Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-10 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 7:36 PM Frank Cox wrote: > > Hi, based on the multitude of answers and options received, you can also > > consider the magnificent old days CDE, now open sourced. > > CDE can actually be installed on Centos 7 through yum: > >

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-10 Thread Frank Cox
> Hi, based on the multitude of answers and options received, you can also > consider the magnificent old days CDE, now open sourced. CDE can actually be installed on Centos 7 through yum: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/dcantrel/cde/ Just install the repo file and "yum install cde"

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-10 Thread Gregory P. Ennis
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:03 PM Frank Cox wrote: > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ > > That's still several years in the future, of course. > > I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and I'm sure > many of you fine folks do the same. > > But

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-04 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-11-03, Alice Wonder wrote: > What really did me in when I was trying to like it, the scroll bars > were gone and I was told they could be put back in place with > configuration. So I tried to find the configuration option and > couldn't find it. Then I was told that I had to hand-code

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-04 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2018-11-02, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 11/2/18 3:02 PM, Frank Cox wrote: >> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ >> >> That's still several years in the future, of course. >> >> I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and I'm >> sure many of you

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
> Am 03.11.2018 um 23:19 schrieb Keith Keller > : > > On 2018-11-03, Robert Arkiletian wrote: >> >> To me "not supported" means the KDE packages (and all dependency libs) >> will not be in the official repos. So have fun trying to build all >> that yourself. Most likely there will be a third

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
On 03/11/18 22:49, Robert Heller wrote: > At Sat, 3 Nov 2018 14:38:03 + J Martin Rushton > , CentOS mailing list > wrote: > >> >> >> From: J Martin Rushton >> To: centos@centos.org >> Message-ID: <8a7a2aea-33da-9f3c-00a1-c6471fa02...@btinternet.com> >> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Keith Keller
On 2018-11-02, Robert Heller wrote: > > I one of the few (?) people who use "none of the above" (meaning all of the > "modern" desktop managers). I use fvwm in MWM mode and have a Tcl/Tk coded > "menu manager" program. Ah, one of these subthreads. ;-) I use fluxbox on my main linux desktop.

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Keith Keller
On 2018-11-03, Robert Arkiletian wrote: > > To me "not supported" means the KDE packages (and all dependency libs) > will not be in the official repos. So have fun trying to build all > that yourself. Most likely there will be a third party unofficial repo > that will have those KDE packages. Or

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Robert Heller
At Sat, 3 Nov 2018 14:38:03 + J Martin Rushton , CentOS mailing list wrote: > > > From: J Martin Rushton > To: centos@centos.org > Message-ID: <8a7a2aea-33da-9f3c-00a1-c6471fa02...@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024 >

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Robert Arkiletian
On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 3:19 AM Pete Biggs wrote: > >"A future major release of Red Hat Enterprise Linux will no longer >support using KDE instead of the default GNOME desktop environment." > > The next major release is RHEL 8 - it won't support KDE. It doesn't > mean KDE won't run on it,

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:03 PM Frank Cox wrote: > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ > > That's still several years in the future, of course. > > I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and I'm sure > many of you fine folks do the same. > > But it's

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Nataraj
On 11/3/18 6:41 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: On 11/03/2018 01:22 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Le 02/11/2018 à 21:19, mark a écrit : Odd, I've never had that problem. On the other hand, I *really* dislike gnome. I think their target is 16 yr olds. My reaction to GNOME 3 has been roughly the same as

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Kay Schenk
On 11/03/2018 06:41 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: On 11/03/2018 01:22 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Le 02/11/2018 à 21:19, mark a écrit : Odd, I've never had that problem. On the other hand, I *really* dislike gnome. I think their target is 16 yr olds. My reaction to GNOME 3 has been roughly the same

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread J Martin Rushton via CentOS
On 03/11/18 02:31, Robert Heller wrote: > Yeah, there are very few of us that completely skipped > MS-DOS/MS-Windows/MacOS-Clasic and *never* used a graphical file manager or > any of the eye-candy that people now believe is "standard" or "normal". I > went from VMS on a VT to a VAXStation

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Alice Wonder
On 11/03/2018 01:22 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Le 02/11/2018 à 21:19, mark a écrit : Odd, I've never had that problem. On the other hand, I *really* dislike gnome. I think their target is 16 yr olds. My reaction to GNOME 3 has been roughly the same as with systemd. At first, I hated it with a

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 03/11/2018 à 10:27, Lachlan Musicman a écrit : > Ah yes. I can see that. I said media player, but I only use it for music. > And I used it very heavily - 10-12 hours a day, often with non Linux users > controlling it. It's interface was very smart and intuitive for non linux > users. Well,

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Pete Biggs
On Sat, 2018-11-03 at 10:44 +0100, Walter H. wrote: > On 02.11.2018 21:02, Frank Cox wrote: > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ > > > > That's still several years in the future, of course. > > > > But it's interesting nonetheless. > by reading between the lines this

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Walter H.
On 02.11.2018 21:02, Frank Cox wrote: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ That's still several years in the future, of course. But it's interesting nonetheless. by reading between the lines this could mean, that RHEL 7 (CentOS 7 and other forks of RHEL) is the last

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Lachlan Musicman
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 20:18, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 03/11/2018 à 10:10, Lachlan Musicman a écrit : > > For me, the saddest thing about this announcement is that I *still* think > > Amarok is the best media player available, even if I've not used it for a > > while. Installing the entire KDE

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 03/11/2018 à 10:10, Lachlan Musicman a écrit : > For me, the saddest thing about this announcement is that I *still* think > Amarok is the best media player available, even if I've not used it for a > while. Installing the entire KDE base for one program is just too heavy. It > really is

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Lachlan Musicman
On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 19:22, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > My reaction to GNOME 3 has been roughly the same as with systemd. At > first, I hated it with a passion. Then I saw everyone else seemed to use > it. So I started to read the docs and experiment a little bit. And now > I'm using it on a daily

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 02/11/2018 à 21:35, Robert Heller a écrit : > I one of the few (?) people who use "none of the above" (meaning all of the > "modern" desktop managers). I use fvwm in MWM mode and have a Tcl/Tk coded > "menu manager" program. My screen looks almost like a 1980s vintage > VaxStation 3000

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-03 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 02/11/2018 à 21:19, mark a écrit : > Odd, I've never had that problem. On the other hand, I *really* dislike > gnome. I think their target is 16 yr olds. My reaction to GNOME 3 has been roughly the same as with systemd. At first, I hated it with a passion. Then I saw everyone else seemed to

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-02 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 11/02/18 16:02, Frank Cox wrote: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ That's still several years in the future, of course. I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and I'm sure many of you fine folks do the same. But it's interesting nonetheless.

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-02 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 2 Nov 2018 15:58:06 -0500 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > > > On 11/2/18 3:35 PM, Robert Heller wrote: > > At Fri, 2 Nov 2018 14:02:56 -0600 CentOS mailing list > > wrote: > > > >> > >> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ > >> > >> That's still several

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-02 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
I also use Mate, but I find some of the KDE applications useful. I hope it will still be possible to install them. -- Yves Bellefeuille ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-02 Thread SternData
On 11/2/18 3:19 PM, mark wrote: > Leroy Tennison wrote: >> I use KDE and they need to, quality is lacking, every time I boot up I >> get to discover where my icons will be located (and this has been going >> on through at least a couple of recvisions). Locking doesn't help, even >> making the

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-02 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 11/2/18 3:35 PM, Robert Heller wrote: At Fri, 2 Nov 2018 14:02:56 -0600 CentOS mailing list wrote: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ That's still several years in the future, of course. I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and I'm sure

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-02 Thread Jos Vos
On Fri, Nov 02, 2018 at 04:35:40PM -0400, Robert Heller wrote: > I one of the few (?) people who use "none of the above" (meaning all of the > "modern" desktop managers). I use fvwm in MWM mode and have a Tcl/Tk coded > "menu manager" program. My screen looks almost like a 1980s vintage >

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-02 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On 11/2/18 3:02 PM, Frank Cox wrote: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ That's still several years in the future, of course. I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and I'm sure many of you fine folks do the same. It probably is just us, older

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-02 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 2 Nov 2018 14:02:56 -0600 CentOS mailing list wrote: > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ > > That's still several years in the future, of course. > > I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and I'm sure > many of you fine folks do the

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-02 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 11/2/18 4:02 PM, Frank Cox wrote: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/ That's still several years in the future, of course. I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and I'm sure many of you fine folks do the same. But it's interesting

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-02 Thread Leroy Tennison
Interesting, I'm going to have to try something based on your comment, although I've been through a few distro releases /home has remained the same. Leroy Tennison Network Information/Cyber Security Specialist E: le...@datavoiceint.com 2220 Bush Dr McKinney, Texas 75070 www.datavoiceint.com

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-02 Thread mark
Leroy Tennison wrote: > I use KDE and they need to, quality is lacking, every time I boot up I > get to discover where my icons will be located (and this has been going > on through at least a couple of recvisions). Locking doesn't help, even > making the file I thought contained the positions

Re: [CentOS] Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

2018-11-02 Thread Rainer Duffner
> Am 02.11.2018 um 21:02 schrieb Frank Cox : > > But it's interesting nonetheless. AFAIK, Gnome was favored vs. KDE because of some accessibility issues. Yet, I once read a review that claimed that even though Gnome was the „official“ desktop of RHEL, their KDE implementation was more