> Planet Centos is a blog aggregator. However, since we have almost no active 
> bloggers in our community, it ends up just being a mirror of the main 
> blog.centos.org site.
> A while back I looked around for some active centOS bloggers who were posting 
> quality content and came up with almost nothing. If you're aware of any, we 
> can try to get them added on.
I can contact some IT blogger (that wrote about Linux and Centos) that
I found interesting

> If you think there's value in translating these blog posts, I suppose that 
> would be fine. I'm not sure, though, where we would host that content.
I think that this page and the content that it brings is very useful
(both from an announce/news update that from a technical perspective)

Regards,

Andrea Flori
aka
Fleur
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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS website/blog localization support for IT (italian...) language

2019-12-13 Thread Rich Bowen


On 12/10/19 7:20 AM, Andy Tech wrote:

Hi all, still again here...

I'm doing some working to start the Italian translation job (build a
glossary and share some good rules to approach translation task)

I've analyzed the wiki software (MoinMoin) and found it extremely
useful and simple
and I'm trying to get in touch with the it-translator-team of that platform.

I've two questions :
1) Can you share the usage/mostly accessed page on the wiki (to choose
where to start from the translating job and also to check how many
pages are served from the /it/ sub roots)


No, I don't think we track any stats of that nature.


Exactly what's https://planet.centos.org?
It seems to be a historical overview of what's happened in the CentOS
community from the beginning of 2017 until today ...


planet.centos is a blog aggregator. However, since we have almost no 
active bloggers in our community, it ends up just being a mirror of the 
main blog.centos.org site. A while back I looked around for some active 
centOS bloggers who were posting quality content, and came up with 
almost nothing. If you're aware of any, we can try to get them added on.




Can I also translate this? Perhaps starting from the beginning of 2019 posts...
I noted this page seems to be served and managed from a different
platform (http://www.planetplanet.org/)

If you think there's value in translating these blog posts, I suppose 
that would be fine. I'm not sure, though, where we would host that content.



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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS website/blog localization support for IT (italian...) language

2019-12-10 Thread Andy Tech
Hi all, still again here...

I'm doing some working to start the Italian translation job (build a
glossary and share some good rules to approach translation task)

I've analyzed the wiki software (MoinMoin) and found it extremely
useful and simple
and I'm trying to get in touch with the it-translator-team of that platform.

I've two questions :
1) Can you share the usage/mostly accessed page on the wiki (to choose
where to start from the translating job and also to check how many
pages are served from the /it/ sub roots)
2) Is there/can we access an svn/git repository to save/backup the
translated page (both shared with another language translator team or
specific to our use)

and also ...

Exactly what's https://planet.centos.org?
It seems to be a historical overview of what's happened in the CentOS
community from the beginning of 2017 until today ...

Can I also translate this? Perhaps starting from the beginning of 2019 posts...
I noted this page seems to be served and managed from a different
platform (http://www.planetplanet.org/)

Again Happy hacking a tutti!

Fleur

PS: Even any references, errors and related lessons learned by other
translators can help, so ... don't hesitate to give me suggestions and
useful tips
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[CentOS-docs] CentOS website/blog localization support for IT (italian...) language

2019-12-09 Thread Andy Tech
Hi guys, greetings from Italy.

My name is Andrea Flori and I work in an IT company who give Linux
support to his customers

I am somehow involved with CentOS in the last 3 years (both for
private/personal use and work) and I think that time is arrived to
give some contribution to the project.

In the last 3 years, I am somehow involved with CentOS (both for
private/personal use and work) and I think that's time is arrived to
give some contribution to the project.

I haven't a super technician skill so I think that the best support I
can give now is to help translate the CentOS website/blog to Italian.

So why not to start from a good basepoint like this -> "Contribute to the Wiki"?
[ https://wiki.centos.org/Contribute ]

And of course also the related ones ...

Like this :
https://wiki.centos.org/ToDo
https://wiki.centos.org/Donate
https://wiki.centos.org/Promote
https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Wiki/Editing
https://wiki.centos.org/Newsletter/Contributing
https://centos.org/download/

Some translations, harder and complex, will come after a first
training period if I'll be able to survive to the extra job that this
task requires :-)

I'm talking about :
 - https://wiki.centos.org/FAQ
 - https://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSStream
 - https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos
 - https://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks

Some questions :
- There's some Italian guy on this list? Who wants to help me in this job?
- There's already some translation job started but not finished to
reuse / from which start from?
- What's the relationship (from the translation point of view) of the
website, the blog and the mailing-list? Blog and Website are on the
same web publishing platform?
- There's some dictionary with shared and clear key words? (Like using
"host" for "server", etc.) ?
- There're some guidelines about how to do the translation task?

I can't access this link... what's wrong? What's the purpose of this page?
[ https://wiki.centos.org/UserPreferences ]

Happy hacking a tutti !
[ happy hacking to everybody ]

Andrea Flori
aka
Fleur


PS : I'll in Bruxelles next January @ FOSDEM 2020, so I'll try to meet
you at Dojo on Friday, 31-JAN (I'll arrive in the morning at the
airport, before midday on the Marriot hotel)
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