Re: [CentOS-virt] Using network-script with Xen 4.4.1 (aka what will I do without xend?)

2015-01-31 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:39 PM, George Dunlap dunl...@umich.edu wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Gene gh5...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have seen those documents, I did not see anything that indicates how
 _automatic_ bridge configuration could be enabled with xl.

 For my specific set up I have two bridges (xenbr0 - peth0  xenbr1 -
 peth1).  If I have to configure this manually with ifcfg scripts I will, but
 if an automatic method is provided or is possible with xl I'd prefer to use
 that.

 Thanks Gene -- I'll add a note about the transition to network-scripts
 in the CentOS migrating to xl document.

And coming around again: if you need pair bonding and VLAN tagging,
the best guideline is probably my old one: for KVM at
https://wikis.uit.tufts.edu/confluence/display/TUSKpub/Configure+Pair+Bonding,+VLANs,+and+Bridges+for+KVM+Hypervisor

The more recent versions of NetworkManager for RHEL 7 and Fedora
apparently support VLAN tagging and pair bonding, but the interface is
poor. If you want it to be robust and reliable for virtualization
server, I'll urge you to set NM_CONTROLLED=no in
/etc/sysconfig/network, so it's inherited by default for all network
ports.

I'e some long rants about the unsuitability of NetworkManager for
servers we could expolore some time if you need it. But especially for
a virtualizaton server as opposed to a guest VM, It's dangerously
destabilizing
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Using network-script with Xen 4.4.1 (aka what will I do without xend?)

2015-01-30 Thread George Dunlap
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Gene gh5...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have seen those documents, I did not see anything that indicates how
 _automatic_ bridge configuration could be enabled with xl.

 For my specific set up I have two bridges (xenbr0 - peth0  xenbr1 -
 peth1).  If I have to configure this manually with ifcfg scripts I will, but
 if an automatic method is provided or is possible with xl I'd prefer to use
 that.

Thanks Gene -- I'll add a note about the transition to network-scripts
in the CentOS migrating to xl document.

 -George
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Using network-script with Xen 4.4.1 (aka what will I do without xend?)

2015-01-30 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:39:17AM -0800, Gene wrote:
I normally use the network-script parameter in the
'/etc/xen/xend-config.sxp' configuration file to configure network
bridges.  However, the latest release of Xen4CentOS (which comes with Xen
4.4.1) has xend disabled by default. Â
Can I continue to use network-script without xend?  If not what is the
recommended method for automatically configuring network bridges with the
latest release of Xen4CentOS?
I know I can just enable xend to continue using this script, but since Xen
4.5 is apparently dropping xend altogether I figure I should change my
standard configuration starting now.
Thanks in advance for your time.
-Gene

Hello,

You should set up the bridges using distro networking scripts, so 
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-* 
That's the supported and preferred way.

(It was the recommended way also with xend, that's why xen network-script was 
disabled as a default).


-- Pasi

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Re: [CentOS-virt] Using network-script with Xen 4.4.1 (aka what will I do without xend?)

2015-01-29 Thread Gene
I have seen those documents, I did not see anything that indicates how
_automatic_ bridge configuration could be enabled with xl.

For my specific set up I have two bridges (xenbr0 - peth0  xenbr1 -
peth1).  If I have to configure this manually with ifcfg scripts I will,
but if an automatic method is provided or is possible with xl I'd prefer to
use that.

-Gene

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Lars Kurth lars.kurth@gmail.com
wrote:

 Gene,
 I think you should find the answers in
 * http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Xen/Xen4QuickStart/Xen4Libvirt (bottom of
 page)
 * http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Migration_Guide_To_Xen4.1%2B
 http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Migration_Guide_To_Xen4.1+
 *
 http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Network_Configuration_Examples_%28Xen_4.1%2B%29
 http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Network_Configuration_Examples_(Xen_4.1+)
 * http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/XL_vs_Xend_Feature_Comparison may also
 be relevant
 If not, circle back to the list and I am sure someone else will be able to
 answer
 Regards
 Lars

 On 29 Jan 2015, at 08:39, Gene gh5...@gmail.com wrote:

 I normally use the network-script parameter in the
 '/etc/xen/xend-config.sxp' configuration file to configure network
 bridges.  However, the latest release of Xen4CentOS (which comes with Xen
 4.4.1) has xend disabled by default.

 Can I continue to use network-script without xend?  If not what is the
 recommended method for automatically configuring network bridges with the
 latest release of Xen4CentOS?

 I know I can just enable xend to continue using this script, but since Xen
 4.5 is apparently dropping xend altogether I figure I should change my
 standard configuration starting now.

 Thanks in advance for your time.

 -Gene

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[CentOS-virt] Using network-script with Xen 4.4.1 (aka what will I do without xend?)

2015-01-29 Thread Gene
I normally use the network-script parameter in the
'/etc/xen/xend-config.sxp' configuration file to configure network
bridges.  However, the latest release of Xen4CentOS (which comes with Xen
4.4.1) has xend disabled by default.

Can I continue to use network-script without xend?  If not what is the
recommended method for automatically configuring network bridges with the
latest release of Xen4CentOS?

I know I can just enable xend to continue using this script, but since Xen
4.5 is apparently dropping xend altogether I figure I should change my
standard configuration starting now.

Thanks in advance for your time.

-Gene
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Re: [CentOS-virt] Using network-script with Xen 4.4.1 (aka what will I do without xend?)

2015-01-29 Thread Lars Kurth
Gene,
I think you should find the answers in
* http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Xen/Xen4QuickStart/Xen4Libvirt (bottom of page)
* http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Migration_Guide_To_Xen4.1%2B
* 
http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/Network_Configuration_Examples_%28Xen_4.1%2B%29
* http://wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/XL_vs_Xend_Feature_Comparison may also be 
relevant
If not, circle back to the list and I am sure someone else will be able to 
answer
Regards
Lars

On 29 Jan 2015, at 08:39, Gene gh5...@gmail.com wrote:

 I normally use the network-script parameter in the '/etc/xen/xend-config.sxp' 
 configuration file to configure network bridges.  However, the latest release 
 of Xen4CentOS (which comes with Xen 4.4.1) has xend disabled by default.  
 
 Can I continue to use network-script without xend?  If not what is the 
 recommended method for automatically configuring network bridges with the 
 latest release of Xen4CentOS?
 
 I know I can just enable xend to continue using this script, but since Xen 
 4.5 is apparently dropping xend altogether I figure I should change my 
 standard configuration starting now.
 
 Thanks in advance for your time.
 
 -Gene
 
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