Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread Ned Slider
On 12/02/15 20:03, Warren Young wrote: Hi, just a quick note to whoever is maintaining this page: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH The procedure is missing the firewall-cmd calls necessary in EL7: firewall-cmd --add-port 2345/tcp firewall-cmd --add-port 2345/tcp

Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread James Hogarth
On 12/02/15 20:03, Warren Young wrote: Hi, just a quick note to whoever is maintaining this page: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH The procedure is missing the firewall-cmd calls necessary in EL7: firewall-cmd --add-port 2345/tcp firewall-cmd --add-port

Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 09:46 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: On 02/13/2015 09:15 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Yeah, the old move stuff to alternate ports thing is largely a waste of time and just makes it more difficult for legitimate use. With large bot networks and tools like zmap, finding services

Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, James Hogarth james.hoga...@gmail.com said: If you really want to SSH to a port other than 22 for a little obscurity use an iptables dnat to map the high port to local host 22 and block 22 from external connections. Yeah, the old move stuff to alternate ports thing is largely

Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On 02/13/2015 09:15 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Yeah, the old move stuff to alternate ports thing is largely a waste of time and just makes it more difficult for legitimate use. With large bot networks and tools like zmap, finding services on alternate ports is not that hard for the bad guys.

Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On 02/13/2015 05:41 AM, James Hogarth wrote: This is horrible advice anyway. It's not a good idea to run SSH on a port greater than 1024 since if a crash exploit is used to kill the process a non-root trojan process faking SSH to gather credentials could then bind on that port trivially totally

Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote: On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 09:46 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: On 02/13/2015 09:15 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Yeah, the old move stuff to alternate ports thing is largely a waste of time and just makes it more difficult for legitimate use. With large bot networks and tools like

Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, February 13, 2015 9:05 am, Always Learning wrote: On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 09:46 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: On 02/13/2015 09:15 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Yeah, the old move stuff to alternate ports thing is largely a waste of time and just makes it more difficult for legitimate use. With

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Ken Smith k...@kensnet.org wrote: Hi All, I'm just wanting to check that my understanding of the settings is correct as my web searches are finding a lot of dated information. If I want a Centos 6 sendmail system act as the secondary MX for domain

[CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Ken Smith
Hi All, I'm just wanting to check that my understanding of the settings is correct as my web searches are finding a lot of dated information. If I want a Centos 6 sendmail system act as the secondary MX for domain b.co.uk do I just add a Connect:b.co.uk RELAY

Re: [CentOS] Thread moderation and list etiquette (Reference - Another Fedora Decision)

2015-02-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/02/15 16:51, Brian Mathis wrote: Thanks for putting in the effort here. It's never a good situation to have to moderate, but sometimes it is necessary. From my perspective, this kind of thing happens far more often than the current example, though maybe not with such intensity. This

Re: [CentOS] Thread moderation and list etiquette (Reference - Another Fedora Decision)

2015-02-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 12/02/15 18:08, Les Mikesell wrote: On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Brian Mathis brian.mathis+cen...@betteradmin.com wrote: CentOS is unquestionably one of the most used Linux distros in the world, and yet the mailing list is relatively quiet. To me this is a symptom of a problem, and I

Re: [CentOS] Thread moderation and list etiquette (Reference - Another Fedora Decision)

2015-02-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote: I think it is generally a good thing when the bulk of the conversation here is ranting about mostly irrelevant opinions. That is, instead yes, lots of irrelevant conversation on the list - and it comes from a

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Ken Smith
Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Otherwise it accept junk that your primary rejects Not exactly. If greylisting on primary is set, but on backup MX is not, still what is killed by greylisting by primary MX, almost never

Re: [CentOS] Thread moderation and list etiquette (Reference - Another Fedora Decision)

2015-02-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, February 13, 2015 12:07 pm, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 12/02/15 16:51, Brian Mathis wrote: Thanks for putting in the effort here. It's never a good situation to have to moderate, but sometimes it is necessary. From my perspective, this kind of thing happens far more often than the

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, February 13, 2015 11:52 am, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Otherwise it accept junk that your primary rejects Not exactly. If greylisting on primary is set, but on backup MX is not, still what is killed by

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, February 13, 2015 12:18 pm, Ken Smith wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Otherwise it accept junk that your primary rejects Not exactly. If greylisting on primary is set, but on backup MX is not, still what

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: In this case the secondary MX has the same RBL's etc etc as the primary. I do see the spammers sending their junk to the secondary more than the primary MX. Agree the secondary does not know the difference

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Otherwise it accept junk that your primary rejects Not exactly. If greylisting on primary is set, but on backup MX is not, still what is killed by greylisting by primary MX, almost never will come through

Re: [CentOS] firewalld default policy = allow = no affect.

2015-02-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/12/2015 08:14 PM, dE wrote: Looking at the default policies of various zones, I've come to realize that only the drop zone has an affect, that's because this's the only one which drops unmatched packets. I'm not sure what you mean, but most firewall sets for iptables follow the same

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: I stated pure observation on at least two pairs of primary - backup MX I maintain. Still I made backup MXes with greylisting as well (they are separately hit by same bad spammers scripts, at a rate about 10 times

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, February 13, 2015 11:04 am, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:57 AM, Ken Smith k...@kensnet.org wrote: Hi All, I'm just wanting to check that my understanding of the settings is correct as my web searches are finding a lot of dated information. If I want a Centos 6

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ken Smith k...@kensnet.org said: In this case the secondary MX has the same RBL's etc etc as the primary. I do see the spammers sending their junk to the secondary more than the primary MX. Agree the secondary does not know the difference between valid and invalid addresses.

Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 13, 2015, at 9:03 AM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: ...changing port numbers...does not really add security. Security through obscurity is only considered to be efficient by Windows folks. “Security through obscurity” is an overused mantra of derision. Originally,

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, February 13, 2015 12:52 pm, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: In this case the secondary MX has the same RBL's etc etc as the primary. I do see the spammers sending their junk to the secondary more than the

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 13/02/15 18:45, Valeri Galtsev wrote: So, what is the secondary MX server that you are describing that accepts everything is based on? if you actually read the thread you are replying to blindly, you might find out ? -- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ |

Re: [CentOS] Getting strange message in terminal

2015-02-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 01:52:00 +0530 MOHD HOMAIDUR RAHMAN wrote: when I am login in terminal I am getting following message. Something is running the export command when you login. Type the word export at a bash prompt and I'd bet you'll see the same output again. You probably have something

[CentOS] xfs_quotas

2015-02-13 Thread m . roth
Hi, folks, (The system I'm doing this on is actually RHEL 6.6, but that list is so quiet) We've got a new RAID box attached to the server. Large. We'd like to implement xfs quotas... but one thing I can't find is information on this: we want to export the real directory to /project,

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, February 13, 2015 12:41 pm, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: I stated pure observation on at least two pairs of primary - backup MX I maintain. Still I made backup MXes with greylisting as well (they are separately

Re: [CentOS] xfs_quotas

2015-02-13 Thread James A. Peltier
- Original Message - | Hi, folks, | |(The system I'm doing this on is actually RHEL 6.6, but that list is so | quiet) | |We've got a new RAID box attached to the server. Large. We'd like to | implement xfs quotas... but one thing I can't find is information on | this: we want

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Ken Smith
Ken Smith wrote: Hi All, I'm just wanting to check that my understanding of the settings is correct as my web searches are finding a lot of dated information. If I want a Centos 6 sendmail system act as the secondary MX for domain b.co.uk do I just add a Connect:b.co.uk

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: So even though sendmail I heard is not a security disaster for long time already I'm quite happy with postfix. Sendmail was pretty much all fixed by the time postfix was released, and made even better with the

[CentOS] Getting strange message in terminal

2015-02-13 Thread MOHD HOMAIDUR RAHMAN
Dear all when I am login in terminal I am getting following message. declare -x ALL_PROXY=socks://hproxy.iitm.ac.in:3128/ declare -x AMBERHOME=/sware/amber/amber12 declare -x COLORTERM=gnome-terminal declare -x CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/bin/include declare -x

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Ken Smith
Karanbir Singh wrote: On 13/02/15 18:45, Valeri Galtsev wrote: So, what is the secondary MX server that you are describing that accepts everything is based on? if you actually read the thread you are replying to blindly, you might find out ? :-) -- This message has been scanned for

Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 10:03 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Fri, February 13, 2015 9:05 am, Always Learning wrote: I always change the SSH port to something conspicuously different. Every server has a different and difficult to guess SSH port number with access restricted to a few IP

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 11:04 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: I'd recommend not having a secondary MX at all unless it is equipped to reject invalid users and spam in all the same ways as your primary. Otherwise it accept junk that your primary rejects and then you are obligated to send a bounce

Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 11:21 -0500, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I disagree - I am in the waste of time camp. The reality is that only script kiddies start out by trying 22 (and I *do* mean script kiddies - I've seen attempts to ssh in that were obviously from warez, man, where they were too

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Sendmail backup MX Config

2015-02-13 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 11:39 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: I've seen at least at some point that google mail accepts everything. That is because Google is primarily a USA government sponsored intelligence gathering operation. It wants as much information as possible. Google's commercial

Re: [CentOS] Thread moderation and list etiquette (Reference - Another Fedora Decision)

2015-02-13 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 18:09 +, Karanbir Singh wrote: yes, lots of irrelevant conversation on the list - and it comes from a handful of users. Its irrelevant, take it to an irrelevant venue. centos.m...@centos.org centos...@centos.org ? c...@centos.org --

[CentOS] C5 BASH IF

2015-02-13 Thread Always Learning
Being new to some aspects of BASH, I tried to reduce the quantity of scripts by introducing a comparison test into an existing working script. The script refused to work until I placed [ ] around the actual test. The second test, in the same script, misfunctioned until I removed the [ ] around

Re: [CentOS] C5 BASH IF

2015-02-13 Thread Les Mikesell
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote: Being new to some aspects of BASH, I tried to reduce the quantity of scripts by introducing a comparison test into an existing working script. The script refused to work until I placed [ ] around the actual test. The

Re: [CentOS] C5 BASH IF

2015-02-13 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2015-02-14 at 05:26 +, Always Learning wrote: NON-WORKING second comparison 15 if [ $file='law00.css' ] 16 then 17file=$dir/$file 18echo css 19 else 20file=$dir/$file\.php 21echo no css 22 fi 23 # Every

Re: [CentOS] C5 BASH IF

2015-02-13 Thread Always Learning
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 23:46 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: I think you are missing some very basic concepts here. First, the shell likes to parse things separated by white space. Second, [ is a synonym for test which is a build-in version of /bin/test, so try 'man test' for the syntax of

Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread Earl A Ramirez
On Fri, 2015-02-13 at 18:27 -0800, PatrickD Garvey wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On 02/13/2015 05:41 AM, James Hogarth wrote: This is also why the Orange Book and its Rainbow kin exist (Orange Book = 5200.28-STD, aka DoD Trusted Computer System

Re: [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread PatrickD Garvey
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:12 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On 02/13/2015 05:41 AM, James Hogarth wrote: This is also why the Orange Book and its Rainbow kin exist (Orange Book = 5200.28-STD, aka DoD Trusted Computer System Evaluation Criteria). Should anyone care to learn from the

Re: [CentOS-docs] [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread Ned Slider
On 12/02/15 20:03, Warren Young wrote: Hi, just a quick note to whoever is maintaining this page: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH The procedure is missing the firewall-cmd calls necessary in EL7: firewall-cmd --add-port 2345/tcp firewall-cmd --add-port 2345/tcp

Re: [CentOS-es] Bug horrible en CentOS 7 Desktop

2015-02-13 Thread Aldo Rivadeneira
El error te lo manda gnome-shell, y si por lo visto es un bug reportado en fedora 19 mismo comportamiento y esto debido a un consumo alto de recursos, de igual manera la recomendacion es deshabilitar las extensiones. Lo que podrias intentar no se si exista en la version de gnome 3.x es entrar

Re: [CentOS-virt] docker 1.5 in virt7-testing

2015-02-13 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 13/02/15 19:18, Lokesh Mandvekar wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:15:39PM +, Karanbir Singh wrote: hi guys, docker 1.5 is now in virt7-testing repos, please test and feedback so we can move to release.. thanks lokesh! - KB Sure thing KB. Also, docker-registry will be ready for

Re: [CentOS-virt] docker 1.5 in virt7-testing

2015-02-13 Thread Lokesh Mandvekar
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:15:39PM +, Karanbir Singh wrote: hi guys, docker 1.5 is now in virt7-testing repos, please test and feedback so we can move to release.. thanks lokesh! - KB Sure thing KB. Also, docker-registry will be ready for release by tonight (meaning working

Re: [CentOS-es] Bug horrible en CentOS 7 Desktop

2015-02-13 Thread Alex ( Servtelecom )
Gracias por tu respuesta esperare a la 7.1 a ver si lo solucionan sino me rendiré y abandonare CentOS como desktop yo hago alt+f2+r y puedo estar 1h más trabajando pero no es plan Gracias por tus comentarios

Re: [CentOS-docs] [CentOS] Securing SSH wiki article outdated

2015-02-13 Thread Christoph Galuschka
Hi, Am 13.02.2015 um 09:48 schrieb Ned Slider: On 12/02/15 20:03, Warren Young wrote: Hi, just a quick note to whoever is maintaining this page: http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Network/SecuringSSH The procedure is missing the firewall-cmd calls necessary in EL7: firewall-cmd

[CentOS-es] Error al momento de navegar en CENTOS 7

2015-02-13 Thread Robin Guadalupe Goñas
Hola estoy configurando mi servidor en centos 7 y ya configure todo los parametro de mi red pero no puedo navegar, pero si puedo hacer ping al 8.8.8.8 pero cuando hago ping www.google.es unknown host www.google.es ---Robin Guadalupe GoñasAsistente

[CentOS-docs] Where is the official doc for CentOS 7

2015-02-13 Thread Peng Yu
Hi, I don't see the official doc for CentOS 7. Does anybody know where is it? Thanks. https://www.centos.org/docs/ -- Regards, Peng ___ CentOS-docs mailing list CentOS-docs@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-docs