Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-20 Thread Giorgio Bersano
2012/12/19 Theo Band :
> On 12/19/2012 08:34 PM, Frank Cox wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:26:58 +0100 Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:
>>> Theo: I suggest disabling all repos except os+updates and trying again.
>> He could go to that mirror with a web browser and see if the package
>> actually exists there.
>
> I have two installations. One that works, and one that does not, so I
> can compare. I want to point to a known good mirror, but haven't figured
> out how to do that. I can probably just download the make rpm and
> install it with rpm. But that feels like cheating :-). And only one
> package seems to not exist. How does yum "remember" that? Is it perhaps
> a rpm database thing?
>

Just as a side note: when installing downloaded files (e.g.
make-3.81-20.el6.x86_64.rpm) better using yum then rpm, as in
 # yum install make-3.81-20.el6.x86_64.rpm
otherwise after that install you will always get warnings about RPMDB
altered outside of yum.

Regarding your specific problem, as already suggested I'd start with
 # yum clean all
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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-20 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
 wrote:
> m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>>
>> If you're going to use priorities, I'd make the CentOS mirrors highest,
>> then work my way down, with epel being *above* repoforge, since the latter
>> contains packages that conflict with some of the standard CentOS base
>> packages.
>
> this hasn't been true for more than two years, since the split between
> repoforge-extras (which contains packages that replace base packages)
> and repoforge (which doesn't).

... and the former (-extras) is installed 'disabled' by default.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
>>
> If you're going to use priorities, I'd make the CentOS mirrors highest,
> then work my way down, with epel being *above* repoforge, since the latter
> contains packages that conflict with some of the standard CentOS base
> packages.

this hasn't been true for more than two years, since the split between 
repoforge-extras (which contains packages that replace base packages) 
and repoforge (which doesn't).
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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Theo Band  wrote:
>
> I have two installations. One that works, and one that does not, so I
> can compare. I want to point to a known good mirror, but haven't figured
> out how to do that. I can probably just download the make rpm and
> install it with rpm. But that feels like cheating :-). And only one
> package seems to not exist. How does yum "remember" that? Is it perhaps
> a rpm database thing?

I usually try a 'yum clean all' first as a brute-force approach to
anything that isn't working.   It will clear all the cached stuff,
including the preferred mirror (although it may pick the same one
again with the fastestmirror test).

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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread Theo Band
On 12/19/2012 08:34 PM, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:26:58 +0100 Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:
>> Theo: I suggest disabling all repos except os+updates and trying again. 
> He could go to that mirror with a web browser and see if the package 
> actually exists there. 

I have two installations. One that works, and one that does not, so I 
can compare. I want to point to a known good mirror, but haven't figured 
out how to do that. I can probably just download the make rpm and 
install it with rpm. But that feels like cheating :-). And only one 
package seems to not exist. How does yum "remember" that? Is it perhaps 
a rpm database thing?

I tried something else, reinstall yum:
# yum reinstall yum
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit, security
Setting up Reinstall Process
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * base: mirrors.supportex.net
  * extras: mirrors.supportex.net
  * updates: mirrors.supportex.net
base | 3.7 kB 00:00
extras | 3.5 kB 00:00
updates | 3.5 kB 00:00
Installed package yum-3.2.29-30.el6.centos.noarch (from 
anaconda-CentOS-201207061011.x86_64) not available.
Nothing to do

The other machine works fine:
# yum reinstall yum
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit, security
Setting up Reinstall Process
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
epel/metalink |  15 kB 00:00
  * base: nl.mirror.eurid.eu
  * epel: mirror.nl.leaseweb.net
  * extras: nl.mirror.eurid.eu
  * updates: nl.mirror.eurid.eu
base | 3.7 kB 00:00
epel | 4.3 kB 00:00
epel/primary_db | 4.9 MB 00:02
extras | 3.5 kB 00:00
updates | 3.5 kB 00:00
updates/primary_db | 4.6 MB 00:01
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package yum.noarch 0:3.2.29-30.el6.centos will be reinstalled
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

==
  Package Arch Version
RepositorySize
==
Reinstalling:
  yum noarch 3.2.29-30.el6.centos   
base 990 k

Transaction Summary
==
Reinstall 1 Package(s)

Total download size: 990 k
Installed size: 4.5 M
Is this ok [y/N]: n
Exiting on user Command


What is special with this install is that I used PXE init disk to boot 
the installation disk (I added an entry to an existing boot loader and 
placed the initial ramdisk and vmlinux in /boot). Could the initial 
installation source be the reason?


# yum install make
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit, security
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * base: mirrors.supportex.net
  * epel: mirror.nl.leaseweb.net
  * extras: mirrors.supportex.net
  * updates: mirrors.supportex.net
Setting up Install Process
No package make available.

So this is the mirror for base:
http://mirrors.supportex.net/centos/6/os/x86_64/Packages/
http://mirrors.supportex.net/centos/6/os/x86_64/Packages/make-3.81-20.el6.x86_64.rpm

The mirror looks fine to me.

# yum provides /usr/bin/make
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit, security
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
  * base: mirrors.supportex.net
  * epel: mirror.nl.leaseweb.net
  * extras: mirrors.supportex.net
  * updates: mirrors.supportex.net
No Matches found

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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread m . roth
Marcin Lage wrote:
> I'm not sure, but maybe you have to set priorities among their
> repositories. I
> have also configured repositories "rpmforge" and "EPEL" on my system, and
> to
> avoid conflicts between packages from these repositories with packages
> from
> default repositories, I install the "plugin priorities" - yum install yum
> -priorities.
> Then configure the files of repositories:
> [rpmforge.repo] - priority = 1
> [epel.repo] - priority = 2
>
> Perhaps this lack of precedence between repositories, please discard the
> search for yum package within the repository @ Base.Or you can try
> disabling repositories: EPEL and rpmforge.
>
If you're going to use priorities, I'd make the CentOS mirrors highest,
then work my way down, with epel being *above* repoforge, since the latter
contains packages that conflict with some of the standard CentOS base
packages.

> I'm sorry, my english is bad.

Better than some folks.

   mark
>
> 2012/12/19 John R Pierce 
>
>> On 12/19/2012 11:25 AM, Marcin Lage wrote:
>> > *make.x86_64 1:3.81-20.el6
>> > @base*
>>
>>
>> h, man, gotta stop posting before coffee.   I was thinking 'base
>> install', not 'base repository'.
>>
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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread Marcin Lage
**yum-plugin-priorities**

2012/12/19 Marcin Lage 

> I'm not sure, but maybe you have to set priorities among their
> repositories. I have also configured repositories "rpmforge" and "EPEL" on
> my system, and to avoid conflicts between packages from these repositories
> with packages from default repositories, I install the "plugin priorities"
> - yum install yum-priorities.
> Then configure the files of repositories:
> [rpmforge.repo] - priority = 1
> [epel.repo] - priority = 2
>
> Perhaps this lack of precedence between repositories, please discard the
> search for yum package within the repository @ Base.Or you can try
> disabling repositories: EPEL and rpmforge.
>
> I'm sorry, my english is bad.
>
> 2012/12/19 John R Pierce 
>
>> On 12/19/2012 11:25 AM, Marcin Lage wrote:
>> > *make.x86_64 1:3.81-20.el6
>> > @base*
>>
>>
>> h, man, gotta stop posting before coffee.   I was thinking 'base
>> install', not 'base repository'.
>>
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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread Marcin Lage
I'm not sure, but maybe you have to set priorities among their repositories. I
have also configured repositories "rpmforge" and "EPEL" on my system, and to
avoid conflicts between packages from these repositories with packages from
default repositories, I install the "plugin priorities" - yum install yum
-priorities.
Then configure the files of repositories:
[rpmforge.repo] - priority = 1
[epel.repo] - priority = 2

Perhaps this lack of precedence between repositories, please discard the
search for yum package within the repository @ Base.Or you can try disabling
repositories: EPEL and rpmforge.

I'm sorry, my english is bad.

2012/12/19 John R Pierce 

> On 12/19/2012 11:25 AM, Marcin Lage wrote:
> > *make.x86_64 1:3.81-20.el6
> > @base*
>
>
> h, man, gotta stop posting before coffee.   I was thinking 'base
> install', not 'base repository'.
>
>
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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/19/2012 11:25 AM, Marcin Lage wrote:
> *make.x86_64 1:3.81-20.el6
> @base*


h, man, gotta stop posting before coffee.   I was thinking 'base 
install', not 'base repository'.


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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 20:26:58 +0100
Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote:

> Theo: I suggest disabling all repos except os+updates and trying again. 

He could go to that mirror with a web browser and see if the package actually
exists there.

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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:25:59 -0200
Marcin Lage wrote:

> $ sudo yum list make

You don't need "sudo" to do that.

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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
John R Pierce wrote:
> On 12/19/2012 9:35 AM, Theo Band wrote:
>> I try to install make (should be present in base)...
>
> no, it shouldn't.
>
> A) its not in RHEL base, therefore its not in CentOS base.
>
> B) Base contains NO development tools, is intended for deploying RPM
> packaged software only.
>
>
> if you need make, odds are, you'll also need more development tools
> (gcc, etc etc), I'd suggest ...
>
>   yum groupinstall "Development Tools"

agreed, but that doesn't explain why "yum install make" doesn't work for 
him. It should work, no matter what is installed when he issues that 
command (though it may have to pull in many deps).
OP must have a misconfiguration somewhere, or otherwise his mirror is bad.
Theo: I suggest disabling all repos except os+updates and trying again. 
And the usual "yum clean all" but I think you already did that?
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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread Marcin Lage
$ sudo yum list make
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, priorities, refresh-packagekit, security
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * base: mirror.beyondhosting.net
 * centosplus: mirror.ueg.br
 * elrepo: jur-linux.org
 * epel: mirrors.dmacc.net
 * extras: mirror.ueg.br
 * remi: remirpm.mirror.gymkl.ch
 * rpmforge: www.mirrorservice.org
 * updates: mirrors-pa.sioru.com
1400 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Installed Packages
*make.x86_64 1:3.81-20.el6
@base*

2012/12/19 John R Pierce 

> On 12/19/2012 9:35 AM, Theo Band wrote:
> > I try to install make (should be present in base)...
>
> no, it shouldn't.
>
> A) its not in RHEL base, therefore its not in CentOS base.
>
> B) Base contains NO development tools, is intended for deploying RPM
> packaged software only.
>
>
> if you need make, odds are, you'll also need more development tools
> (gcc, etc etc), I'd suggest ...
>
>  yum groupinstall "Development Tools"
>
>
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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/19/2012 9:35 AM, Theo Band wrote:
> I try to install make (should be present in base)...

no, it shouldn't.

A) its not in RHEL base, therefore its not in CentOS base.

B) Base contains NO development tools, is intended for deploying RPM 
packaged software only.


if you need make, odds are, you'll also need more development tools 
(gcc, etc etc), I'd suggest ...

 yum groupinstall "Development Tools"


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Re: [CentOS] yum install make does not work

2012-12-19 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Theo Band  wrote:
> I try to install make (should be present in base):
>
> yum install make
> Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, refresh-packagekit, security
> Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
>   * base: mirrors.supportex.net
>   * epel: mirror.nl.leaseweb.net
>   * extras: mirrors.supportex.net
>   * rpmforge: archive.cs.uu.nl
>   * updates: mirrors.supportex.net
> Setting up Install Process
> No package make available.
> Error: Nothing to do

Does 'yum search make' show the make package?   What about 'yum info make'?

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