Re: [CentOS] heartbeat configuration for lb

2010-12-13 Thread Juergen Gotteswinter
Not 100% On Topic, but perhaps you should try keepalived for vrrp failover on Loadbalancers. Much more reliable, easier to setup and faster switch to the standby host keepalived.org Am 13.12.10 04:50, schrieb Emmett Culley: On 12/11/2010 07:26 PM, bluethundr wrote: Sorry I forgot to finish

Re: [CentOS] What NAS device(s) do you use? And why?

2010-12-13 Thread Juergen Gotteswinter
- Dell Equalogic - Very good experience, absolutly reliable - EMC CX Series - Wont´t buy them again, many Problems with the iSCSI - HP MSA - No Problems at all Am 12.12.10 23:12, schrieb Ross Walker: On Dec 12, 2010, at 11:34 AM, Les Mikeselllesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010

Re: [CentOS] What NAS device(s) do you use? And why?

2010-12-13 Thread RedShift
In one instance we need to host virtual machines, so we don't need anything fancy. I'm happy with running iSCSI / NFS and even AOE. Currently we have a few 2U SuperMicro servers with 24bays, running OpenFiler. But, OpenFiler is outdated and limited when it comes to scalability. Ideally, I

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread lhecking
They are OK with the roll-your-own style of Gentoo? Especially with it's cutting edge versions, bugs, security holes and the only way to overcome them is to upgrade to an even newer version that may break compatibility, introduce new bugs, zero-day vulnerabilities, the list goes on and

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

2010-12-13 Thread John Doe
From: Keith Roberts ke...@karsites.net I'm on Centos 5.5, and would like to use sox to strip out any periods of silence 5 seconds from a batch mp3 audio files. Googling I found sox, but it does not seem to support mp3 files by default. I don't think it is autodetected at runtime. You

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 5:02 AM, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: They are OK with the roll-your-own style of Gentoo? Especially with it's cutting edge versions, bugs, security holes and the only way to overcome them is to upgrade to an even newer version that may break

[CentOS] Installing GDChart fails: pecl/gdchart requires PHP extension gd

2010-12-13 Thread Alexander Farber
Hello, has anybody solved the problem of installing GDChart on CentOS 5.5 (I've tried both 32 and 64 bit versions)? I have: # rpm -qa | grep -i php php-pear-1.4.9-6.el5 php-gd-5.1.6-27.el5 php-ldap-5.1.6-27.el5 php-pgsql-5.1.6-27.el5 php-5.1.6-27.el5 php-pdo-5.1.6-27.el5 php-common-5.1.6-27.el5

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 13, 2010, at 5:02 AM, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: They are OK with the roll-your-own style of Gentoo? Especially with it's cutting edge versions, bugs, security holes and the only way to overcome them is to upgrade to an even newer version that may break compatibility,

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Ross Walker
On Dec 13, 2010, at 5:02 AM, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: They are OK with the roll-your-own style of Gentoo? Especially with it's cutting edge versions, bugs, security holes and the only way to overcome them is to upgrade to an even newer version that may break compatibility,

[CentOS] Installing Centos 5.5 64 bit issues

2010-12-13 Thread benedict dcunha
Dear All, We have a new SUN BLADE X6270 SERVER MODULES and i am trying to install centos 5.5 64 bit . the installations starts fine but when it reaches the point inialthe X server it says initialization done but then gives a fatal error and stops Appreciate if some one could help me and advice

Re: [CentOS] Installing Centos 5.5 64 bit issues

2010-12-13 Thread RedShift
On 12/13/10 16:01, benedict dcunha wrote: Dear All, We have a new SUN BLADE X6270 SERVER MODULES and i am trying to install centos 5.5 64 bit . the installations starts fine but when it reaches the point inialthe X server it says initialization done but then gives a fatal error and stops

Re: [CentOS] Issues with stat() call on CentOS5 vs CentOS4

2010-12-13 Thread James Pearson
Dougal Ballantyne wrote: I have recently upgraded several servers from CentOS4 to CentOS5 and I am noticing a strange change to the stat() call. I have written a very small program to test and show the behavior. I am calling stat() against a file which is exported from my NAS and mounted

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

2010-12-13 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010, Jorge Fábregas wrote: To: centos@centos.org From: Jorge Fábregas jorge.fabre...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s On Sunday 12 December 2010 17:02:27 Keith Roberts wrote: I need to remove (or shorten to 5 seconds) any silent sections

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

2010-12-13 Thread John Hodrien
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Keith Roberts wrote: I know about audacity, but I want a command line tool that will work overnight, on a batch of mp3 files, each about 15MB per hour. You've got a command line tool that does what you need, it just needs rebuilding with mp3 support. I'm with John Doe's

[CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Sven Aluoor
Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too complicated for my limited brainpower. What programming language

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Scot P. Floess
I've not used C# - but as I understand it has similar constructs as Java (and C++)... What about Java didn't you understand? Trying to understand what you didn't understand to make a suggestion... I know, back in the day, I was all about Pascal :) On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Sven Aluoor wrote:

Re: [CentOS] Installing Centos 5.5 64 bit issues

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
benedict dcunha wrote: Dear All, We have a new SUN BLADE X6270 SERVER MODULES and i am trying to install centos 5.5 64 bit . the installations starts fine but when it reaches the point inialthe X server it says initialization done but then gives a fatal error and stops Appreciate if some

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Sven Aluoor wrote: Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too complicated for my limited brainpower.

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Chris Geldenhuis
Sven Aluoor wrote: Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too complicated for my limited brainpower.

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Scot P. Floess wrote: I've not used C# - but as I understand it has similar constructs as Java (and C++)... What about Java didn't you understand? Trying to understand what you didn't understand to make a suggestion... I know, back in the day, I was all about Pascal :) Well, that's why

Re: [CentOS] What NAS device(s) do you use? And why?

2010-12-13 Thread Prentice Bisbal
John R Pierce wrote: On 12/11/10 8:15 AM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: If you use any NAS (or a SAN) devices, what do you use? And I'm referring more to larger scale network storage than your home PC or home theater system. We've had very good experiences with our NetGear ReadyNAS devices but I'm

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Sunday, December 12, 2010 12:48:36 pm Keith Roberts wrote: Or are there any other programs that can be used to strip silent periods from MP3's? Please see the mp3splt and mp3join programs referenced by

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 13, 2010 11:14:24 am Sven Aluoor wrote: What programming language should I learn? Python. You can find useful examples of python code throughout CentOS, beginning the yum itself. Get yourself a copy of 'Dive into Python' (can be had as a free download, legalling) and,

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Alan Hodgson
On December 13, 2010 08:14:24 am Sven Aluoor wrote: Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/13/2010 10:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too complicated for

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 13, 2010 11:26:12 am Lamar Owen wrote: On Sunday, December 12, 2010 12:48:36 pm Keith Roberts wrote: Or are there any other programs that can be used to strip silent periods from MP3's? Please see the mp3splt and mp3join programs referenced by

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 17:14 +0100, Sven Aluoor wrote: Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Digimer
On 12/13/2010 11:37 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 17:14 +0100, Sven Aluoor wrote: Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Scot P. Floess
Ha! Well, I wish I could say my like of Java is related to your description :) On a side note, I use to make a living with C++ prior to Java ;) On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Scot P. Floess wrote: I've not used C# - but as I understand it has similar constructs as Java

Re: [CentOS] What NAS device(s) do you use? And why?

2010-12-13 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/13/10 12:44 AM, RedShift wrote: I'd stay away from AoE for high availability, I've tried it at home but performance can fluctuate and the AoE driver present in CentOS 5 is way too old. I wasn't able to build a HA setup without corrupting data when failover occured. Any HA block

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

2010-12-13 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010, Jorge Fábregas wrote: To: centos@centos.org From: Jorge Fábregas jorge.fabre...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s On Sunday 12 December 2010 17:02:27 Keith Roberts wrote: I need to remove (or shorten to 5 seconds) any silent

Re: [CentOS] Installing Centos 5.5 64 bit issues

2010-12-13 Thread Brian Mathis
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:22 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: benedict dcunha wrote: Dear All, We have a new SUN BLADE X6270 SERVER MODULES and i am trying to install centos 5.5 64 bit . the installations starts fine but when it reaches the point inialthe X server it says initialization done

Re: [CentOS] Issues with stat() call on CentOS5 vs CentOS4

2010-12-13 Thread Dougal Ballantyne
James, Thank you. This is very helpful. It does seem like a very strange change in behavior between CentOS/RHEL4,5 6. I am rebuilding a kernel with only i_blksize restored for NFS. Don't like having to change the kernel but might be needed to keep consistency accross releases. -Dougal On Mon,

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Brian Mathis
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek zdene...@o2.pl wrote: Hello all. Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? I have the following situation. I tried to promote CentOS to local bank. They have now a couple of Gentoo-based systems and I tried to explain them that

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:22:28PM -0500, Brian Mathis wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek zdene...@o2.pl wrote: Hello all. Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? I have the following situation. I tried to promote CentOS to local bank. They have

[CentOS] adobe flash

2010-12-13 Thread Ritika Garg
I have CentOS5.5 installed in the system. After updating the version of firefox, the videos are playing on the internet. Earlier the message flash player download required used to come. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Installing Centos 5.5 64 bit issues

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Brian Mathis wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:22 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: benedict dcunha wrote: We have a new SUN BLADE X6270 SERVER MODULES and i am trying to install centos 5.5 64 bit . the installations starts fine but when it reaches the point inialthe X server it says

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 05:47:53PM +, lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Anyone who advocates maintaining from source has simply never administered more than a handful of machines at a time. Great way to learn, but impractical for hundreds to thousands of machines.

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Benjamin Franz
On 12/13/2010 08:53 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: snip And python's the only language to use whitespace as a syntax element http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitespace_%28programming_language%29 But seriously, there are a fair number of (mostly older) languages that are fairly picky about

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Kristopher Kane
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek zdene...@o2.pl wrote: Hello all. Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? What does 'enterprise' mean to you? -Kristopher Kane ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:55:12PM -0500, Kristopher Kane wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek zdene...@o2.pl wrote: Hello all. Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? What does 'enterprise' mean to you? Space. The final frontier...

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 11:53 -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 17:14 +0100, Sven Aluoor wrote: Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
lheck...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: Anyone who advocates maintaining from source has simply never administered more than a handful of machines at a time. Great way to learn, but impractical for hundreds to thousands of machines.

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Ray Van Dolson wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:55:12PM -0500, Kristopher Kane wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Zdenek zdene...@o2.pl wrote: Hello all. Does anybody have experience with pushing CentOS in enterprise? What does 'enterprise' mean to you? Space. The final

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Adam Tauno Williams wrote: snip My only real usability gripe is the craptastic type management, static typing would be a big improvement. [But pythonista's heads would explode at having to eat their own dog-food about writing 'self documenting code']. Hey, the dogs' food is USDA approved, I

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 13, 2010 12:54:35 pm Benjamin Franz wrote: But seriously, there are a fair number of (mostly older) languages that are fairly picky about whitespace. I still remember writing FORTRAN. We still have one application running on a VAXStation 4000 being maintained in FORTRAN

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 13, 2010 01:03:03 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: What does 'enterprise' mean to you? Space. The final frontier... Hey, that's the question, when you're trying to get new, bigger disks! What we need is a working warp drive. These magnetic impulse drives are still too

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Lamar Owen wrote: On Monday, December 13, 2010 01:03:03 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: What does 'enterprise' mean to you? Space. The final frontier... Hey, that's the question, when you're trying to get new, bigger disks! What we need is a working warp drive. These magnetic impulse

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

2010-12-13 Thread Keith Roberts
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Lamar Owen wrote: To: Keith Roberts ke...@karsites.net From: Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu Subject: Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s On Monday, December 13, 2010 12:01:38 pm you wrote: PS The list is quiet today. Hope I'm not loosing anything from it :)

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Gé Weijers
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: RHEL is much better about that, although by now the production RHEL 5 is 4 years out of date, the leading edge RHEL 6 is now one year out of date after the lengthy release testing, and CentOS will always lag that. I believe out of date is the

Re: [CentOS] adobe flash

2010-12-13 Thread Pintér Tibor
On 12/13/2010 06:30 PM, Ritika Garg wrote: I have CentOS5.5 installed in the system. After updating the version of firefox, the videos are playing on the internet. Earlier the message flash player download required used to come. so what? is that a problem? you want your message back? t

[CentOS] how to install CentOS onto a USB flash drive from Windows?

2010-12-13 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Hi all, Can anyone please point me to a link with instructions on how to install CentOS 5 onto a USB flash drive, preferably from Windows? I would like to create a full running CentOS installation (with minimal packages obviously) that runs off a USB flash drive, and I don't have a Linux machine

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Eero Volotinen
2010/12/13 Gé Weijers g...@weijers.org: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: RHEL is much better about that, although by now  the production RHEL 5 is 4 years out of date, the leading edge RHEL 6 is now one year out of date after the lengthy release testing, and CentOS will always

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread cornel panceac
2010/12/13 Sven Aluoor alu...@gmail.com Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too complicated for my

[CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, A T Williams wrote: *But* I am the primary developer of a large Python application http://www.ohloh.net/p/coils [113K lines and growing] and it *is( an interesting trendlines there [soft economy, or loss of interest in FOSS oritented languages, I wonder] -- I tinkered

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
cornel panceac wrote: 2010/12/13 Sven Aluoor alu...@gmail.com I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too

[CentOS] Sun X4640

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Problems with a relatively new server: anyone have one of these, and if I see ECC errors complaining about node 2, core x, does node 2 mean board 2, or is that the third board, counting from zero, or...? mark ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] Sun X4640

2010-12-13 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/13/10 11:39 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Problems with a relatively new server: anyone have one of these, and if I see ECC errors complaining about node 2, core x, does node 2 mean board 2, or is that the third board, counting from zero, or...? means you should call Sun service. or

Re: [CentOS] adobe flash

2010-12-13 Thread Sven Aluoor
2010/12/13 Pintér Tibor tib...@tibyke.hu: On 12/13/2010 06:30 PM, Ritika Garg wrote: I have CentOS5.5 installed in the system. After updating the version of firefox, the videos are playing on the internet. Earlier the message flash player download required used to come. so what? is that a

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Mathieu Baudier
What programming language should I learn? It depends what you want to do. - build quickly applications, reusing existing components and understanding a lot of the Linux ecosystem = Python - process quickly huge amount of text files = Practical Exrtaction and Reporting Language (aka. PERL, yes

Re: [CentOS] Sun X4640

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
John R Pierce wrote: On 12/13/10 11:39 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Problems with a relatively new server: anyone have one of these, and if I see ECC errors complaining about node 2, core x, does node 2 mean board 2, or is that the third board, counting from zero, or...? means you should call

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Nick
On 13/12/10 16:14, Sven Aluoor wrote: I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too complicated for my limited

Re: [CentOS] adobe flash

2010-12-13 Thread Jerry Franz
On 12/13/2010 12:05 PM, Sven Aluoor wrote: 2010/12/13 Pintér Tibortib...@tibyke.hu: On 12/13/2010 06:30 PM, Ritika Garg wrote: I have CentOS5.5 installed in the system. After updating the version of firefox, the videos are playing on the internet. Earlier the message flash player download

Re: [CentOS] adobe flash

2010-12-13 Thread Brian Mathis
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Jerry Franz jfr...@freerun.com wrote: On 12/13/2010 12:05 PM, Sven Aluoor wrote: 2010/12/13 Pintér Tibortib...@tibyke.hu: On 12/13/2010 06:30 PM, Ritika Garg wrote: I have CentOS5.5 installed in the system. After updating the version of firefox, the videos are

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 13, 2010 03:15:48 pm Nick wrote: This is a bit like saying I have 12 years experience of hunting but I too myopic to aim a pistol, then asking which firearm should I carry? To an extent; I read it more along the lines of 'I have 12 years experience hunting with a scoped

[CentOS] Specifying 2 LDAP Server for auth

2010-12-13 Thread Nicolas Ross
Hi ! We are planing on deploying an ldap master and replica to serve as our new authentication server for our soon to be RedHat cluster. But, we need to be able to function if the master is down for whatever reason. So, I tried to specify 2 servers in the setup-authentification servername

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Tom Bishop
LOL...great analogy..I think the details will be lost on many non firearm types...but I found it to be a great analogy...:) On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On Monday, December 13, 2010 03:15:48 pm Nick wrote: This is a bit like saying I have 12 years

Re: [CentOS] Specifying 2 LDAP Server for auth

2010-12-13 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nicolas Ross wrote: Hi ! We are planing on deploying an ldap master and replica to serve as our new authentication server for our soon to be RedHat cluster. But, we need to be able to function if the master is down for whatever reason. So, I tried to specify 2

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Warren Young
On 12/13/2010 9:37 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: A friend said that C-Sharp (Mono) is very simple. Is this true? I doubt you'll find it any less complex than Java. The two are very similar, conceptually. C# exists more for political and business reasons

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Patrick Lists
On 12/13/2010 05:14 PM, Sven Aluoor wrote: Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too complicated for

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 14:49 -0700, Warren Young wrote: On 12/13/2010 9:37 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: A friend said that C-Sharp (Mono) is very simple. Is this true? I doubt you'll find it any less complex than Java. The two are very similar,

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Warren Young wrote: On 12/13/2010 9:37 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 12/13/2010 10:14 AM, Sven Aluoor wrote: snip Your next step should be to something simpler, and with less of a difference to your existing experience. Perl is probably the easiest next step for someone who has shell scripting

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Patrick Lists wrote: On 12/13/2010 05:14 PM, Sven Aluoor wrote: I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread m . roth
Adam Tauno Williams wrote: snip -1 Perl is a withering dinosaur. snip I expect by the time P6 arrives very few people will care; Perl has been fading for a long time. ROTFLMAO! It'll wither some time after the last COBOL program is retired... and definitely after java dies with a stake

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/13/2010 4:28 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Try perl, you'll like it. We'll ignore the fact that, back in the nineties, at the end of the 104 or so page man page, the secret was that it stood for P(athologically) E(clectic) R(ubbish) L(ister) And if you are going to write anything that

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Warren Young
On 12/13/2010 12:08 PM, R P Herrold wrote: As the thread was for a newbie recommendation, I'd really consider Ruby before any of the others, Yes, Ruby can work for much the same reasons I gave for Perl in my previous post in this thread. I'd say it has a bigger mismatch w.r.t. shell script

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/13/2010 4:32 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Adam Tauno Williams wrote: snip -1 Perl is a withering dinosaur. snip I expect by the time P6 arrives very few people will care; Perl has been fading for a long time. ROTFLMAO! It'll wither some time after the last COBOL program is

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread John R. Dennison
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 05:30:09PM -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Patrick Lists wrote: Have a look at Lua (www.lua.org). Imo it's quite readable and less snip Don't. I have literally never heard of it before, and I at least have heard of everything else folks have mentioned. Learn something

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Warren Young
On 12/13/2010 3:02 PM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 14:49 -0700, Warren Young wrote: C# exists more for political and business reasons than technical ones; it fills the same space Java could fill, in a platform-agnostic world. False. C# has significant technical

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Warren Young
On 12/13/2010 3:30 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Have a look at Lua (www.lua.org). Imo it's quite readable and less snip Don't. I have literally never heard of it before, It's quite popular in some areas, particularly as an embedded scripting engine in games. Having written one substantial

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/13/2010 5:20 PM, Warren Young wrote: Strictness is a *feature*. Especially for someone who wants to initially learn programming. The OP already tried that, with Java, and didn't like it. The argument's bogus anyway. Many experienced programmers want to teach strictness from the

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Benjamin Franz
On 12/13/2010 03:49 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: I doubt if there are a lot that can simultaneously think in procedural and object concepts, though. Someone who learns that code and data are different things and that data is not to be trusted will have a hard time dealing with objects where the

[CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Have a look at Lua (www.lua.org). Imo it's quite readable and less snip Don't. I have literally never heard of it before, and I at least have heard of everything else folks have mentioned. Learn something that there's a *large* base of folks who

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On 12/13/2010 6:08 PM, Benjamin Franz wrote: I doubt if there are a lot that can simultaneously think in procedural and object concepts, though. Someone who learns that code and data are different things and that data is not to be trusted will have a hard time dealing with objects where the

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Gé Weijers g...@weijers.org wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: RHEL is much better about that, although by now  the production RHEL 5 is 4 years out of date, the leading edge RHEL 6 is now one year out of date after the lengthy release

Re: [CentOS] Specifying 2 LDAP Server for auth

2010-12-13 Thread Nicolas Ross
It works, but the Red Hat tools don't create the optimal configuration files. The following works in our environment (two LDAP servers, TLS required). I set the various timelimit values low to facilitate a fairly robust failover: # /etc/ldap.conf # # failover doesn't seem to work work

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread David
On 14 December 2010 03:14, Sven Aluoor alu...@gmail.com wrote: I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Fajar Priyanto
On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Sven Aluoor alu...@gmail.com wrote: I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because it is too

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Jerry Franz
On 12/13/2010 04:16 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 12/13/2010 6:08 PM, Benjamin Franz wrote: I don't know about that. I started on Apple Integer BASIC back in 1980, dropped to assembly on multiple platforms, and eventually ended up doing OO style design in Perl in the 90s *before* it officially

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Sven Aluoor alu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi folks I have more than 12 years experience with UNIX system administration, but I am too stupid for programming. My only programming experience is shell scripting. I tried to learn Java, but don't understand it because

Re: [CentOS] Installing Centos 5.5 64 bit issues

2010-12-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:01 AM, benedict dcunha sylvan.dcu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, We have a new SUN BLADE X6270 SERVER MODULES and i am trying to install centos 5.5 64 bit . the installations starts fine but when it reaches the point inialthe X server it says initialization done but

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Christopher Chan
On Tuesday, December 14, 2010 02:28 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Oog... I just looked that up http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/kitchen/dea2/?source=google_home_officecpg=ogho1gclid=CLiQtsPt6aUCFRVx5QodJHRAYQ mark not sure I want to know where no man has cut before There,

[CentOS] CentOS cluster solution

2010-12-13 Thread David S.
Dear All, I got a new project to build cloud computing base on centos clustering (clustering and cluster storage). whether failover, load balancing can be applied? I've read about CentOS clustering and cluster storage but I'm still confused, any help or advice in this thread will be appreciate.

Re: [CentOS] Sun X4640

2010-12-13 Thread Ben McGinnes
On 14/12/10 7:12 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I've been working with them (right, the engineer I'm working with is in Chile, while I'm in DC). I *think* this is a Linux naming convention, though. Anyway, after I posted, I mentioned the problem to my manager, and he suggested I look in dmesg.

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0976 Important CentOS 5 i386 bind Update

2010-12-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2010:0976 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0976.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: ee98ccdb3c68b1a3c8142bce1989da82

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0976 Important CentOS 5 x86_64 bind Update

2010-12-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2010:0976 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0976.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 5cf34e317a52e095db1b4ba8ceb76a4c

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0978 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 openssl Update

2010-12-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2010:0978 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0978.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: 7547da29abed436513baae97268e9892

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0978 Moderate CentOS 5 x86_64 openssl Update

2010-12-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2010:0978 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0978.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: 871aff0eb12ab302fd2908dc93345ed0

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2010:0898 Moderate CentOS 5 i386 kvm Update

2010-12-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2010:0898 Moderate Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2010-0898.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) i386: Source: b1144f2da07b09f09f518556c687dc8d

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