Re: [CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread Alain Péan
Le 22/06/2011 23:12, R P Herrold a écrit : On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: The problem with RHEL6/CentOS6 is that Redhat bought Qumranet (the KVM company) and decided to only ship KVM host support in RHEL6. RHEL6/CentOS6 runs as Xen VM though, so you can use RHEL5/CentOS5 Xen

Re: [CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 06/22/2011 11:12 PM, R P Herrold wrote: On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: The problem with RHEL6/CentOS6 is that Redhat bought Qumranet (the KVM company) and decided to only ship KVM host support in RHEL6. RHEL6/CentOS6 runs as Xen VM though, so you can use RHEL5/CentOS5 Xen

Re: [CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread Neil Thompson
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 05:12:27PM -0400, R P Herrold wrote: The sources that will become CentOS 6 will run xen.org virtualization as a dom0, and KVM may be excluded You said what? Could one of the CentOS devs please confirm that you are going to be breaking the binary/feature

Re: [CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread Alain Péan
Le 23/06/2011 17:16, R P Herrold a écrit : I did not say the CentOS project was ** going to ship ** xen; I said: The sources that will become CentOS 6 ** will run ** xen.org virtualization as a dom0, and KVM ** may be ** excluded CentOS proper at the 6 level will ship KVM

Re: [CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 06/23/2011 06:28 PM, Alain Péan wrote: Le 23/06/2011 17:16, R P Herrold a écrit : I did not say the CentOS project was ** going to ship ** xen; I said: The sources that will become CentOS 6 ** will run ** xen.org virtualization as a dom0, and KVM ** may be ** excluded

[CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Alain Péan wrote: I must say that the meaning of your message is not clear for me. What is the difference for you between The sources that will become CentOS 6, and CentOS proper ? What do you have in mind ? Why KVM may be excluded ? for reasons out of scope here, CentOS

[CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Manuel Wolfshant wrote: Without implying that I can read his mind, I guess he meant People with enough skills will be able to tweak C6 to use xen as Dom0 Wolfie beat me to the post by eight seconds, it seems Yes, it appears that he can read my mind -- Russ herrold

Re: [CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread Alain Péan
Le 23/06/2011 17:49, R P Herrold a écrit : On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Alain Péan wrote: I must say that the meaning of your message is not clear for me. What is the difference for you between The sources that will become CentOS 6, and CentOS proper ? What do you have in mind ? Why KVM may be

Re: [CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 06/23/2011 06:54 PM, Tom Bishop wrote: Russ if you have time can you elaborate more about why you are continuing to go down the Xen path, I for one would love to hear the why's and what for. I can understand the hardware requirements, and I know xen is generally going to be faster but

Re: [CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread Alain Péan
Le 23/06/2011 18:04, Manuel Wolfshant a écrit : I'll give you my reasons : - existing infra, setup and knowledge - RH gave up promoting xen because it was acquired by a competitor, not because it was not good ( or worse ) than kvm I think there was another very good reason why Red Hat chose

[CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Tom Bishop wrote: Russ if you have time can you elaborate more about why you are continuing to go down the Xen path, I for one would love to hear the why's and what for. I can understand the hardware requirements, and I know xen is generally going to be faster but my

[CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Alain Péan wrote: I must add that, due to the fact Dom0 has been included in recent Kernel 3.0 tree, it will certainly be possible in future releases of RHEL, then CentOS, to choose either Xen or KVM as virtualization solution. perhaps, but this is in part a LKML

Re: [CentOS-virt] Recommendations, please

2011-06-23 Thread Tom Bishop
Thank You Russ and Manuel Wolfshant, I don't know you well enough to call you wolfy ;), for your comments, greatly appreciated. I support my home stuff and a small install at my church. Since Redhats' decision to go KVM and since my install will be Centos I was/have been migrating over to