Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-15 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:43:48PM +0100, Kris Buytaert wrote: On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:26 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Both Novell and Oracle having been deeply involved in Xen lately, both are developing and supporting their own products based on Xen. Given the fact that

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-12 Thread Kris Buytaert
On Tue, 2009-11-10 at 16:26 +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Both Novell and Oracle having been deeply involved in Xen lately, both are developing and supporting their own products based on Xen. Given the fact that Unbreakable is a source rebuild from RHEL, and Oracle is putting a lot of

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Frederic SOULIER
Hi, Do you really think that RHEL6 will not include dom0 version ? It seems that KVM will be the favorite for redhat virtualisation but i think Xen is actually largely deployed. We have here a cluster of ten Xen centos 5.4 dom0 and i'm asking what it will become with RHEL6 if there is no more

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread carlopmart
Frederic SOULIER wrote: Hi, Do you really think that RHEL6 will not include dom0 version ? Yes, Xen Dom0 will be never supported from RHEL6, onlu domU ... It seems that KVM will be the favorite for redhat virtualisation but i think Xen is actually largely deployed. We have here a cluster

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:11:24AM +0100, carlopmart wrote: Frederic SOULIER wrote: Hi, Do you really think that RHEL6 will not include dom0 version ? Yes, Xen Dom0 will be never supported from RHEL6, onlu domU ... It seems that KVM will be the favorite for redhat virtualisation but i

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Frederic SOULIER
Correct me if i'm wrong. If rhel6 propose domU version that would say that a dom0 rhel5.X version will be able to run rhel6 domU ? Pasi Kärkkäinen a écrit : On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:39:35AM +0100, carlopmart wrote: Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:11:24AM +0100,

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:27:57AM +0100, carlopmart wrote: Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Still it isn't official, but Citrix XenServer will disappears soon ... It will be integrated under Microsoft Hyper-V Uhm.. I don't believe this. Where did you read that? Citrix XenServer

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread carlopmart
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:27:57AM +0100, carlopmart wrote: Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Still it isn't official, but Citrix XenServer will disappears soon ... It will be integrated under Microsoft Hyper-V Uhm.. I don't believe this. Where did you read that?

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:20:11PM +0100, carlopmart wrote: Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:27:57AM +0100, carlopmart wrote: Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Still it isn't official, but Citrix XenServer will disappears soon ... It will be integrated under Microsoft Hyper-V

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread carlopmart
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:20:11PM +0100, carlopmart wrote: Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:27:57AM +0100, carlopmart wrote: Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Still it isn't official, but Citrix XenServer will disappears soon ... It will be integrated under

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Grant McWilliams
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:36 AM, carlopmart carlopm...@gmail.com wrote: Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:20:11PM +0100, carlopmart wrote: Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:27:57AM +0100, carlopmart wrote: Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Still it isn't

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:01:46AM -0800, Grant McWilliams wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 4:36 AM, carlopmart [1]carlopm...@gmail.com wrote: Pasi KÀrkkÀinen wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:20:11PM +0100, carlopmart wrote: Pasi KÀrkkÀinen wrote: On Tue,

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:49:59PM +0100, Dennis J. wrote: On 11/10/2009 03:35 PM, Grant McWilliams wrote: Both Novell and Oracle having been deeply involved in Xen lately, both are developing and supporting their own products based on Xen. -- Pasi ___ I have

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:12:50PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:49:59PM +0100, Dennis J. wrote: On 11/10/2009 03:35 PM, Grant McWilliams wrote: Both Novell and Oracle having been deeply involved in Xen lately, both are developing and supporting their

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Dennis J.
On 11/10/2009 04:13 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 05:12:50PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:49:59PM +0100, Dennis J. wrote: On 11/10/2009 03:35 PM, Grant McWilliams wrote: Both Novell and Oracle having been deeply involved in Xen lately,

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Grant McWilliams
Which I guess makes describing a guest as fully virtualized or paravirtualized rather pointless given that there now is just a degree of how paravirtualized a guest is depending on the drivers you use. Regards, Dennis I disagree completely. KVM or Xen HVM are fully virtualized except

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 07:49:01AM -0800, Grant McWilliams wrote: Which I guess makes describing a guest as fully virtualized or paravirtualized rather pointless given that there now is just a degree of how paravirtualized a guest is depending on the drivers you use.

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:36:39PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:52:36PM -0500, Scott McClanahan wrote: Yeah.. Xen paravirtualized mmu is fast, and in some (many) cases beats CPU hardware virtualized mmu. KVM has 'pvmmu' aswell, but it's not as good, so

Re: [CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-10 Thread Miguel Di Ciurcio Filho
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Quotes: So, KVM requires 66.93/52.85 = 26.6% more CPU to do the same amount of work. If we normalize to CPU utilization, Xen is doing 20% more throughput. KVM running Windows VMs uses 46% more CPU than the Other-Hypervisor A different hypervisor was compared; KVM

[CentOS-virt] XEN and RH 6

2009-11-09 Thread Hildebrand, Nils, 232
Hi, my local RH-salesman told me that rh6 will be based on a mix of Fedora 11/12 - so I hope for the best. At the moment I am stuck with SLES (currently 10) on our Dom0-servers, since it has the newer XEN-version. I would love to move to RH or CentOS with my Dom0s... Kind regards Nils