Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 02/11/2018 à 21:19, mark a écrit : > Odd, I've never had that problem. On the other hand, I *really* dislike > gnome. I think their target is 16 yr olds. My reaction to GNOME 3 has been roughly the same as with systemd. At first, I hated it with a passion. Then I saw everyone else seemed to

[CentOS] inquiry about limitation of file system

2018-11-03 Thread yf chu
I have a website with millions of pages. We often deploy our websites on centos with Nginx and Apache Http Server as HTTP Web Server. I am very worried about the performance of web server if the amount of pages is very very large. I wonder whether the performance will be affected if there are

Re: [CentOS] inquiry about limitation of file system

2018-11-03 Thread Walter H.
On 03.11.2018 08:44, yf chu wrote: I have a website with millions of pages. does 'millions of pages' also mean 'millions of files on the file system'? just a hint - has nothing to do with any file system as its universal: e.g. when you have 1 files don't store them in one folder, create

Re: [CentOS] inquiry about limitation of file system

2018-11-03 Thread yf chu
Thank you for your hint. I really mean I am planning to store millions of files on the file system. Then may I ask that what is the maximum number of files which could be stored in one directory without affecting the performance of web server? At 2018-11-03 16:03:56, "Walter H." wrote:

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Lachlan Musicman
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 20:18, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 03/11/2018 à 10:10, Lachlan Musicman a écrit : > > For me, the saddest thing about this announcement is that I *still* think > > Amarok is the best media player available, even if I've not used it for a > > while. Installing the entire KDE

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Alice Wonder
On 11/03/2018 01:22 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Le 02/11/2018 à 21:19, mark a écrit : Odd, I've never had that problem. On the other hand, I *really* dislike gnome. I think their target is 16 yr olds. My reaction to GNOME 3 has been roughly the same as with systemd. At first, I hated it with a

Re: [CentOS] inquiry about limitation of file system

2018-11-03 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Nov 3, 2018, at 04:16, yf chu wrote: > > Thank you for your hint. > I really mean I am planning to store millions of files on the file system. > Then may I ask that what is the maximum number of files which could be stored > in one directory without affecting the performance of web server?

Re: [CentOS] reading old dump backups from 2009

2018-11-03 Thread Nataraj
On 11/3/18 3:26 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: restore tvf u1_l0_04-29-09_md1.dump Verify tape and initialize maps Input is from a local file/pipe Checksum error 2030402, inode 0 file (null) restore: Tape is not a dump tape what does 'file' think the file is - i.e. what does file

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sat, 2018-11-03 at 10:44 +0100, Walter H. wrote: > On 02.11.2018 21:02, Frank Cox wrote: > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ > > > > That's still several years in the future, of course. > > > > But it's interesting nonetheless. > by reading between the lines this

Re: [CentOS] reading old dump backups from 2009

2018-11-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 06:27, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > restore tvf u1_l0_04-29-09_md1.dump Verify tape and initialize maps > > Input is from a local file/pipe > > Checksum error 2030402, inode 0 file (null) > > restore: Tape is not a dump tape > > what does 'file' think the file is - i.e.

Re: [CentOS] reading old dump backups from 2009

2018-11-03 Thread Pete Biggs
> > restore tvf u1_l0_04-29-09_md1.dump Verify tape and initialize maps > Input is from a local file/pipe > Checksum error 2030402, inode 0 file (null) > restore: Tape is not a dump tape what does 'file' think the file is - i.e. what does file u1_l0_04-29-09_md1.dump say? > > >

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 03/11/2018 à 10:10, Lachlan Musicman a écrit : > For me, the saddest thing about this announcement is that I *still* think > Amarok is the best media player available, even if I've not used it for a > while. Installing the entire KDE base for one program is just too heavy. It > really is

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Walter H.
On 02.11.2018 21:02, Frank Cox wrote: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ That's still several years in the future, of course. But it's interesting nonetheless. by reading between the lines this could mean, that RHEL 7 (CentOS 7 and other forks of RHEL) is the last

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Kay Schenk
On 11/03/2018 06:41 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: On 11/03/2018 01:22 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Le 02/11/2018 à 21:19, mark a écrit : Odd, I've never had that problem. On the other hand, I *really* dislike gnome. I think their target is 16 yr olds. My reaction to GNOME 3 has been roughly the same

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 03/11/2018 à 10:27, Lachlan Musicman a écrit : > Ah yes. I can see that. I said media player, but I only use it for music. > And I used it very heavily - 10-12 hours a day, often with non Linux users > controlling it. It's interface was very smart and intuitive for non linux > users. Well,

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
On 03/11/18 02:31, Robert Heller wrote: > Yeah, there are very few of us that completely skipped > MS-DOS/MS-Windows/MacOS-Clasic and *never* used a graphical file manager or > any of the eye-candy that people now believe is "standard" or "normal". I > went from VMS on a VT to a VAXStation

Re: [CentOS] inquiry about limitation of file system

2018-11-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 04:17, yf chu wrote: > > Thank you for your hint. > I really mean I am planning to store millions of files on the file system. > Then may I ask that what is the maximum number of files which could be stored > in one directory without affecting the performance of web

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 02/11/2018 à 21:35, Robert Heller a écrit : > I one of the few (?) people who use "none of the above" (meaning all of the > "modern" desktop managers). I use fvwm in MWM mode and have a Tcl/Tk coded > "menu manager" program. My screen looks almost like a 1980s vintage > VaxStation 3000

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Lachlan Musicman
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 19:22, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > My reaction to GNOME 3 has been roughly the same as with systemd. At > first, I hated it with a passion. Then I saw everyone else seemed to use > it. So I started to read the docs and experiment a little bit. And now > I'm using it on a daily

Re: [CentOS] reading old dump backups from 2009

2018-11-03 Thread Jonathan Billings
> On Nov 3, 2018, at 06:26, Pete Biggs wrote: > I don't think dump has changed anything in 20 years or so! And I > certainly can't see it changing such that it can't read old files - > that is, sort of, it's raison d'etre. A bit off topic but... Funny story, at a previous job, my boss was able

Re: [CentOS] inquiry about limitation of file system

2018-11-03 Thread Keith Keller
On 2018-11-03, Jonathan Billings wrote: > > Now, filesystem limits aside, software that try to read those directories > with huge numbers of files are going to have performance issues. I/O > operations, memory limitations and time are going to be bottlenecks to web > operations. Just to be

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
On 03/11/18 22:49, Robert Heller wrote: > At Sat, 3 Nov 2018 14:38:03 + J Martin Rushton > , CentOS mailing list > wrote: > >> >> >> From: J Martin Rushton >> To: centos@centos.org >> Message-ID: <8a7a2aea-33da-9f3c-00a1-c6471fa02...@btinternet.com> >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is

[CentOS] fingerprint reader on C-7 ???

2018-11-03 Thread Fred Smith
Hi all! I just got a new (to me) used laptop (HP EliteBook 8530p) and find that it has a fingerprint reader. Wondering if it could be made to work for me (Centos-7) I did a lot of googling (well, actually duck-duck-go-ing) and found a ton of hits on either setting it up in Windoze, or others

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 3 Nov 2018 14:38:03 + J Martin Rushton , CentOS mailing list wrote: > > > From: J Martin Rushton > To: centos@centos.org > Message-ID: <8a7a2aea-33da-9f3c-00a1-c6471fa02...@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024 >

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 3:19 AM Pete Biggs wrote: > >"A future major release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux will no longer >support using KDE instead of the default GNOME desktop environment." > > The next major release is RHEL 8 - it won't support KDE. It doesn't > mean KDE won't run on it,

Re: [CentOS] inquiry about limitation of file system

2018-11-03 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 4 Nov 2018 06:37:53 +0800 (CST) yf chu wrote: > Thank you for your advice. I know the issue depends on a lot of factors. > Would you please give me some detail information about how to tune these > parameters such as the size of cache,the type of cpu? I am not quite familiar > with these

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
> Am 03.11.2018 um 23:19 schrieb Keith Keller > : > > On 2018-11-03, Robert Arkiletian wrote: >> >> To me "not supported" means the KDE packages (and all dependency libs) >> will not be in the official repos. So have fun trying to build all >> that yourself. Most likely there will be a third

Re: [CentOS] inquiry about limitation of file system

2018-11-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/3/18 12:44 AM, yf chu wrote: I wonder whether the performance will be affected if there are too many files and directories on the server. With XFS on modern CentOS systems, you probably don't need to worry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FegjLbCnoBw For older systems, as best I

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Nataraj
On 11/3/18 6:41 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: On 11/03/2018 01:22 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Le 02/11/2018 à 21:19, mark a écrit : Odd, I've never had that problem. On the other hand, I *really* dislike gnome. I think their target is 16 yr olds. My reaction to GNOME 3 has been roughly the same as

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:03 PM Frank Cox wrote: > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ > > That's still several years in the future, of course. > > I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and I'm sure > many of you fine folks do the same. > > But it's

[CentOS] XPS 13 9370 / CentOS compat

2018-11-03 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Anyone with some Dell laptop XPS 13 9370 (2018) experience here? Especially with that "Killer 1435 (802.11ac 2x2 und Bluetooth)" device? Supported by the stock kernel (EL7)? -- Thanks, LF ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] fingerprint reader on C-7 ???

2018-11-03 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sat, November 3, 2018 12:48 pm, Fred Smith wrote: > Hi all! > > I just got a new (to me) used laptop (HP EliteBook 8530p) and find that > it has a fingerprint reader. > > Wondering if it could be made to work for me (Centos-7) I did a lot > of googling (well, actually duck-duck-go-ing) You

Re: [CentOS] inquiry about limitation of file system

2018-11-03 Thread yf chu
Thank you for your advice. I know the issue depends on a lot of factors. Would you please give me some detail information about how to tune these parameters such as the size of cache,the type of cpu? I am not quite familiar with these detail. At 2018-11-03 22:39:55, "Stephen John

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Keith Keller
On 2018-11-03, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > To me "not supported" means the KDE packages (and all dependency libs) > will not be in the official repos. So have fun trying to build all > that yourself. Most likely there will be a third party unofficial repo > that will have those KDE packages. Or

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Keith Keller
On 2018-11-02, Robert Heller wrote: > > I one of the few (?) people who use "none of the above" (meaning all of the > "modern" desktop managers). I use fvwm in MWM mode and have a Tcl/Tk coded > "menu manager" program. Ah, one of these subthreads. ;-) I use fluxbox on my main linux desktop.